Estrogen blockers

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  1. Estrogen blockers


    im looking to lower estrogen, but i dont wanna completely destroy it, as it is necessary for growth and i shed like crazy when i dont have enough, anything that will lower it but not to far??


  2. OTC, R&D chem, Rx, ??? Which are you willing to use and have access to?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by just93 View Post
    im looking to lower estrogen, but i dont wanna completely destroy it, as it is necessary for growth and i shed like crazy when i dont have enough, anything that will lower it but not to far??
    anything but an ATD. the newest ones are anything with 6-bromo in it and transresveratrol has some AI properties. also a tried and true product is 6-oxo, very cheap in bulk powder

  4. OTC, and 6-oxo made my hair fall out, i tried it a few times a while back, im interested are there any products with both reversitol and 6 bromo??

  5. Quote Originally Posted by just93 View Post
    OTC, and 6-oxo made my hair fall out, i tried it a few times a while back, im interested are there any products with both reversitol and 6 bromo??
    i don't think so. pretty sure bromo is more than enough. would be kind of overkill for both

  6. I'd try something like Hyperdrol X2.

  7. hmmmm, how low of a dose can i go while still seeing results, i just dont want something heavy

  8. have you had your estrogen levels tested? if so why are you wanting to lower them?

    too low estrogen will make your joints creak. ok I dont have time to post because I have to sell a 4500 $$ Rolex watch right now, but search some articles Patrick Arnold wrote on estrogen control how its not needed and is actually beneficial for growth. The only reason you need to lower estrogen is if ranges far out of normal ranges(too high) (which too much bodyfat can cause, eating too much of certain foods cause over a long period of time that lower estro or coming off a cycle that estogenic) I know that ll help do some searching.
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  9. here is why i want one, last time i went and got blood work done, estro was above normal, but not much, now ever since i had pubertal gyno, my nipples have been sore and sensitive, well just recently i have noticed it has worsened, it hurt more, and when i get blood drawn i pass out so getting blood work all the time is a pain in the a$$, and my doctor is stupid and doesnt believe that they are sore....(retard)

    so i wanted to make the "normal", not to low/not to high, so i was wondering if there is anything that would help this, and i am thinking about running divanil (divanex or testabolan v2) and, i have read that raises estro levels aswell as free up test......so i would need it for there aswell

  10. Quote Originally Posted by just93 View Post
    here is why i want one, last time i went and got blood work done, estro was above normal, but not much, now ever since i had pubertal gyno, my nipples have been sore and sensitive, well just recently i have noticed it has worsened, it hurt more, and when i get blood drawn i pass out so getting blood work all the time is a pain in the a$$, and my doctor is stupid and doesnt believe that they are sore....(retard)

    so i wanted to make the "normal", not to low/not to high, so i was wondering if there is anything that would help this, and i am thinking about running divanil (divanex or testabolan v2) and, i have read that raises estro levels aswell as free up test......so i would need it for there aswell

    okay Im helping you out...

    get a Doctors prescription Nizoral 2 % for your hair. If you cant get it get 1 % sold in wal-mart, kroger etc it has been proven to be AS EFFECTIVE AS ROGAINE.(pubmed) you want to do this to block the dht in yur scalp because those prone to MPB testosterone converts to dht whenever testosterone is raised so is dht. thats the first thing you want to do to save your hair get a dht blocker.

    6-oxo reduces estrogen(not too a great degree that it'll kill your joints, it does the job though) and raises testosterone . Have you had your estrogen levels(as for that matter test levels) tested after taking 6-oxo?

    if not id get them tested again. it took me alot of research to figure all this out you should learn it yourself so you understand exactly how it works.
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  11. novedex XT?



    bahahahah i made a funny

  12. yah i ran that after my estro levels were checked, i will try to get an appointment with the doc. it will probably be a while as every one is sick in my town...........but yah, should i buy the caps of 6-oxo from NP or the 1 gram powder??

    whats a good dose that isnt high?

  13. if you haven't had a test from the time you started nolvedex xt I'm sure your levels are low or very low using gaspari's novledex xt.I'd wait in till the test results are back than go from there. remember nolvedex xt drops estrogen so low and then estrogen climbs back up....so it depends on how long since you've done nolvedex for estrogen levels to stabilize. I'd say a month or two after your done(not messing with any other hormonal s) and to be sure two-three months after using nolvedex xt(or any estrogen inhibitor)

    most normal healthy men don't have to worry about htr(including lower estrogen ) in till forty - fifty years old ,when test starts dropping off bigtime. Most guys freak and think they have bitch tits when in fact its just an extra amount of fat. lose the fat. the more fat you have the more puff you'll carry in your chest. (and yes too much fat causes estrogen levels to go up)
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by just93 View Post
    hmmmm, how low of a dose can i go while still seeing results, i just dont want something heavy

    I did 2 a day of hyperdrolx2 on Mon - Sat with good resuls, better libido and more veiny due to lower water retention.

