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I just got in some free samples of RPM and Drive. what do you guys think of it and what do you like about it.
I personally prefer RPM over Drive.I just got in some free samples of RPM and Drive. what do you guys think of it and what do you like about it.
You only need to dose RPM ONCE daily.they are great products. i take both together. since rpn has stims i does it higher on my first dose daily then reduced and higher on the drive pre w/o.
combine this with ifg2 and you got a sound stack!
If you expecting RPM to give you "stimulant like" effects, then you would be disappointed. Although increasing mental alertness and focus, RPM provides a SMOOTH energy, not the jittery "stimulant" energy associated with other caffeine products.I like RPM alright, haven't tried drive. The RPM makes me horny as hell, but as far as a stimulant effect, not so much. I'm highly caffeine tolerant, though. I actually take it before work to get me a little revved up and to help me focus. I likely won't be getting it again, though, it just isn't worth it for my needs.
AM is probably the right place to be to find out more about the RPM/Drive stack- there are literally dozens of logs over here from the last 1.5 years that the stack has been on the market- I think just about half of AM has tried the RPM/Drive or currently uses itI just got in some free samples of RPM and Drive. what do you guys think of it and what do you like about it.
of course it was- can't win them allRPM was favorable for energy, though vascularity, 'pumps' and the other associated effects were non-existent for me. While I enjoyed my bottle I received in a trade, the energy was somewhat 'jittery' - so to speak - and I would not go as far as to purchase the product.
Drive, on the other hand, elicited no effects whatsoever for me - unfortunately. I used four bottles, going as high as 9 caps/day, and saw nothing in the way of tangible results.
Just my experience.
It took four bottles to figure out you didn't like it? Are you a slow learner? Your statement reeks. I can't imagine anyone saying to themselves, "The first three bottles didn't work, but maybe just ONE more and I'll feel something...":duel:RPM was favorable for energy, though vascularity, 'pumps' and the other associated effects were non-existent for me. While I enjoyed my bottle I received in a trade, the energy was somewhat 'jittery' - so to speak - and I would not go as far as to purchase the product.
Drive, on the other hand, elicited no effects whatsoever for me - unfortunately. I used four bottles, going as high as 9 caps/day, and saw nothing in the way of tangible results.
Just my experience.
I will refrain from addressing the implied Ad Hominem attacks on USP Labs; any response to those comments makes us both look juvenile, unprofessional, and foolish, and it is better left only one of us appears so.It took four bottles to figure out you didn't like it? Are you a slow learner? Your statement reeks. I can't imagine anyone saying to themselves, "The first three bottles didn't work, but maybe just ONE more and I'll feel something...":duel:
With that being said, if you do any endurance-related exercise at all I struggle with the notion you'd feel nothing given the dose you quote. Although we've observed variances in the intensity and the amount of time to take effect, until your post I've yet to hear of a complete "non-responder". Although it is obviously possible, the proof is in the pudding - the better the product is, the lower the probability is of a "non-response" occurring - which is why we've seen virtually no complaints. If I see a lot of "non-responders" to a product, it's becomes apparent that it is moreso an excuse for a marginal product than it is of, say, "improper dosing protocol".:lol:
Agree. They are exponentially better when stacked. Separately, I found them awesome, but combined, they produced some of the most impressive results of any natural anabolics. The last time I used them, I did an RPM/Drive/IGF-2 stack. Great stuff!Highly recommend both...
4 Bottles: 110 X 4 = 440 / 9 = ~49 days. So what was it, 24 or 49 days?I will refrain from addressing the implied Ad Hominem attacks on USP Labs; any response to those comments makes us both look juvenile, unprofessional, and foolish, and it is better left only one of us appears so.
I also find it disappointing, as a company owner, you respond to an individual in this particular manner. I often find Applied Nutraceuticals representatives relaying negative personal commentary on USP Labs' products but, assume it is just that: personal commentary, unrelated to prior connections between USP Labs and Applied Nutraceuticals. Apparently, you have decided not to address me with the same respect. Unfortunate.
At any rate, I went through four bottles as they were from a trade, free of charge[as I said above in my original post]. If you also reread my post, I said I was dosing at 9 capsules per day. 220/9 = 24.4 days. I am confused as to why you feel giving a free product 24 days of leniency before making a final decision is so strange? I increased the dosage assuming the effects were dose-dependent and temporal - that is, increasing with dosage and time. For myself, neither were the case.
