Supplements for 18 year old college bound football player

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  1. Supplements for 18 year old college bound football player


    My son will sign his national letter of intent papers to play football in college in a few weeks. He is currently 6'3" 195lbs and plays QB. He is starting the off-season lifting and has 4-5 months to put on 10-15 pounds (or more) of muscle. He is currently taking No Xplod before workouts, cell mass after and muscle milk 2x per day. I want to safely help him achieve his goals with proper supplementation. There's so much out there and the local guys at the nutrition stores want to sell us anything/everything they have. What products and regimen would you recommend? Thanks for your help!


  2. Well I would switch up the Muscle Milk with some regular whey, ON or ATW is a good choice.
    Also creatine mono would be good, drop the NO Xplode and Cellmass, you can get way better for cheaper.
    If you want a good pre-workout get White Flood by Controlled Labs.
    Also a good amino mix like Xtend or Purple Wraath is very beneficial.
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  3. How long has he been lifting?
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  4. First switch I would make is the muscle milk to either ATW or TrueProtein - drop the NoXplode and Cellmass, there are hundreds of product that would better suffice - RPM, ZAP I could go all day - Look into Gaspari Size-On to replace CellMass(I havent used it and cant recomend it myself but I have seen good feedback) or Torrent.

    And don't forget about the basics - Creatine (plain bulk mono would be fine) , Multi (NOW ADAM, Animal Pak), EFA's etc.

  5. Also, dare I say try out some PRIME? It's non-hormonal and works wonders for some, does nothing for others, and is fairly expensive to run, kinda hit or miss I guess.
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  6. If he's 18 and has good lifting experience why not try mass-fx or dth?
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  7. Tell him to read http://anabolicminds.com/forum/train...n-s-where.html
    Gaining mass in a nutshell (a big nutshell) , or you can read them for him

    Staples: Whey (Best value & taste ) , Creatine (Monohydrate works , and is $13/kg), Fish Oils (10/day of the 180/120 EPA/DHA is a good starting point), Good Multi (I like ADAM ), ZMA ( Best Value . To put on mass he needs to expend more cals; a great source of fats that I personally swear by are Coconut Oil , boosts thyroid, metabolism, positively linked with test levels, and I find it gives me more energy. I like 1 Tbsp pre-bed, and elsewhere as needed. You might want to get him to take some casein pre-bed, either cottage cheese or something like ON's Casein .

  8. Where's he playing for?

    Also - EAT EAT EAT and EAT some more. I gained a fair amount of muscle while I was in college when I got serious about eating and eating better.

  9. in season:
    whey
    multi
    ZMA

    off season:
    whey
    creatine
    multi
    zma

  10. eat, eat, and eat so more, Whey protein cheap with high amount of protein any brand really many different kinds, some cheap creatine mono, drop the cell mass and no-xplod, white flood, purple wrath and green mag are good one, lift between 8-10 reps per set and hit em hard, make sure to focus on the compound lifts and hit them all, bench squat, deads, close grip bench, barbell curls the works and after all this eat some more lean mean (tuna, turkey, chicken) and peanut butter is also good, get some fruits apples, bannas gota stay healthy and bannas are really good with the potassium in them, and some nuts i like smoked almonds and cashews, but for a sweet tooth honey nut roasted peanuts are my fave hope this helps

  11. I'd stick with the Muscle MIlk, it should be fine for an active kid his age.

    I'd use CRE-02 instead of the No-Xplode and Cell Mass. It will do more for his power and endurance, as well as anti-oxidant protection.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Tell him to read http://anabolicminds.com/forum/train...n-s-where.html
    Gaining mass in a nutshell (a big nutshell) , or you can read them for him

    Staples: Whey (Best value & taste ) , Creatine (Monohydrate works , and is $13/kg), Fish Oils (10/day of the 180/120 EPA/DHA is a good starting point), Good Multi (I like ADAM ), ZMA ( Best Value . To put on mass he needs to expend more cals; a great source of fats that I personally swear by are Coconut Oil , boosts thyroid, metabolism, positively linked with test levels, and I find it gives me more energy. I like 1 Tbsp pre-bed, and elsewhere as needed. You might want to get him to take some casein pre-bed, either cottage cheese or something like ON's Casein .
    This^^^^^

    Keep it simple and just have him eat a ton. Maybe add something like Poseidon for some better hydration as i kno it helped me even if i was only a HS athlete compared to probably higher demands of a collegiate athlete.

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  13. I'll echo what has been said, with a twist. Protien (whey plus casein for pre-bed), creatine, BCAA's, fish oil and a multi should be all he needs supp-wise.

    As far as the eat-eat-eat mantra, it's absolutely true, but try to get him to understand the principles of nutrition timing and protien/carb/fat ratio's. Pre and post workout nutrition is vital, and when done right will really make a difference. A lifelong hard-gainer, I gained a solid 15lbs one winter at 35 years old after I learned HOW to eat. Now, at 41 I'm in the best shape of my life and still growing. He's 6'3", if he has a good frame he will grow like a weed.

