Ok, in weave's world there are 2 ways to determine what supps to use for cutting, and they both are interrelated to each other: cost and efficacy! FYI: This thread will focus on cutting supplements, so please respond accordingly.
If a supp works effectively but the cost is just simply too prohibitive, then it's not worth your coin. If it's cheap but it isn't effective, you are also wasting your time. So obviously the most logical thing to do is get the best supp that works decently at a reasonable price.
Well the problem with that is that we are using words like "decently" and "reasonable"! These are subjectove words, and this is where arguments start: on one's perception of the definition of these and where and how that definition is applied. Some judge quality of a product based upon performance... they are willing to spend extra is the performance is above par. Others want somethign that will work not quite as well, but the cost is lower. I do not believe either philosophy is "right" or "wrong", as long as the reasoning behind it is just.
I realize that many factors go into the decision making process for some such as: brand loyalty, availibility, perceived satisfaction, location, shipping time, etc. Pleae list these, as some of these may be in disgareements with your own factors, but that's ok...as long as we realize everyone's decision making process isn't quite the same.
So let's get the ball rolling, shall we? I have done a few quick calculations on some popular cutting supplements using prices from either Power Nutrition, Bulknutrition, or Bodybuilding.com. Believe it or not there wasn't a huge difference in price between all 3 of them, actually. I'll provide my quick calculation using the average price from these 3 places (sans shipping), and figure out how much it costs per day to use this supp at the recommended or effective dosage. If you have a significantly better price or different dosage that you want to share with us, please list that, and redo the calculation for us with a new number.
I have picked a few thermogenic type cutting supplements that would be ideal for cutting IMO. We can get into others as exotic or odd as you like, simply provide the same breakdown and cost per day (i.e 7-keto, gugg, etc)
1. Nutrex Lipo-6 Effective dose = 6 caps daily 120caps/bottle 20 day supply
The average price is about $27. So 20 days for $27 = 27/20 = $1.35 daily
2. SAN Tight! Effective dose = 3 caps daily 60 caps/bottle 20 days supply
The average price is about $29. So 20 days for $29 = 29/20 = $1.45 daily
3. Ergolean MC Effective dose = 3 caps daily 90 caps/bottle 30 days supply
The average price is about $33. So 30 days for $33 = 33/30 = $1.10 daily
4. VPX Meltdown Effective dose = 6 caps daily 120 caps/bottle 20 day supply
The average price is about $49 So 20 days for $49 = 49/20 = $2.45 daily
5. VPX Clenbutrx Effective dose = 6 caps daily 120 caps/bottle 20 day supply
The average price is about $35. So 20 days for $35 = 35/20 = $1.75 daily
6. Liquid Clenbutrx Effective dose = 10mL daily 240mL/bottle 24 day supply
The average price is about $57. So 24 days for $57 = 57/24 = $2.38 daily
7. AST DymetadrineEFEffective dose = 6 caps daily 100caps/bottle 16 day supply
The average price is about $21. So 16 days for $21 = 21/16 = $1.31 daily
What should be noted is that some of these are ephedra free, or will be soon. I think we all know the ephedra ban will come soon (unfortunately), then we will be forced to deal with "EF" everything
As I've said before, you may have disagreements or different pricing, dosing, quality concerns, whatever. Just be sure to include reasoning in why you would choose one supp over the other. My personal opinion: I thgink Lipo-6 is looking good for now, but I was also surprised at Ergolean MC's price, although I'm doubtful of how effective it will really be. Big shocker: VPX is expensive
If a supp works effectively but the cost is just simply too prohibitive, then it's not worth your coin. If it's cheap but it isn't effective, you are also wasting your time. So obviously the most logical thing to do is get the best supp that works decently at a reasonable price.
Well the problem with that is that we are using words like "decently" and "reasonable"! These are subjectove words, and this is where arguments start: on one's perception of the definition of these and where and how that definition is applied. Some judge quality of a product based upon performance... they are willing to spend extra is the performance is above par. Others want somethign that will work not quite as well, but the cost is lower. I do not believe either philosophy is "right" or "wrong", as long as the reasoning behind it is just.
I realize that many factors go into the decision making process for some such as: brand loyalty, availibility, perceived satisfaction, location, shipping time, etc. Pleae list these, as some of these may be in disgareements with your own factors, but that's ok...as long as we realize everyone's decision making process isn't quite the same.
So let's get the ball rolling, shall we? I have done a few quick calculations on some popular cutting supplements using prices from either Power Nutrition, Bulknutrition, or Bodybuilding.com. Believe it or not there wasn't a huge difference in price between all 3 of them, actually. I'll provide my quick calculation using the average price from these 3 places (sans shipping), and figure out how much it costs per day to use this supp at the recommended or effective dosage. If you have a significantly better price or different dosage that you want to share with us, please list that, and redo the calculation for us with a new number.
I have picked a few thermogenic type cutting supplements that would be ideal for cutting IMO. We can get into others as exotic or odd as you like, simply provide the same breakdown and cost per day (i.e 7-keto, gugg, etc)
1. Nutrex Lipo-6 Effective dose = 6 caps daily 120caps/bottle 20 day supply
The average price is about $27. So 20 days for $27 = 27/20 = $1.35 daily
2. SAN Tight! Effective dose = 3 caps daily 60 caps/bottle 20 days supply
The average price is about $29. So 20 days for $29 = 29/20 = $1.45 daily
3. Ergolean MC Effective dose = 3 caps daily 90 caps/bottle 30 days supply
The average price is about $33. So 30 days for $33 = 33/30 = $1.10 daily
4. VPX Meltdown Effective dose = 6 caps daily 120 caps/bottle 20 day supply
The average price is about $49 So 20 days for $49 = 49/20 = $2.45 daily
5. VPX Clenbutrx Effective dose = 6 caps daily 120 caps/bottle 20 day supply
The average price is about $35. So 20 days for $35 = 35/20 = $1.75 daily
6. Liquid Clenbutrx Effective dose = 10mL daily 240mL/bottle 24 day supply
The average price is about $57. So 24 days for $57 = 57/24 = $2.38 daily
7. AST DymetadrineEFEffective dose = 6 caps daily 100caps/bottle 16 day supply
The average price is about $21. So 16 days for $21 = 21/16 = $1.31 daily
What should be noted is that some of these are ephedra free, or will be soon. I think we all know the ephedra ban will come soon (unfortunately), then we will be forced to deal with "EF" everything
As I've said before, you may have disagreements or different pricing, dosing, quality concerns, whatever. Just be sure to include reasoning in why you would choose one supp over the other. My personal opinion: I thgink Lipo-6 is looking good for now, but I was also surprised at Ergolean MC's price, although I'm doubtful of how effective it will really be. Big shocker: VPX is expensive