    If you follow it like this one bottle runs 9 weeks

  15. Maybe try some of iforces resveratrol it has a interesting ingredient profile

  16. Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    if you haven't had a test from the time you started nolvedex xt I'm sure your levels are low or very low using gaspari's novledex xt.I'd wait in till the test results are back than go from there. remember nolvedex xt drops estrogen so low and then estrogen climbs back up....so it depends on how long since you've done nolvedex for estrogen levels to stabilize. I'd say a month or two after your done(not messing with any other hormonal s) and to be sure two-three months after using nolvedex xt(or any estrogen inhibitor)

    most normal healthy men don't have to worry about htr(including lower estrogen ) in till forty - fifty years old ,when test starts dropping off bigtime. Most guys freak and think they have bitch tits when in fact its just an extra amount of fat. lose the fat. the more fat you have the more puff you'll carry in your chest. (and yes too much fat causes estrogen levels to go up)
    are you talking about gaspari novedex xt or nolvedex being the one used to reduce estrogen in cancer patients?

  17. Idont follow this argument about 6 oxo .can anyone explain my point is this --- if using an AI like 6 oxo reduces e and produces more test, then that test has the potential to produce more estrogen , the 6 oxo lowers that , produces more test so more e.It seems to be a vicious circle .Isnt a new base line being produced for both test and e which has been elevated above that it was before supplementing with 6 oxo?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by sogone2day View Post
    Maybe try some of iforces resveratrol it has a interesting ingredient profile
    resveratrol is pointless to take orally

  19. Quote Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    Idont follow this argument about 6 oxo .can anyone explain my point is this --- if using an AI like 6 oxo reduces e and produces more test, then that test has the potential to produce more estrogen , the 6 oxo lowers that , produces more test so more e.It seems to be a vicious circle .Isnt a new base line being produced for both test and e which has been elevated above that it was before supplementing with 6 oxo?
    it's because it's natural and the 6-oxo is an AI which keeps levels down. it's not going to raise test a ridiculous amount so you don't have to worry about that. people take AI's during cycle for very androgenic compounds to keep estrogen down. it's not like the raise in test will outpower the 6-oxo.

  20. just get some 6-bromo, its used more to control estrogen and not permanantly get rid of it. nolvadex xt and any other ATD is overkill. u can use it after PH's and roids but just to lower estrogen it's too much. unless you just use a very low dose.

  21. yah, im gunna do hyperdrol x2 and divanex from NP, and the statement i made above is about 6-oxo i have never used nolvadex xt or Novedex...only clomid and 6-oxo....but any way how does my stack sound??

  22. i was gonna say get activate extreme but i've looked on 2 sites and it says discontinued... anybody know anyhting about that. still available on nutra, but divanex is cheaper. guess if money isn't an issue i'd say go with the activate

  23. the company name changed...i think BB might have it

  24. AIFM works great!

  25. whats that??

    and what about dermacrine, is the revseritrol effective as a transdermal??
    how would dermacrine and Arachidonic Acid compare to the stack i listed above??

  26. Quote Originally Posted by jsp0785 View Post
    resveratrol is pointless to take orally

    It also has 6bromo, atd, i3c, and Long jack

  27. Quote Originally Posted by just93 View Post
    yah, im gunna do hyperdrol x2 and divanex from NP, and the statement i made above is about 6-oxo i have never used nolvadex xt or Novedex...only clomid and 6-oxo....but any way how does my stack sound??
    If you are worried about estro levels dipping too low, pick one or the other, not both. You don't always need to STACK!!! (That was me yelling at EVERYONE out there!!!)

    HX2 is potent. If you're that concerned, rather than half or quarter dosing it, use aPCT instead. Has the 6-bromo, but is formulated to be more gradual for PCT purposes. It would fit your needs to a "T".

    (And I know T. My name starts with T!!)
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    -Independent due to lies that hurt my family. Loyal to myself and my Bro's.

  28. allright, still havent decided but will def. keep that in mind,

  29. Quote Originally Posted by jsp0785 View Post
    resveratrol is pointless to take orally

    I dont think Anabolic Innovations would agree with you on that.(see their Stoked product) Quercetin & Piperine have been included to enhance absorption and bioavailability

  30. Quote Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    I dont think Anabolic Innovations would agree with you on that.(see their Stoked product) Quercetin & Piperine have been included to enhance absorption and bioavailability
    i know they don't but how much does that actually help with absorption. does it make it go from like 5% to 10% or like 5% to 90%?
  

  
 

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