    BTW, you came to the right place. I lurked here forever and finally found religion. Kudo's to you for being involved and doing what your doing to get him where he needs to be. Good luck.

  14. not to burst your bubble but theres no way in hell that hes gonna gain 10-15lbs of lean muscle in 4-5 months......unless u juice. your body can only produce ~1.5 of muscle a month and thats will a really good diet and hard training i would say 8lbs at best

  15. Quote Originally Posted by mxmatt15 View Post
    not to burst your bubble but theres no way in hell that hes gonna gain 10-15lbs of lean muscle in 4-5 months......unless u juice. your body can only produce ~1.5 of muscle a month and thats will a really good diet and hard training i would say 8lbs at best
    Are you serious???? man you might wanna rethink your source of knowledge before you start throwin out info...

  16. As a former CFB QB i have always wished i could of had some SUper Cissus for my throwing shoulder and elbow joint. I would also look into something like DTH or Mass FX for strength and weight gains. And for muscle endurance an quickness look into cordyceps products like Anabolic Edge..he needs to remember that he is a QB and while its important to bulk up so he can take the physical beating of D1 ball it is absolutely paramount that he keeps and improves he speed and quickness which will translate into better footwork and more success

  17. Quote Originally Posted by panther77 View Post
    Are you serious???? man you might wanna rethink your source of knowledge before you start throwin out info...
    shows how much you know

  18. Quote Originally Posted by mxmatt15 View Post
    shows how much you know
    And you at 5'10 155 are sure to be a vast wealth of nutritional information.
    Arent you the same person that said powerfull and m-stak contain human growth hormone?lol
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by pantherdude63 View Post
    And you at 5'10 155 are sure to be a vast wealth of nutritional information.
    Arent you the same person that said powerfull and m-stak contain human growth hormone?lol
    Hey! Don't hate on us skinny people, lol.

  20. My bad. Im not hatin on ecto's...I just think its possible to gain more than 1.5 pounds a month...sorry bro.lol
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by pantherdude63 View Post
    My bad. Im not hatin on ecto's...I just think its possible to gain more than 1.5 pounds a month...sorry bro.lol
    I know what you're saying and I completely agree. What is the concensus? Almost a pound a week is possible under good to flawless conditions? I think a lot of people when they read a pound a week, are looking at one muscle group and going "no way can I gain a pound in my arms in a week.". Should be realized the weight gain is throughout the entire muscular system if training whole body throughout the week.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by pantherdude63 View Post
    And you at 5'10 155 are sure to be a vast wealth of nutritional information.
    Arent you the same person that said powerfull and m-stak contain human growth hormone?lol
    well then i guess u must be smarter than my doctor. and i never said that m stak contains gh but that it increases it, apparently u must of misunderstood me. wouldnt want to insult ur HUGE brain

  23. ohh and i even came across this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4s9_...g_lesson1.html

    but i guess u must be starter than him too

  24. Quote Originally Posted by mxmatt15 View Post
    well then i guess u must be smarter than my doctor. and i never said that m stak contains gh but that it increases it, apparently u must of misunderstood me. wouldnt want to insult ur HUGE brain
    dude, quit being a prick

  25. I would have him get a stack of the following products. Prime by usp labs, Anabolic pump by usp labs, muscle milk collegiate by cytosport, and animal pak for multivitamin. This stack would not have him fail any drugtest and should put some good weight on him.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Esox Express View Post
    dude, quit being a prick
    just trying to state the facts

  27. Quote Originally Posted by mxmatt15 View Post
    well then i guess u must be smarter than my doctor. and i never said that m stak contains gh but that it increases it, apparently u must of misunderstood me. wouldnt want to insult ur HUGE brain
    No you said that it contains it so dont even try to lie about it. Also, I believe my brain is normal size but what you said is a very broad statement and I'm sure that there is someone walking around this planet that can gain more than 2 pounds of muscle in one month.
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by pantherdude63 View Post
    No you said that it contains it so dont even try to lie about it. Also, I believe my brain is normal size but what you said is a very broad statement and I'm sure that there is someone walking around this planet that can gain more than 2 pounds of muscle in one month.
    i dont have anything to lie about, and dont tell me what i meant to say. And it says non hormonal i dont see how I could get mixed up. I deff agree that there is someone that can gain more than 2lbs and those people have godly genes.

  29. [QUOTE=mxmatt15;1768284]i dont have anything to lie about, and dont tell me what i meant to say. And it says non hormonal i dont see how I could get mixed up. I deff agree that there is someone that can gain more than 2lbs and those people have godly genes.[/QUOTE

    I wasnt telling you what you meant to say because you kinda said it. But I dont have the time to have a little internet "fight" with you cuz im tired. Peace.
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  30. ok its finally resolved
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