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I would like to hear some opinions on appetite suppressants...
Thanks in advance.
-KC
Thanks in advance.
-KC
Lean Xtreme. Hands down. NOTHING else has EVER suppressed my appetite. And this did!I would like to hear some opinions on appetite suppressants...
Thanks in advance.
-KC
food high in fiber and low on GI scaleI would like to hear some opinions on appetite suppressants...
Thanks in advance.
-KC
definatelyECA is the best appetite suppression IMO.
Nothing beats my DECAY stackI like EC, Shred Matrix or Recreate
except when u die of a heart attack because of all the caffeine ephedrine and yohimbeNothing beats my DECAY stack
Then you'll lose weight while you decompose 6 feet under. Hence 'DECAY'except when u die of a heart attack because of all the caffeine ephedrine and yohimbe
Word. Geranium is the best thing for appetite suppression.1,3 dimethylamylamine 30mg at wake up and 30 mg 5 hours later
Do you take this with anything else? I've tried 60mg on it's own and haven't noticed much..1,3 dimethylamylamine 30mg at wake up and 30 mg 5 hours later
Other then a sugar free Redbull or two not really. It's not the usual stim buzz or whatever it's more of a focused on what you are doing feeling but it destroys appetite.Do you take this with anything else? I've tried 60mg on it's own and haven't noticed much..
For appetite suppression, mood, energy, nothing has beaten occassional PEA + l-dep for me.
My friend Pata320 is using Phenadrine and at night he's always starving... He ends up eating Burger King and Crispy Creme every night. He'll literally HAVE TO leave the computer and get a junk food fix. lol. So, thumbs down for Phenadrine suppressing appetiteAs someone whose appetite is usually huge, I have lots of trouble with finding good suppressants.
I have found the original Venom to crush my appetite. However, the formulation is no longer sold. I've also found that it recurrently does something to my immune system (I am much more prone to pharyngitis, and will get pharyngitis, like clockwork, after one week of continual use of Venom).
Ephedrine also really works for me, but only for a couple hours at a time. The problem though is all the side effects (edginess causing my personality to change, the crash afterwards, etc). Ephedrine > ephedra, as ephedra was REALLY a dirty stimulant feeling.
I'm trying phenadrine for appetite now, will let you know how it works out. I classically haven't done well with 1,3 dimethylamylamine for appetite or for the crash afterwards. I also will say that Lean Extreme might work for some, but I never felt anything from it regarding appetite.
I also have found that making cups and cups of green tea throughout the day really helps. It doesn't jack me up stimulant-wise, it just for some reason really satiates my appetite. I'm brewing my own Dragonwell green tea, thats the only kind I've found to decrease my appetite.
green tea 98% induces CCK, which kills the appetiteI would like to hear some opinions on appetite suppressants...
Thanks in advance.
-KC
green tea 98% induces CCK, which kills the appetite
caffeine
tyrosine
phenylalanine
cocoa extract
ephedra
water
fibrous carbs
HCA
5-HTP
Herion, Cocaine and Alcohol? They prolly kill you appetite but be counter productive.What is everyone's opinion on:
-HCA
-Glucomannan
I've only used it 1x so far, will be using it again today, but I'm using it more of a study-aid than for fatloss or workout stim.My friend Pata320 is using Phenadrine and at night he's always starving... He ends up eating Burger King and Crispy Creme every night. He'll literally HAVE TO leave the computer and get a junk food fix. lol. So, thumbs down for Phenadrine suppressing appetite
Is phenadrine only made by APS?I've only used it 1x so far, will be using it again today, but I'm using it more of a study-aid than for fatloss or workout stim.
I hear what you said though, the first night after I came off it I definitely had a crazy appetite (but I also just got back from the gym)...its weird, my appetite problems have to do with the amount I eat and with the stuff I eat.
We'll see about phenadrine, need more time to evaluate.
Is phenadrine only made by APS?
The ingredient phenylethylamine....is it basically the same as NP's PEA?
How would you describe the feeling?Yes, Phenylethylamine = PEA.
