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    need something for libido, running atd/stoked for pct but for some crazy reason stoked makes me retain water and get poofy. so i need to cut that out and replace it with something that will fight the libido killing that atd does to me. running alpha drive with it now, also have prime and paravol on hand. thinking about running it all but that might be overkill. any advise?

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    Prime helps libido big time for me. If anything, you should try cutting back on the AI's you are using. ATD plud ADED(Alpha Drive) could be lowering your estrogen and effecting libido. I'd say for a quick fix, drop the Alpha drive and continue your course with ATD(maybe cutting the dose in half once PCT is in full swing and recovery is feeling prominent) and adding in Prime or Paravol. No need to add both imo.
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    hey thanks for the response. i actually had no idea alpha drive could lower libido, if anything i assumed it would help. Ill run it full dose for another few days then cut both AI's in half and run it that dose for 2 weeks, lowering again if necessary. my libido is great for now, but its really important to have it in full swing 3 weeks from now haha i have a very important girl visiting me.

    does anyone know why stoked would make me retain water? I cant use nolva because after about 2 days of it my nipples get mega poofy and itch like crazy, atd and formestane are the only things i have used to work in that area. I guess serms just dont agree with me...

    im still gonna run the stoked in the future, maybe find something to run with it that will help dry me out, transdermal formestane is what im thinking. stoked actually increased my strength quite a bit....more than 3ad did...
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    how does prime increase libido? it has nothing to do with hormones. ever try clomid?
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    prime does/did not increase my libido.

    Puffy, nipps may be a sign of prolactin levels being out of wack and hence why nolva would not help and make the situation worse. This would also hinder your libido.
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    ive tried it all man....nolva, letro, clomid, caber, atd, formestane, stoked. im taking p5p right now, while on epi/p5p i had no puffyness at all, it actually dried me out quite a bit. its the 3rd time ive run stoked and every time i got puffy nips that went away when i stopped taking it, i swear theres something with serms that mess with me. AI's work great, epi works great also but it is a serm i believe so i dont know how to explain that. i did get prolactin issues in the past that letro took care of right away. I currently have no problems with libido, but i know how things can go while on pct...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsp0785 View Post
    how does prime increase libido? it has nothing to do with hormones. ever try clomid?
    Sexual desire is as much a neurological state as it is a physiological state - that is, the status and action of certain neurotransmitters that regulate satiation are highly involved in producing sexual urges! If PRIME operated through such neural pathways, particularly by altering certain factors involved in the motor-neuronal pathway [choline transports, acetylcholine biosynthesis], it could produce increased sexual desire in the absence of increased sex hormones.

    This is highly, highly, highly hypothetical though, and entirely invalidated! Merely my personal thoughts based on what I notice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Sexual desire is as much a neurological state as it is a physiological state - that is, the status and action of certain neurotransmitters that regulate satiation are highly involved in producing sexual urges! If PRIME operated through such neural pathways, particularly by altering certain factors involved in the motor-neuronal pathway [choline transports, acetylcholine biosynthesis], it could produce increased sexual desire in the absence of increased sex hormones.

    This is highly, highly, highly hypothetical though, and entirely invalidated! Merely my personal thoughts based on what I notice.
    did that study ever find out why prime works? haven't seen any info on it
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsp0785 View Post
    did that study ever find out why prime works? haven't seen any info on it
    Not yet. I know some people have found a libido boost from Prime, it varies from person to person though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Not yet. I know some people have found a libido boost from Prime, it varies from person to person though.
    is it safe to put out a product when u have no idea how it work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsp0785 View Post
    is it safe to put out a product when u have no idea how it work?
    There are many examples of drugs that are for sale, and approved for human use where the MOA is not known.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsp0785 View Post
    is it safe to put out a product when u have no idea how it work?
    If enough prior beta-work has been done to ensure the product is safe and effect, and the company is open about the fact it isn't sure how the product is working, then I feel the consumer should be allowed to purchase the product. Nobody is forcing you to buy PRIME; you can wait until they find the MOA (Which they are actively trying to do) before you purchase, that is your prerogative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by small_guy View Post
    There are many examples of drugs that are for sale, and approved for human use where the MOA is not known.
    I agree - the exact method through which Tylenol modulates COX levels through prostangladin manipulation is still unknown.

    is it safe to put out a product when u have no idea how it work?
    Neither compound is listed as cyto-toxic in any manner, nor has any known metabolites known to induce any pathological conditions. To compound this, we completed thorough alpha and beta testing processes, complete with blood panels.
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    I could swear that Prime acts as a vasodilator, as my libido does not seem to improve in the manner that it would with a test booster but I seem to get it up regardless - much more akin to melanotan II or a NO product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    If enough prior beta-work has been done to ensure the product is safe and effect, and the company is open about the fact it isn't sure how the product is working, then I feel the consumer should be allowed to purchase the product. Nobody is forcing you to buy PRIME; you can wait until they find the MOA (Which they are actively trying to do) before you purchase, that is your prerogative.
    i've already taken prime and liked it... was just curious
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    Quote Originally Posted by small_guy View Post
    There are many examples of drugs that are for sale, and approved for human use where the MOA is not known.
    Good post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsp0785 View Post
    is it safe to put out a product when u have no idea how it work?
    Why the government allows hydrogenated fats is beyond me...
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    If your looking for a libido boost, I would go with something else. Bulk maca, for instance.

    Prime did boost my libido significantly, however. That and Blue GENE was a sweet stack.

    I'm wondering how Stoked! made you bloat? It's a natural AI which should do the opposite.
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    testofen bulk... took a teaspoon once by mistake when the serving is only 1/4 and my girlfriend hated me
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsp0785 View Post
    testofen bulk... took a teaspoon once by mistake when the serving is only 1/4 and my girlfriend hated me
    And not because you smelled like maple syrup I assume
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    And not because you smelled like maple syrup I assume
    haha that's just an added bonus. i just wish it tasted like maple syrup
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows View Post
    If your looking for a libido boost, I would go with something else. Bulk maca, for instance.

    Prime did boost my libido significantly, however. That and Blue GENE was a sweet stack.

    I'm wondering how Stoked! made you bloat? It's a natural AI which should do the opposite.
    you got me, i stopped for 2 days and honestly noticed leaning. plus having run it 3 times im positive its the stoked that does it. Im back on it though, my libido went down in those two days also, atd kills my libido...im switching to transdermal formestane from now on and just keeping atd on hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger71 View Post
    you got me, i stopped for 2 days and honestly noticed leaning. plus having run it 3 times im positive its the stoked that does it. Im back on it though, my libido went down in those two days also, atd kills my libido...im switching to transdermal formestane from now on and just keeping atd on hand.
    if u like stoked try sustain alpha since trans res doesn't absorb very well when taken orally... and before somebody says well there's stuff in stoked to help with absorption, not once has anybody been able to tell me how much of a difference it actually makes
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