Dude I have read enough reviews, used enough thermos and felt the effects of recreate enough to know that its a waste of money for how much it costs FOR ME...
I'm not going to let someone school me on why some USP product is worth more spending more money than a comparable stack of t3 and ephedrine
Nice attitude brah.
Too many times people mistake the "feeling" as a product actually working.
Usually this is due to the abuse of large doses of caffiene.
Difference is, recrease is a OTC supplement, the other compounds you mention are POMs and thus the majority of the time will produce greater effects, though often with potentially more severe sides.
Crossing the line from OTC to POM is taboo for many people as they have a stigma attached to them.
Its all swings and roundabouts.
As for Jack3d, take it 30-40mins before a workout, i wouldnt take it with anything else, theres a lot of substances in there that could potentially compete for Absorption when combined.