Geranamine and Sulbutiamine Doping Status
- 02-26-2009, 05:34 AM
- 02-26-2009, 09:23 AM
To be completely honest, no clue.
The geranamine might be a little suspect, as organizations differ in approach to stimulants (caffeine), however sulbutiamine is a just a b-1 vitamin analog so I would be extremely surprised if they cared.
- 02-26-2009, 04:25 PM
I got an answer from USADA, they are both NOT on the banned list BUT they are unsure on how G. might come up in a urine test.
I checked and the chemical skeleton of G., it is similar to Amph.
Things don't look good.
02-26-2009, 04:31 PM
I was under the impression that Geran. caused a false positive for amphetamines. This was mentioned in an article a while ago. I believe it was supposed to clear your system in 3-4 days, however.
02-26-2009, 04:32 PM
Keep us in the loop, good luck.
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02-26-2009, 06:18 PM
Seems like the geranamine might cause problems because it has a similar structure to several beta agonists include amphetamine, ephedrine etc...
02-26-2009, 07:30 PM
The structure is VERY different from Eph.
It's only similar to Amph.
02-26-2009, 07:45 PM
02-26-2009, 07:55 PM
Don't just watch the structure, check what's attached to it.
Anyhow, compare to Geranamine.
02-26-2009, 08:06 PM
02-26-2009, 08:08 PM
03-18-2009, 02:49 PM
04-18-2009, 06:16 PM
alright, so the only similarity i see with geranamine and amph is the methyl and amine groups at the carbon. am i right?
this similarity in structure can actually cause a false positive for amphetamines in a UA???
04-19-2009, 04:34 PM
I don't know anything about WADA testing or USDSA or whatever but I do know that last november I failed a work quick test for amphs while taking 1,3 dimethylamylamine (Geranium) and sat on my ass for four days waiting the testers to figure out what cause was, then they cleared me. I'd be careful.
04-19-2009, 05:08 PM
Now you have me worried because I just went in for a hair sample drug test for a new job, lol.
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04-23-2009, 05:40 PM
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