Pre-workout supplement

[digitalbass]

Ive just recently tried Nano by Muscletech from a friend. Its supposed to open up your veins and let blood flow more freely and give you more pump. I liked it but is there anything else out there in pill form that is better?

 

[Steveoph]

There's plenty of better options; MuscleTech spends way too much money on advertising and coming up with fancy product names, and too little on investing in quality products & ingredients. Secondly, Nitric Oxide (NO) boosters don't do very much and your money could be much better spent on other supplements.

You need to get your diet and training check before you start worrying about supplements. Try reading http://anabolicminds.com/forum/training-forum/86088-neoborn-s-where.html and http://anabolicminds.com/forum/training-forum/99607-gaining-mass-nutshell.html . Then make sure you've got your staples covered, here's my C&P.


Staples: Whey (Best value & taste ) , Creatine ( Monohydrate works , and is $13/kg), Fish Oils (10/day of the 180/120 EPA/DHA is a good starting point), Good Multi (I like ADAM ), ZMA ( Best Value ) . Healthy Fats: Nuts, Coconut Oil, Fish oils, etc , Pre-Bed Protein : ON's Casein .

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If you have any other friends using MuscleTech products, please get them to join this forum, do some reading, and better understand there are much better choices than MT out there.

 

[corsaking]

There's plenty of better options; MuscleTech spends way too much money on advertising and coming up with fancy product names, and too little on investing in quality products & ingredients. Secondly, Nitric Oxide (NO) boosters don't do very much and your money could be much better spent on other supplements.

You need to get your diet and training check before you start worrying about supplements. Try reading http://anabolicminds.com/forum/training-forum/86088-neoborn-s-where.html and http://anabolicminds.com/forum/training-forum/99607-gaining-mass-nutshell.html . Then make sure you've got your staples covered, here's my C&P.


Staples: Whey (Best value & taste ) , Creatine ( Monohydrate works [/B], and is $13/kg), Fish Oils (10/day of the 180/120 EPA/DHA is a good starting point), Good Multi (I like ADAM ), ZMA ( Best Value ) . Healthy Fats: Nuts, Coconut Oil, Fish oils, etc , Pre-Bed Protein : ON's Casein .

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If you have any other friends using MuscleTech products, please get them to join this forum, do some reading, and better understand there are much better choices than MT out there.

do you still load up on creatine mono -havent used that version for a long time?

 

[wrasslin116]

do you still load up on creatine mono -havent used that version for a long time?

You could if you want, that's if you want it to kick in quicker I believe.
5-10g is just fine though and more cost friendly.

 

[Steveoph]

do you still load up on creatine mono -havent used that version for a long time?

Studies showed there's no need to load. 2.5-5g pre and postWO with carbs is about right.

 

[BigFish80]

Don't waste your time with MuscleTech. Overpriced and not worth it. Go with the Nutraplanet Ultimate MassPump Stack (CEE, AEE, CM) and add in Nutraplanet Creatine Monohydrate and Nutraplanet Beta-Alanine. Mix 2-3 grams of each in 5-6oz of Hot water (to ensure good mixing) and top with Light Cranberry Juice or other favorite juice. Pop your favorite pre-workout stim (I use RPM) and you're ready to go.

Bottom line...... this is Cheaper and more effective. It also gives you the ability to play with the dosages and create your own Moster Mixture....... Mwooo haa haa haa!

 

[Knewsance]

well I tried nano but the only affects I felt was on my wallet. Superpump by gaspari is good but its has been known to be hard on the stomach. NO-Shotgun by vpx is a good one also. Or white flood by controlled labs but i like the powder more then the pill myself and I would buy it offline and stay away from gnc it is alot more cost friendly online

 

[mxmatt15]

dont wana bash on any brand by muscle tech is garbage and a complete waste of money. try some jacked, ur pumps will be insane

 

[JudgementDay]

My Pre-Workout Arsenal
Prime 6 caps
Powerfull 3 caps
Super cissus 1 cap
Jack3d 2 scoops
Xrend 3 scoops

I get the best workouts ever with this combo

 

[vince spider]

im a big fan of RPM by applied nutriceuticals, awesome pumps, indurance and intensity on RPM

 

[corsaking]

im a big fan of RPM by applied nutriceuticals, awesome pumps, indurance and intensity on RPM

Do your energy levels drop quickly to the point of wanting to sleep once the effect wears off?

