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I'm 15 and i finished a 4 week cycle of 17-phero and 5-deca-zol in late january/early febuary. I didn't take a pct and its been about a month and a half. My nipples look a little puffy and i can squeeze out a white cloudy liquid :scared: . Should i take an anti estrogen? Or is this just a puberty thing that will go away and i wont have to worry about it? PLEASE HELP
 
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I don't know what to say,.. I'm sorry for your problem there buddy, I'll pray for ya!!!
Research, better role models, IDK,.. I'm at a loss,............
 
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Why do people never learn 15 and a ph is like starting crack at age 5 (not literally) but seriousely you deserve it if your taking steroids at age 15 you obviousley did no research or you would have used a PCT and its not puberty you messed your body up. Stick to protein,creatine and FOOD Thats all you need at that age is FOOD god......
 

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am i screwed long term? or will my body balance out the test/estro levels naturally?
 
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im not an expert go into anabolic section they can maybe help you minimize damages if its possible.
 
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You'll prolly never get rid of the gyno.. without surgery..
You shouldn't have done the steroids..
At 15 I doubt you'll be able to get a SERM- which is a type of PCT which usually inhibits gyno problems.. Should have ran it immedietly after the cycle.
BUT I guess since you were able to get the roids (I hope no local store sold you that ****) I may be wrong..
Taking any hormonal supps is bad for your age; even estrogen blockers..
Goodluck with any route you choose, wait another 6 years AT LEAST before thinking about some hormonal products dude.
 

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thanks mpfit but am i screwed longterm? i was a little unpatient when i got the supps. i regret it now. i shouldve researched more.
 
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your not screwed you did it for 4 weeks your probally gonna have side effects but not to the extent if you kept doing them proper PCT would have limited those sides somewhat but thats over and done with look around get some advice you will be fine.
 

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k thanks im waiting until im 21 to do anything stupid like that again wtf im retarded im gonna stick to the protein, creatine, vitamins, fishoil, and proper diet thanks everyone
 
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lol 15 ph...this never gets old
And i bet he lives in nebraska, and got his 18 year old brother to buy it for him at Complete Nutrition (as in theory they are supposed to ask for ID)
 

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sorry to hear that...but now the only option is to get nolva (tomaxifen citrate) or some torimefene (spelling) and prays it does the job... ur most likely gonna have to come clean to ur parents and tell them u took steroids and hope they will pay to get gyno surgery...
 
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Bottom line, you need to see a doctor.! who knows what kinda damage you've done...
 

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Yes, you do need to see a doctor. And a head doctor too. For real, are you retarded?:crackhead:
 

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you can pretty much kiss maturation goodbye... why in the world would you take anything like this at your age
 
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You'll prolly never get rid of the gyno.. without surgery..
You shouldn't have done the steroids..
At 15 I doubt you'll be able to get a SERM- which is a type of PCT which usually inhibits gyno problems.. Should have ran it immedietly after the cycle.
BUT I guess since you were able to get the roids (I hope no local store sold you that ****) I may be wrong..
Taking any hormonal supps is bad for your age; even estrogen blockers..
Goodluck with any route you choose, wait another 6 years AT LEAST before thinking about some hormonal products dude.
Go to a pediatric endocrinologist. If you need a referral for a specialist (ask your parents about your health insurance.) If you don't, try to find one, or ask your doctor if he knows a good one. If you do then go to your PCP (primary care physician) and ask if he knows any good pediatric endocrinologists, and if he will give you a referal, and explain this problem.

I have gyno too man. Never had milk come out, but my chest did get really tender (sore) when I was 15. I got put on tamoxifen, and later Femara. They may help the estrogen levels, but they don't get rid of the breast tissue. If you have grown breast tissue, nothing you can do will make it go away. It is tissue, like an organ, not like a fat deposit. You can't exercise it away or anything. Surgery is the only way.

I actually started lifting partially to cover up the fact that I have gyno still. I figured if I got bigger, they wouldn't be as noticeable. And it does help, but it's still there, and it's never going away, unless I want to get surgery.

I had a BB friend of mine tell me about his surgery. He said it cost 6,500 or so, and afterward he had to wear a compression vest for a few weeks straight, then on and off for a few more weeks.

I think he was pretty pleased with the results, and wished he had gotten it sooner. (He was 24.)

