- 02-27-2009, 11:09 PM
- 02-27-2009, 11:13 PM
Nah. It's fine for occasional use. I use it here and there myself.
- 02-27-2009, 11:20 PM
Cool, I couldn't find anything on google. Lately I have been sleeping horribly and I've had to get up at least once a night when nature called. This makes me feel like a zombie in the morning, but it gets the job done.
02-27-2009, 11:21 PM
Ya man, that stuff is great when you're in a bad sleeping rut. Only thing that seems to help me.
02-27-2009, 11:43 PM
I personally havent heard anything about it...but u may wanna give melatonin or somnidren gh a try...diphenhydramine hcl always makes it impossible to wake up the next morning...super groggy, and hungover almost...
02-28-2009, 08:54 AM
Yeah, the stack from MST, being Somnidren and ZMK is solid, my buddy uses it. Looks like a solid profile with useful amounts. I've had great success with Nocturnabol form AMS, and stacking it with lots of ingredients contained in the MST stack. Pretty soon though, just going to do the MST stuff with Nocturnabol. Good luck, and keep us posted!!
02-28-2009, 08:55 AM
02-28-2009, 11:39 AM
In several studies, advil/ibuprofen has been shown to have negative effects on muscle growth. I don't have the time to link them right now, but I'm sure pub-med would yield some results and/or google would too.
I saw one that contended the exact opposite, but it's a pretty one-sided argument.
02-28-2009, 11:50 AM
You should be fine using it only in needed situations and i think you can find the active ingredient in certain products with out the additional acetametaphin but idk.
I did really like somnidren for times when i need to take a sleep aid for a slightly extended period of time tho.
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02-28-2009, 11:52 AM
Yeah. Slightly is nice. Just for the record, I slept about 11 hours last night and I'm still a bit groggy.
02-28-2009, 04:06 PM
I've seen that, your thinking about pills from the NSAID's group, Non Steroidal Anti-Inflammant Drugs.In several studies, advil/ibuprofen has been shown to have negative effects on muscle growth. I don't have the time to link them right now, but I'm sure pub-med would yield some results and/or google would too.
02-28-2009, 06:01 PM
02-28-2009, 06:26 PM
The benadryl shouldn't matter, it doesn't have any effects similar to NSAIDS.
You know, if you have pain and don't want to take an NSAID (lets say minimal pain, like a headache or something) use tylenol. Tylenol isn't anti-inflammatory, just anti-pyretic and analgesic (reduces fever and pain). The anti-inflammatory action of the NSAIDS is what is purported to reduce muscle growth, I guess following the logic that muscle growth is spurred by microtrauma and resultant inflammation/repair.
Honestly, I'd only worry about that stuff if you were taking consistent high doses of NSAIDs. And you'd have other things to worry about if you needed that much medication.
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