NEWBIE with FULL SUPP SHELF would LOOOVVVEE some input guys...

renorudi

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Hey guys and thanks for taking the time to read/respond...

i was curious as to what advise u would all give me
i am 160 at around 15% bf. Id like to cut the bf down to about 7 and be at around 165.

Heres my list of products

mhp dark rage, dark matter, waxy maize
asteroid stack and jacked
probolic protein and isopure protein
fish oil, flax oil, and tonalin
mhp abomb and eclipse hmb
lcarnitine tartrate
kreakyln creatine
ester c
7 keto

green foods anti ox,muti vit and and min

I already take Test creme and have high mid range t levels (700's)
and was just diagnosed with VERRRY low igf-1 levels

I am pursuing getting gh treatment but as of now I still need to complete an mri and another round of blood

my thoughts are this
its winter now so maybe start w a bulking stage

730 wake/pre
1 scoup dark rage (30g carbs)
and 1 scoup waxy maize (30g/carbs)
2g l carnitine, 3 abomb
1 scoup isopure (25g/p)whey
1 scoup of probolic(25g/p) mixed release

930 post
dark matter-(48 g carbs)
1 scoup waxy maize (30 g carbs)
2 scoups isopure (50 g pr)
fish oils
ester c

1030 am
tuna on wh gr bread
40g pr 30 g carbs
multi green

200
lunch 1
meat and fruit or gr veggies
40g pr 30 g carbs
7 keto

500
lunch 2
meat and br rice/sw potato
40 pr/ 30 carbs
milk thistle, tonalin

8pm
dinner
meat and fruit or gr veggies
40g pr 30 g carbs
1 kreakylin

11pm
probolic time release protein
40 g pr 10 g carbs
3 abomb
green multi #2

I will track calorie intake and keep myself at a 3-500 caloric surplus per day

i will replace dark rage w jacked when it runs out
and can replace the eclipse hmb when the abomb runs out keeping hmb intake at 1500 am and 1500 mg

I feel like i want to add all of the benifits of the asteroid stack WHILE i am in such a strong stage of nutrient/ suppliment cycle to enhance and solidify the results, but i feel like I may be taking too much..

PLUS this will give me another opp for bloodwork without any supps that will alter my gh levels so I get a clean read...
if i SHOULD take it all together..
how would u integrate? and would u make any adjudtments to whats there now?
OR
should I build as much as I can with these supp stacks and then SWITCH or ADD the asteroid stack in about 30-45 days to avoid platueing and then start cutting for summer...
myb add pslin???

I really appreciate your help
thanks so much
-reno
 

bubbachew

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I'm a bit confused...you'd like to cut, but you're going to bulk? Correct?
 

renorudi

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in the end id like to b about 165 w about 7 pct bf
add 10 lbs of muscle and cut about 10 lbs of fat
thats why i said myb first do the caloric surplus first
im looking for redundancy/over dosage of products with the system and products ive selected
 

renorudi

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and trying to get input on if its smart to add the asteroid stack with everything else there or maybe do it one set of supps at a time..
 

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