I will tell you, the gyno has made my life hard. I've avoided a lot of things (swimming, taking off my shirt for - anything, getting intimade with girls) because of it. But really, it's not that big a deal. I am starting to be more okay with it now that I'm older (20 now.) and because I have actual caring friends who are understanding, and not high school friends who are dicks.

DO NOT TAKE ANOTHER SUPPLEMENT UNTIL YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR. GET BLOODWORK DONE.

That's my main advice there. Do that ASAP, and stop taking everything else you are taking. Continue to work out if you want, but just eat well and lost all the other bullshit. I think a multivitamin would be okay too. But even things like creatine i would stop taking until you get a complete blood work test, etc.

Good luck to you my friend. Don't beat yourself up about it, everyone makes mistakes. (I'm a recovering heroin addict.) Just do what you can now to mitigate any side-effects, and make sure to think things through a little better next time.

Everyone these days is too much into instant gratification. (Me included.) Instant gratification only leads to pain and suffering in the long term. (Or so buddhism has taught me.) Things that are GOOD, take time, effort, and determination. That's why work is called "work." You work a job, you get money. You do your homework, you learn. You work-out, you get stronger. etc. etc.

You take drugs, including steroids, and you will pay consequences.
 
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And i bet he lives in nebraska, and got his 18 year old brother to buy it for him at Complete Nutrition (as in theory they are supposed to ask for ID)
I'll second that bet, as I live in Nebraska and Complete Nutrition pushes 17 Phero and 5 Deca hard. I heard a commercial for it on the radio while driving back to college yesterday pushing the 5 Deca saying that you can gain 20 pounds of muscle in a month and how its the new orally dissolved PH. I'm also starting to question whether they are carding people, because when I went back to my high school over break, I found that theres 8 kids using it now. Its turning into a problem because I went to a small school (400 students K-12), and with a small locker room like that, this is only going to get worse. The worst part of it is that when I asked them what PCT they were using, they said the one that complete nutrition sells but had no idea why it was necessary. Not knowing what you are doing and using a PH before you are at least 21...I don't want to be around when one of them messes themselves up.
 
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crazy bastards. well hopefully someones mommy sues them for medical bills
 

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**** thats a big price to pay for a mistake at 15...

I see these PH's in stores now and I do wonder how many people are taking them withouth having a clue what it is doing to your body. But how the hell do you educate? The companies that make them need to make things clearer. YOU NEED A PCT!
 
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We are really not allowed to answer these questions due to the fact ur underage. If an admin oks us to help you we can try. Sorry bro

 

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I'll second that bet, as I live in Nebraska and Complete Nutrition pushes 17 Phero and 5 Deca hard. I heard a commercial for it on the radio while driving back to college yesterday pushing the 5 Deca saying that you can gain 20 pounds of muscle in a month and how its the new orally dissolved PH. I'm also starting to question whether they are carding people, because when I went back to my high school over break, I found that theres 8 kids using it now. Its turning into a problem because I went to a small school (400 students K-12), and with a small locker room like that, this is only going to get worse. The worst part of it is that when I asked them what PCT they were using, they said the one that complete nutrition sells but had no idea why it was necessary. Not knowing what you are doing and using a PH before you are at least 21...I don't want to be around when one of them messes themselves up.
For real? Companies In America actually PUSH these fukin things onto kids? (by Kid I mean under 21) that is despicable, Im really shocked to hear that. Man, when your 15 you should be runnin round trying to get your d1ck wet, not pumping potentially harmful and un needed drugs into your system. Nothing comes before the almighty dollar to alot of Supp companies....
 
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For real? Companies In America actually PUSH these fukin things onto kids? (by Kid I mean under 21) that is despicable, Im really shocked to hear that. Man, when your 15 you should be runnin round trying to get your d1ck wet, not pumping potentially harmful and un needed drugs into your system. Nothing comes before the almighty dollar to alot of Supp companies....
The supplements aren't necessarily pushed on kids, but it does seem that they aren't making much of a distinction when it comes to who they are being sold to.
 
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I'd like to find the audio of one one their commercials
 
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Companies and the dollar are downright disgusting!!!
 
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This is no shocker GNC will sell PH's to the clueless too ... [uneducated kids under 21]
It's terrible.

I'll save the full story ... but an arguement took place ... [i felt like smacking dudes head, but decided a lawsuit against me wasn't worth it.]
 

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Man, If that was my little brother some Fcuk was pushin gear on I would crack heads, ask questions second. Thats despicable.
 

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