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    I was after some suggestions for the best Anti-Estrogen supp, i think they are called AIs? I may be wrong. I have tried and seen a lot of info on the test boosters but i havent really tried a AI before, so was keen on getting some info on them. I think 6-oxo is a Anti-estrogen supp, is that right? I need to figure out which of them are allowed through customs in australia, so nothing that is prescription based.

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    Aromatase is the enzyme that converts testosterone to estrogen. AI is Aromatase Inhibitor. I would suggest something like Formestane of 6-oxo (Trione) transdermally. Alot of people are excited for the return of formestane , and we just got a new TD formula http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/n...-8oz-8-oz.html . To learn how to mix it, see http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...ane-eform.html
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    Looks complicated , never used something like that before, would customs stop it?
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    That would depend on where your from. Every country has different customs regulations mate.
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    Whats the best oral format? I am in Australia, we do have pretty strict customs.
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    depends, do you care if you can get an erection or not (serious) if not, then ATD is cheap and very effective. if being able to get it up matters, then likely 6-oxo is your best bet.
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    6-Oxo gets into Australia in most cases. It isn't on our prohibited list, that doesn't mean customs won't do something strange and confiscate it just as a precaution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Alot of people are excited for the return of formestane
    And speaking of which: when is this particular unicorn scheduled to heave into view? Wasn't it supposed to be here already?
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    Best but hardest to find and only good transdermally: Formestane
    Next best from what I've seen: 6-bromo
    Effective, dirt cheap but not pretty: ATD
    Also good but darn expensive: 6oxo


    I concur with Easy, 6oxo increased libido, the rest of them chased it off with a large stick
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    How come the others get rid of libido but 6 oxo doesnt? I think libido is sort of important for me, not cause i am trying to have a kid or anything but i just dont know how i would feel if i had a lower case of the libidos, i just dont think i would be happy about it, but are they a lot better in other ways?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BodyWizard View Post
    And speaking of which: when is this particular unicorn scheduled to heave into view? Wasn't it supposed to be here already?
    It's supposed to roll in by the end of the week; tracking isn't the greatest on it, but that was the timeframe we're working with.
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    no telling really it may be something to do with ratios of testosterone : estrogen : prolactin, might be something else entirely. 6-bromo is neutral to positive on libido, depending on dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    no telling really it may be something to do with ratios of testosterone : estrogen : prolactin, might be something else entirely. 6-bromo is neutral to positive on libido, depending on dose.
    Yup, my theory is oxo is less harsh on eradicating estrogen @ normal doses than it's partners in crime.

    6-bromo wasn't very nice on my libido but i had a high dose going. great gains though
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    and that too is another thing, individual responses vary. I'm ok at 50mg ATD a day, some people are limp noodles at that
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    AromX would work too
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    Formestane has been a brilliant product for me. I don't know if that has partly to do with my age but 100mg on workout days and I am good to go any time.
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    formestane gets a 5 star rating, next in line is reversitol with 4 stars. i believe 6oxo increases libido more than the rest because ive been told by a ergopharm rep that it is a test booster and improves the test to estrogen ratio but has little effect on amount of estrogen. also for those of you who didn't see the study, it appears that 3 caps ed is more effective than 6, this also makes it much more inexpensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    formestane gets a 5 star rating, next in line is reversitol with 4 stars. i believe 6oxo increases libido more than the rest because ive been told by a ergopharm rep that it is a test booster and improves the test to estrogen ratio but has little effect on amount of estrogen. also for those of you who didn't see the study, it appears that 3 caps ed is more effective than 6, this also makes it much more inexpensive.
    thebigt is right.
    Studies showed increase in estradiol, Test, and DHT.
    DHT makes for good wood.

    Here's the study: http://www.jissn.com/content/4/1/13
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    Quote Originally Posted by GotTest View Post
    thebigt is right.
    Studies showed increase in estradiol, Test, and DHT.
    DHT makes for good wood.