I also read somewhere that the dosage on the label may not suit everyone and you have to find your own level to make it effective. How have you found it?

 

[RenegadeRows]

White FLOOD tablets or powder
Ragnarok
Jacked

 

[Ubiyca]

Studies showed there's no need to load. 2.5-5g pre and postWO with carbs is about right.

Honestly...

Screw the studies..

I load 20-30grams, and then I'll maybe do 20 after that too for normal cycle and I add a decent amount of weight and strength that I woludn't get the same from dosing 5grams ED like the "studies" say is the same thing.

 

[Knewsance]

My Pre-Workout Arsenal
Prime 6 caps
Powerfull 3 caps
Super cissus 1 cap
Jack3d 2 scoops
Xrend 3 scoops

I get the best workouts ever with this combo

Jesus man i would hope so haha

 

[airram479]

I have too agree with the majority here. I mean, how you spend your hard earned cash is up to you,but muscletech will leave you broke and dissapointed in the end. Since i just posted a thread about supps on a budget i am going to have to say buy in bulk. I just purchased a stack from 1 fast about 3 weeks ago and it consists of: CEE,AEE,BA,CM,Taurine,Caffeine. That stack gets me jacked big time. Crazy pumps,and endurance.

 

[corsaking]

My Pre-Workout Arsenal
Prime 6 caps
Powerfull 3 caps
Super cissus 1 cap
Jack3d 2 scoops
Xrend 3 scoops

I get the best workouts ever with this combo

just been reading the product claims about POWERFULL and this is what some of it says "About 20-40 minutes after taking PowerFULL you will begin to yawn. Now you won’t be real tired, just feeling a calm sense of relaxation and peace. This is the sign of your body releasing HGH. So yawning is good!"

Do you feel the same =not good i would have thought before a gym session

I see you take Jacked-maybe that overcomes the yawning effect -how are you affected?

 

[Steveoph]

Yea the lethargy is countered by the stims, but I usually reserve my Powerfull for Pre-Bed. SuperSap might be a better idea PreWO w/ Jack3d.

 

[borobulker]

Yea the lethargy is countered by the stims, but I usually reserve my Powerfull for Pre-Bed. SuperSap might be a better idea PreWO w/ Jack3d.

I concur. ^^^^^

 

[JudgementDay]

just been reading the product claims about POWERFULL and this is what some of it says "About 20-40 minutes after taking PowerFULL you will begin to yawn. Now you won’t be real tired, just feeling a calm sense of relaxation and peace. This is the sign of your body releasing HGH. So yawning is good!"

Do you feel the same =not good i would have thought before a gym session

I see you take Jacked-maybe that overcomes the yawning effect -how are you affected?

Weird, I never got any yawns. But I never did a workout with powerfull with out Jacked, but with that stack I get insane energy and strength very far from a yawn, I just feel like I get the perfect workout everytime with this stack and I've never got this feeling from any other supplements.

 

[vince spider]

Do your energy levels drop quickly to the point of wanting to sleep once the effect wears off?

I also read somewhere that the dosage on the label may not suit everyone and you have to find your own level to make it effective. How have you found it?

i take 3 caps of rpm around 4 30 in the afternoon and train at 5 10pm. i normally go to bed around 10 30pm at night. so no i dont have that energy level drop off thing you were talking about. ive tried taking 2 rpms before a workout but i just found 3 was the magic number 4 me:bruce3:

 

[dedlifter1]

Musclepharm Assault. Best pre wo imho

 

[ABNRanger]

I concur. ^^^^^

What is the half life of PF? I ask because if you remember my lethargic issue, well I was taking 2 PF after breakfast. Even though the lethargic feeling did not happen till almost noon after taking AP (might be coincidental).