- 12-22-2008, 11:06 PM
- 12-23-2008, 01:20 AM
12-24-2008, 04:39 AM
12-24-2008, 06:07 AM
You want low dosed ATD + Rhaponticum carthamoides extract at 5mg/kg of bodyweight. ATD will work the protein synthesis via transcription and the RCE via mRNA translation, which is really the rate limiting step in protein synthesis.
12-24-2008, 05:38 PM
Ive been reading since I originally posted this thread and it seems I would have to supplement a ton of Ecdy and/or Methoxy. Unfortuneately from what Ive been able to dig up the feedback seems mixed as far as effectiveness.
Id rather beat my muscles with some plates than a dead horse.
What kind of gains that you know are related to the Ecdy did you get?
12-24-2008, 09:25 PM
lot of diff. possibilities to stack with the ecdy-
1. I like Mixel's idea on the ATD and RC- should work- or you could use low-dose 6-bromo (like 30-60 mg/day) instead of the ATD....and you could use higher dose wolfsberry- it also has some positive effects on mRNA transcription
2. Drive/RPM/Ecdy would stack really well with this
3. Drive/IGF-2/Ecdy would stack even better
4. Drive/IGF-2/Nettle root 60%/Neovar/Ecdy would be really good as well
Dirk Tanis, BA, MSci
Chief Operating Officer, Applied Nutriceuticals
12-24-2008, 09:29 PM
I rather enjoyed XF/Drive/Ecdy. Ecdy/Testofen/Forskolin would be interesting and inexpensive.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
12-25-2008, 12:43 AM
12-30-2008, 07:16 AM
12-30-2008, 01:31 PM
01-02-2009, 07:10 AM
01-02-2009, 02:31 PM
Beta Ecdysterone is a joke, save your money, unless you take a bottle a day you won't get any noticeable effect from using it. Just another re introduction of an ingredient that was dead 5 years ago and still delivers nothing!!!
Can anyone honestly tell me that they have made any changes in their physique by simply using beta ecdysterone???
01-03-2009, 05:38 PM
I can honestly say I have seen and felt differences. It was overhyped and underdosed for years, but times have changed now.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
01-06-2009, 10:27 PM
01-07-2009, 06:09 AM
One is Mass Pro Synthagen, the other Progenadrex...
01-07-2009, 01:26 PM
Ecdy only produces good gains if your protein intake is high. I received noticeable gains from Ecdy, HMB, and Leucine with my protein intake at 1.5g per lb of bodyweight.
01-07-2009, 07:28 PM
08-20-2016, 03:23 PM
08-20-2016, 03:56 PM
That stands is STARK contrast to what I and many,many others have noticed (in over 20 years of working with the compound, I might add). I've used it orally, sublingually, transdermal and yes... pinned it (RCE... Thermolife's material, made by a well known chemist). You may be confusing it with cheap CV, which I suggest getting a C of A/HPLC (NOT UV tested).
RCE is what you want (or a sapogenin analog, like Laxogenin/Anabolica pictured) or Turkesterone (attached). You may also find it interesting to know there are now 487 identified Ecdysteroids, and those 3 aren't the only ones that work... ecdybase.org). But maybe you were confused by the studies?
Here are but a sampling...
LOW DOSES PROMOTE MUSCLE BUILDING
CURB GROWTH OF FAT TISSUE
YOUNGER SKIN AND MORE MUSCLE
STIMULATES EPO FORMATION
STRONG ENOUGH TO PUT IT ON DOPING LIST
Shall I go on?
Synthagen leverages every scrap of research and practical experience I have with the compound(s) That covers 20+ years of Ecdy/Sapogenin Analogs and various other, lesser know Ecdysteroids..
Even in skeptics, like you...
08-20-2016, 04:22 PM
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