    Here's the study: http://www.jissn.com/content/4/1/13
    i added 2 caps of 6oxo to last week of mmv2 cycle-ended up with a fireplace log.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows View Post
    Best but hardest to find and only good transdermally: Formestane
    Next best from what I've seen: 6-bromo
    Effective, dirt cheap but not pretty: ATD
    Also good but darn expensive: 6oxo


    I concur with Easy, 6oxo increased libido, the rest of them chased it off with a large stick
    nutraplanet has generic 6oxo on sale right now. 90caps for $30 i don't know if that's expensive but here ya go, for info purposes http://store.anabolicminds.com/produ...e-90-caps.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by lennoxchi View Post
    nutraplanet has generic 6oxo on sale right now. 90caps for $30 i don't know if that's expensive but here ya go, for info purposes http://store.anabolicminds.com/produ...e-90-caps.html
    Good call Too bad serving size is 3 caps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    It's supposed to roll in by the end of the week; tracking isn't the greatest on it, but that was the timeframe we're working with.
    I hope you guys ordered a couple kilos!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GotTest View Post
    I hope you guys ordered a couple kilos!
    Got that right... and keep it coming...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GotTest View Post
    I hope you guys ordered a couple kilos!
    You bet We know demand when we see it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    You bet We know demand when we see it
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    So 6-oxo isnt as much a estrogen blocker as a test booster? thing is i already have enough test boosters like DTHC and Activate Xtreme. I was looking for something to stop estrogen, i thought 6-oxo was always advertised as a estrogen blocker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf77 View Post
    So 6-oxo isnt as much a estrogen blocker as a test booster? thing is i already have enough test boosters like DTHC and Activate Xtreme. I was looking for something to stop estrogen, i thought 6-oxo was always advertised as a estrogen blocker?
    6-oxo will block the aromatase enzyme to a certain degree. There are stronger AI's out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    6-oxo will block the aromatase enzyme to a certain degree. There are stronger AI's out there.
    6-bromo eh-hem!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    and that too is another thing, individual responses vary. I'm ok at 50mg ATD a day, some people are limp noodles at that
    And feeling like they are in their 80's as well as your joints are dried out and feel like brittle. LOL.

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    i always really liked 6oxo and 6oxo extreme, recently ive used and been very impressed by formadrol extreme

    theres many great options out there, all well priced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-AD View Post
    6-bromo eh-hem!!

    Sorry, had a little cough there...
    Another effective AI indeed!
    You must be thinking HDX2, aPCT
    I've also been looking at IDS version as well...but then again it is IDS
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    Quote Originally Posted by GotTest View Post
    Another effective AI indeed!
    You must be thinking HDX2, aPCT
    I've also been looking at IDS version as well...but then again it is IDS
    bromodrol does look interesting, but i have seen no reviews on it. maybe one day i will try it as part of nha stack, but i wouldn't trust it for pct until i tried it out. if you do try it pm me and let me know how it goes, or just log it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    formestane gets a 5 star rating, next in line is reversitol with 4 stars. i believe 6oxo increases libido more than the rest because ive been told by a ergopharm rep that it is a test booster and improves the test to estrogen ratio but has little effect on amount of estrogen. also for those of you who didn't see the study, it appears that 3 caps ed is more effective than 6, this also makes it much more inexpensive.
    true , i believe 6-oxo is one of the safest because of that, estrogen values don't go to low and that's a big advantage when compared to the others, estrogen is crucial to libido, muscle gains and joint health but people sometimes forget or don't know about that
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    Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    true , i believe 6-oxo is one of the safest because of that, estrogen values don't go to low and that's a big advantage when compared to the others, estrogen is crucial to libido, muscle gains and joint health but people sometimes forget or don't know about that
    Yea E2 is very important. I played around with low dosages of ATD, 25mg/day and it still crushed my E2; killed the libido and joints. 25mg EOD is what I might have needed; I'll be trying TD formestane soon though. Reversitol 2 on 1 off worked well for me, will be trying Arimidox in the near future as well probably. I like the 6-Bromo, ATD & I3C combo.
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    6 oxo and Novedex xt both are said to raise testosterone by a percentage but do all
    A Is work this way? Or is the ratio of t to e increased due to the lowering of e?
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    Quote Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    6 oxo and Novedex xt both are said to raise testosterone by a percentage but do all
    A Is work this way? Or is the ratio of t to e increased due to the lowering of e?
    that is what we have been talking about, 6oxo should not be compared to other ai's, it works more as a test booster. atd, which is in novadex works on decreasing extrogen this in turn will cause test levels to raise. it is confusing, hope this helps a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    that is what we have been talking about, 6oxo should not be compared to other ai's, it works more as a test booster. atd, which is in novadex works on decreasing extrogen this in turn will cause test levels to raise. it is confusing, hope this helps a little.
    thanks but heres another question -if libido fails due to taking too much atd or alternative AI how do you get it back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    thanks but heres another question -if libido fails due to taking too much atd or alternative AI how do you get it back?
    thats easy-take some 6oxo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    thanks but heres another question -if libido fails due to taking too much atd or alternative AI how do you get it back?
    or not take any of it for a few days to a week, and then start again at a lower dose. The reason you loose libido is generally because estrogen levels go too low.
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    what about sustain alpha?
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