Best non-hormonal supplement to maintain muscle on a cut?
- 05-21-2009, 04:40 PM
- 05-21-2009, 04:54 PM
Well if you're looking to maintain muscle mass, then augmenting these two anabolic hormones, testosterone and growth hormone are pretty paramount in maintaining muscle mass.
If I was to pick one non-hormonal product to do that, then my money's on IGF-2 by Applied Nutriceuticals.
I'm running IGF-2 right now on my cut (link in my signature of you want to check it out), it's a natural growth hormone and testosterone booster.
Not only is it proving really effective so far for maintaining and improving my strength, aggression and body composition...it gives a nice libido boost and makes me sleep like a baby!
Here's a link to the write-up in the Applied Nutriceuticals Forum:
IGF-2 Frequently Asked Questions
and the product on Nutraplanet:
IGF-2 @ Nutraplanet
- 05-21-2009, 05:18 PM
any other suggestions? Some people said X-factor
05-21-2009, 05:23 PM
05-21-2009, 05:26 PM
Doesn't arachidonic acid promote fat storage? It's active metabolite is lipolytic for sure, but from point A to point B, there's a lot of stops.
I feel as a rep, my opinion is going to be totally biased, but from personal experience, Hyperdrol always seems to do the trick for me. The anti-estrogenic effects help to dry you out, and the increased cAMP via the diterpene complex, facilitates the utilization of fat tissue for energy rather than muscle tissue.
05-21-2009, 05:28 PM
05-21-2009, 05:28 PM
05-21-2009, 06:26 PM
Would any of these supplements not work as well on a keto diet? (no carbs)
05-21-2009, 08:07 PM
If you are on a keto diet, insulin mimickers are the enemy.
Things like anabolic pump, glycobol, neovar, etc. These would not be wise to take if not consuming carbs. They will drop your blood sugar too low, and life will suck. Although, they can be great on refeed days.
05-22-2009, 02:26 AM
05-22-2009, 10:11 AM
05-22-2009, 10:14 AM
05-22-2009, 10:22 AM
just drink some BCAA's. they're cheap and very effective. i've liked glycobol a lot so far too. just buy some bulk BCAA's and mix it in crystal light or AI has a product coming out with a 4:1:1 ratio that's going to be pretty cheap
05-22-2009, 10:31 AM
I do have to say though, I'm loving Glycobol. I have tons of energy in the gym and am much fuller than usual on my cuts. I don't have that exhausted feeling on later reps in sets, I can keep pushing through.
05-22-2009, 01:29 PM
What brand of Bulk BCAAs would you guys recommend?
05-22-2009, 01:31 PM
05-22-2009, 01:33 PM
doesn't ephedrine have anti catabolic properties? not to the strength of something like clen but similar?
05-22-2009, 01:36 PM
The supplements I love on a cut are:
1. Xtend/BCAA-these are an absolute must for me
2. Test Booster-There are several I like: AcX and IGF-2 are at the top for me
3. R-ALA/Banaba-when timed correctly, these help to keep glucose stable and increase glycogen storage
M.Ed. Ex Phys
05-22-2009, 02:29 PM
05-22-2009, 02:31 PM
05-22-2009, 04:07 PM
Ive been cutting for a few weeks, and I haven't worried about insulin and all that...just have a nice strict diet and you'll be fine, IMO. Its all about discipline, but do what you want
05-22-2009, 05:27 PM
05-22-2009, 05:38 PM
05-22-2009, 08:21 PM
05-22-2009, 08:40 PM
05-23-2009, 07:24 AM
I am using Prime, AP and pslin on a cut/recomp with a macro cylcle and have lost about significant fat and gained a bit of mass. This is no unprecedented a lot of people can do it with the right diet and supps. Diet first though. The better you know your own body and how it reacts without supplementation the better you can plan your protocol. A lot ... and I mean a lot depends on body type also. You have to gear your diet towards who you are genetically. It's hard work and you have to keep learning as time goes on, constantly improving.
Mind and Muscle Board Representative I am not a physician and any advice is solely based on personal experience with various products
06-02-2009, 03:29 PM
ALCAR 3-5 grams per day
Forskolin 60-80 mg/day
Cissus 40% or higher 1 gram per day
Arachdonic Acid- 1.2 grams per day
Icariin 40% or higher 500 mg per day or higher
Osthole 35% or higher 300 mg per day or higher
P-5-P- good luck finding it
Vitex- 300-400 mg/day
Res-V- 500 mg/day of 50% or higher
Dirk Tanis, BA, MSci
Chief Operating Officer, Applied Nutriceuticals
06-02-2009, 03:55 PM
06-02-2009, 03:56 PM
Is P5P really so difficult to find?
I know NOW Foods makes it, which their line is pretty accessable.
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