Methyl 1-d, liquid masterdrol, protein?
- 01-07-2009, 04:56 AM
Methyl 1-d, liquid masterdrol, protein?
what kinds of geins should i expect from a cycle of Methyl 1-d, liquid masterdrol, and muscle milk......i took methyl 1-d about a year ago and went from about 150 to 170lbs...im wondering whatt eh added bonus of the liquid masterdrol and muscle milk would be...or atleast what i could expect to gein...im 5'11 160lbs currently...looking to really get my arms shoulders and chest bigger and more defined..
- 01-07-2009, 05:21 AM
to be honest bro, theres a lot better products than M1D in my opinion. the new formula now isnt as good as the old one so its a waste of money. the liquid masterdrol is supposed to give you strength gains and provide a better workout. didnt do much for me! also instead of muscle milk, i suggest you get a whey protein such as ON 100% Whey.
so IMO dont expect too much out of it. just have a solid diet and training regimen and you'll do fine! REMEMBER, supplements are only supplementary to your diet!
and when i was starting out, i also wanted to get my arms, shoulders and chest better....BUT as i got more knowledge i realized every muscle should be symetrical. because your back is a large muscle and having great arms shoulders and chest with a wack back wont look good. you also cant neglect your lower body exercises like the squat, the king of all lifts.
hope this helps
01-07-2009, 05:35 AM
are you reffering to the new methyl 1-dXL? i keep hearing its supposedly different compounds which is why GNC and places such as this carry this product instead of methyl1-d since Methyl1-d is getting banned...but i bought this before supplies ran out so its not XL....also i will be doing a full body workout when i go...in the area of 2-4 sets of 8-12 reps of decently heavy weight...ive heard that full body workouts use more muscle fibers therefore making a better workout for geining mass, am i confused on this? also what are the products that you are saying is better....id really like to know so i could invest
01-08-2009, 04:22 AM
well bro methyl 1-D has been banned yet again and LG Sciences has changed the formula again. also the m1D XL that is sold at GNC is crap. methyl 1-D is pretty much DHEA. and if you're going to take this, i wouldnt recommend doing full body workouts. i would focus on individual bodyparts, such as doing:
something along this nature worked really well for me! you focus on muscles twice a week and you give 100% as they will not be stressed when trained (ie. triceps drained when doing chest, thus tris wont be as strong to do them in same wo).
and to invest, i would just keep it simple with:
A LOT OF CLEAN FOOD (proteins, carbs, fats)
Whey Protein Isolate (ON 100% Whey)
Creatine (regular creatine mono or kre-alkaline)
BCAA's (scivation Xtend)
thats all i take and my gains are great
hope this helped bro
01-08-2009, 10:17 AM
There is no difference between the M1D XL, and M1D. The M1D XL is available at GNC, and it contains 135 caps, vs 90 in the regular sized bottle of M1D.
The Methyl 1-D was not banned again. It was simply re-formulated. The old version of M1D contained ATD, and the XL version contained 6-oxo. Those were removed and replaced with other ingredients.
Hope this helps you guys out.
01-09-2009, 04:57 AM
im just disappointed cuz the old m1d did alright for me. gained a good 7 lbs with it. tried it again with the new reformulated version and i gained maybe 1 lb. and it was probably my diet and training.
now...i checked and m1d sold oline does not contain the same formula as m1d XL sold at gnc. i checked and double checked and they're different compounds. just thought i'd let you know. and i have a friend that took the XL version and didnt gain using it.
im not trying to bash your products im just saying from experience.
01-09-2009, 05:52 AM
01-09-2009, 06:02 AM
Here is what you'll see out there still you will see the old formula, and you'll see the new formula. Like it was said the sites are just not updated.
Prohormone Complex 104.00 mg
Caprylic Acid (as Calcium Caprylate)
Metabolism Complex (Patent Pending) 209.00 mg
Zinc (as Zinc Aspartate)
Ellagic Acid Standardized
Coleus Forskolini Standardized
Anabolic/Anti-Estrogenic Complex: 125mg
Metabolism Complex (Patent Pending) 261mg
Ellagic Acid Standardized
Coleus Forskolin Standardized
Caprylic Acid (May Contain: Sodium Caprylate,
Zinc Caprylate, Magnesium Caprylate)
Milk Thistle (Standardized)
Stinging Nettle Extract
01-09-2009, 06:09 PM
VernyMac, if you gained 20lbs from the old M1D this stack will blow your mind. First of all, the new M1D is certainly not less powerful than the old, nor were the ingredients in the old version banned. Now you stack that with MMv2 which is the best strength/dry compound out right now and your size gains should beat that of your last cycle and your strength should shoot through the roof.
In my opinion there are better options than Muscle Milk, but any protein supplement will surely help this stack as the more calories the better.
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01-09-2009, 06:57 PM
01-29-2009, 02:45 PM
if you want to add some serious mass start doing some mega squat sessions!! they always get you growing... get a spotter and go somewhere with a squat rack. load it up and push it as hard as you can, there's some mega squat routines out there just remember to go heavy.
if you're taking ph's, even weaker ones like the lg trifecta stack, you'll get some size in a month of heavy squatting.
don't settle for a smith machine squat tho... my new gym has got one of these and no olympic bar!! i am devastated, is the only local gym so i have no choice for now still if you stuck with **** like this try single leg squats with the lifted leg resting on a bench behind you. a great exercise for strength!
good luck and don;t forget to up your diet with clean calories (whey protein) and carbs (veggies - esp brocolli)
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