- 12-04-2008, 09:46 AM
- 12-04-2008, 10:00 AM
much better and cheaper options out there. Those two products will help because of the creatine content in both of them. I would just buy the basics and a blender for homebrew shakes if you want to gain. So...
after those then you can add on preworkout stuff.
- 12-04-2008, 10:03 AM
before anyone flames you. I have actually used nano vapor several times ,and it ussually has me tired out ,and crashing before i am done with the weights. then i do half hearted cardio. if you like it then continue using it if you havent used it maybe look in to myogenix hypershock it leaves me hyped for hours. i would suggest looking in to some logs on anabolic halo if thats what you speak of ,and make sure its not abunch of 12 year olds saying it the greatest thing on earth. personally i have used cell mass, 2.1.1 , after shock and anabolic o.d. out of those 2.1.1 and after shock were the best. that stuff is expensive at gnc so make sure its what your looking for before you hunker down 100 bucks or more. and watch out for all the flamers on every thread. sometimes you have to read between the lines to find any real info on muscle tech products on here. i personally think you would be better of going with another company pre and post but that is my opinion.
12-04-2008, 10:04 AM
what brands if there are cheaper options or better options....im just looking for something for energy for preworkout and a quick post workout shake for recovery
12-04-2008, 10:06 AM
Cheaper and better products out there bud.
"If you're truly hungry for primal muscle size and demonic workout intensity, take a hit of naNO VAPOR and experience supernatural results that you have to see to believe."
some of their write ups are just hilarious
“We are what we repeatedly do. Therefore, excellence is not an act, but a habit.”
12-04-2008, 10:08 AM
g train is right 500g of creatine is cheap ,and effective as well. caffiene and arginine are also inexpensive bulk. also dosent the servings size on halo only last 15 days. at two scoops per workout nano is the same way. it just dosent seem cost effective.
12-04-2008, 10:15 AM
ya thats a major problem about this site its pretty biased around certain products.........i have used NOxplode and i loved it i could workout for hours and it actually help me burn fat......im just sick of the taste it literally makes me gag so thats why i said vapor but ill check into those other ones.
12-04-2008, 10:16 AM
12-04-2008, 10:23 AM
optimum nutrition makes 2.1.1 if noxplod makes you gag then so will nano check out orange myogenix hyper shock it taste great and works great
12-04-2008, 11:00 AM
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12-04-2008, 08:42 PM
Did you say "hammer-milling!!!!!?" WTF is that?!!! IM IN!!
Keep an eye out for Muscle techs new line of "the muscle asylum project" or whatever it is, more crap in different labelling.
White flood by controlled labs
purple wraath by controlled labs
NO shotgun by VPX
Size-on by gaspari
Steeledge by AEN
Noz full throttle by nutrabolics
plasma jet by gaspari
Anadraulic state by Lg sciences
Hyperdrol x-2 by AX
Phytotestosterone by primordial performance
Poseidon by nimbus nutrition
Intra aid, storm - Universal
Liver tabs - universal
animal test - universal
Diesel test hardcore - get diesel
JP8 - get diesel
Neovar - applied neutriceuticals (Ap)
drive - Ap
X - factor - molecular nutrition
Ragnarock - Millennium Sport Technologies
Blast - nimbus nutrition
Swell - nimbus nutrition
Leviathan reloaded, anaboloc edge - Palo alto labs
Sustain alpha , endoamp - primordial performance
Prime, p-slin - USP labs
These are just SOME of your alternatives that are WAAAY better than muscle-tech. Also check out nutraplanet bulk caps and powders. good day.
12-04-2008, 09:29 PM
12-04-2008, 10:31 PM
12-04-2008, 11:45 PM
12-05-2008, 11:01 AM
12-05-2008, 11:48 AM
12-05-2008, 12:33 PM
I do know that their products are expensive but you have to give them credit for backing Bodybuilding. They pretty much sponser everything that has to do with Bodybuilding. They also have a pretty good athlete rep for themselves.
And who know there might be others.
12-05-2008, 01:40 PM
12-05-2008, 10:44 PM
12-06-2008, 01:32 AM
check it out.
grab a bottle of RPM and Neovar Recomped, both my applied nutriceuticals.
RPM is a pre workout boost. not only will it give you drive, focus, and energy, youll see a nice boost in aggression, and you WILL see nice jumps in strength and libido. follow the dosing instructions on the label.
NEOVAR: RECOMPED is a creatine put out by AN. it contains the tried and true creatine monohydrate, and no fancy esters or anything like that. there are countless studies to back it and youll be sure to notice strength and recovery increases. it also has a nutrient partitioner aspect to it. not only does this help with the absorption and uptake of te creatine, it allows for super saturation of glycogen with your muscles. meaning you have more cellular energy for your muscles, meaning increase in strength and endurance. plus you may notice a leaning out effect, as i am experiencing right now, despite being on a bulk. you take a few caps pre workout with carbs like oats or WMS, and a few caps post workout with carbs like oats or WMS. amazing pumps, good strength and size gains, and noticeable all day pump.
best part, RPM is 30 bucks at nutra, possibly cheaper if you look around more, and neovar is about 27 or 28 bucks. and both bottles will last you like 30 days or more, depending on how you dose them, and how much you weigh.
hope this helps.
12-06-2008, 09:25 AM
12-06-2008, 09:12 PM
all i gotta say is that i am impressed thta no1 flamed this guy for asking for legitamate help
it makes me feel all the better about being on this bored as more and more people jumped in to offer their help
to the thread starter control labs makes a product called white flood in pill form which is great and if you are like me and cant stand pre w/o drinks then it will be good for you
12-06-2008, 10:18 PM
u mean if i take "laboratory grade dextrose" and creatine aka Cell Tech my arms wont grow to 22'' and I wont become a pro cause thats what I was led to believe o man such BS
12-06-2008, 11:05 PM
12-06-2008, 11:13 PM
You dont know sweet until you tasted sour and i thank muscletech for the sour i tasted with cell-tech, the bathroom trips and my empty wallet.
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