In terms of individuals not eliciting the effects expected from Drive, I have seen several such mentions; though, I would say a positive response is in the majority. This was simply not my experience. Why you chose to infer a universally condemning remark from my personal commentary is beyond me. Hopefully in the future you address potential customers with more respect and humility!
If you assume affiliations produce 'bullshit' responses, that speaks more to your business ethics than it does to mine.4 Bottles: 110 X 4 = 440 / 9 = ~49 days. So what was it, 24 or 49 days?
I'm simply stating your comment pegged the needle on my BS meter, especially given your affiliation. Despite the elequence of your response, it still stinks of bull. Nothing more, nothing less.
Respectfully and humbly,
Don
I'm not saying affiliations produce BS responses. Affiliations DO, however make you question the poster's ability to be objective and therefore it is only logigical to scutinize any negative comments moreso than someone else's. You even contradict yourself with your math, as it would be logical for any person to assume that if you actually DID take 4 bottles you'd know if you were on for 24 or 49 days.If you assume affiliations produce 'bullshit' responses, that speaks more to your business ethics than it does to mine.
As I said, this is quite an unfortunate manner for a company owner to conduct himself in!
It was a simple mistake though, one that you will no doubt use to further justify your unprofessional behavior here!I'm not saying affiliations produce BS responses. Affiliations DO, however make you question the poster's ability to be objective and therefore it is only logigical to scutinize any negative comments moreso than someone else's. You even contradict yourself with your math, as it would be logical for any person to assume that if you actually DID take 4 bottles you'd know if you were on for 24 or 49 days.
I'm not sure how any of this is unfortunate conduct, but I'm through posting on this topic. I stand where I stand.
Fair enough- and as for tension- I don't have any ill will towards any company on this board- not my style (for anyone who knows me off the boards, or even on)....Not for nothing, but I read Mullet's comment... re-read it... re-read the whole thread a few times... etc. I don't think there was anything wrong with his opinions on the product. I personally like RPM a lot, especially at just one cap per day and I think Drive has some good stuff in there. Whatever tension exists between AN and USP, maybe Mullet giving an opinion that wasn't really 'thumbs up' may have been the tip of the iceberg.
Believe me, I'm not an advocate for USP, hahaha, but I think Mullet was kinda disrespected for no reason in 'this' thread.
I'm a big fan of Camphibolic and the formula you guys have 'Lipotrophin PM'. Good stuff indeed.Fair enough- and as for tension- I don't have any ill will towards any company on this board- not my style (for anyone who knows me off the boards, or even on)....
Hell, I wish Jacob and Mullet the best- USP Labs was a company that I founded with Jacob, and he has done an exceptional job, even after I went out to pursue other projects.
So while I think the review was a little biased given the history of our two companies- plus the fact that it managed to be coincidentally placed in a Drive/RPM thread on the same week that his company came out with a competing product- I acknowledge that there are non-responders to every product, and will give Mullet the benefit of the doubt if he indeed is one of them......
I agree. Nothing against USP and no reason to at least for me. They have done nothing but try to help me out.Man, this thread to a different turn...
I respect Mullet's review, as well as all the AN guys/girls opinion.
This USP vs. AN thing is getting old. Both are top notch companies that each bring innovation to the front.
RPM - great energy and focus, but no pumps. I like it for a quick pick me up.
DRIVE - no energy; great libido boost after an extended run.
Stacked together - great for those who would like to keep it natural while reaping the benefits of Icariin and Forslean over time.
This is becoming a little silly, I must say.So while I think the review was a little biased given the history of our two companies- plus the fact that it managed to be coincidentally placed in a Drive/RPM thread on the same week that his company came out with a competing product- I acknowledge that there are non-responders to every product, and will give Mullet the benefit of the doubt if he indeed is one of them......
I do have to say that drive can't fairly be judged by a sample, unless the sample is at least 2 weeks at 5-6 caps/day..... which is not a realistic free sample size. I've used it on and off since it came out, and I still don't notice the postiive effects till at least day 8 or so.I got a free samples but I didnt like either, didnt do much for me.
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