NP's PEA is great.
What's even greater, is their combo of Hordenine / PEA. The effects are greater and longer lasting, especially when combined with a stim. PEA on it's own really won't do much for very long, it has a very short half life. You may have to experiment with doses too. It also doesn't hurt to add in a choline source to your supplements when using cholinergenic type supps.
Definitely interesting stuff. He likes it, but when it wears off, he'll choke down some kinda XL value meal and 12 donuts.I've only used it 1x so far, will be using it again today, but I'm using it more of a study-aid than for fatloss or workout stim.
I hear what you said though, the first night after I came off it I definitely had a crazy appetite (but I also just got back from the gym)...its weird, my appetite problems have to do with the amount I eat and with the stuff I eat.
We'll see about phenadrine, need more time to evaluate.
Definitely interesting stuff. He likes it, but when it wears off, he'll choke down some kinda XL value meal and 12 donuts.
The PEA in Phenadrine is methylated twice. Big difference. Regular PEA sucks ass for any purpose. It's pure so even people have insufflated it and say it feels like shotty coke, but with a more horrible crash.
Hahaha... Yeah... I forgot how I felt on Deprenyl with that long @$$ half life!Ahh I didn't notice that it was methylated in Phenadrine.
I take 2-3 grams of regular PEA, with 5-10mg of deprenyl, and to me it is much better than cola haha... It's more like a combination of ecstasy and cola, with no crash..Intense for maybe 1 hour, bit more.. I only do this occassionally, but it's great, and really clean. I feel great when it wears off, and still focused but also in a positive mood. I think this type of dose is far greater than what's needed for appetite suppression though. I posted a mini-article about this maybe a few months ago, in the summer..about the recreational use of high dose PEA or with an MAO-B inhibitor.
PEA really has to be taken alongside some sort of MAO-B inhibitor for you to notice any effects from it.
100-200 mg provigil plus 2-3 grams PEA will do the same thing- I stumbled on this one by accident- it was actually kinda scary at first- but once it evened out, was exactly what you are describing- I would only do it once in a while thoAhh I didn't notice that it was methylated in Phenadrine.
I take 2-3 grams of regular PEA, with 5-10mg of deprenyl, and to me it is much better than cola haha... It's more like a combination of ecstasy and cola, with no crash..Intense for maybe 1 hour, bit more.. I only do this occassionally, but it's great, and really clean. I feel great when it wears off, and still focused but also in a positive mood. I think this type of dose is far greater than what's needed for appetite suppression though. I posted a mini-article about this maybe a few months ago, in the summer..about the recreational use of high dose PEA or with an MAO-B inhibitor.
PEA really has to be taken alongside some sort of MAO-B inhibitor for you to notice any effects from it.
Modanifil makes you forget what appetite is. A friend of mine took one dose and couldnt eat for 24+ hours haha however its not a supplement and nothing to play with.....or maybe it is haha
Ephedrine/Caffiene has always worked for me.
Herion, Cocaine and Alcohol? They prolly kill you appetite but be counter productive.
No prob, any time.Just wanted to offer my sincere thanks to futurepilot for the much needed 110 neg rep points for participating in a small imo semiproductive fashion in this thread. Thanks man you're tops.
Simple and true..will power
Take a look at a product called PGX from Natural Factors. Its a mix of 3 different fibers that swell when mixed with water to give you that full feeling. Plus you get all the goodness of fiber...
I can't post external links so do a google search using the terms PGX and slimstyles...
I tried hoodia and all kinds of other things.. this thing works plus you can buy it at Costco
Happy training
Normally I don't like getting baited by nitwits but... you ignore the two posts I made prior to the clear joke and quote that. Again, my friend, well done. When you go to bed tonight you can pat yourself on the back for making the anabolicminds forum as well as the internet as a whole a safer place for people fearing acronym jokes.No prob, any time.
I tried figuring out what CYP subfamily Stablon is metabolized by and came across some rat study from the 90s, but it measured chromosomal binding of tianeptine to the hepatocyte chromosomes...and I'm not exactly sure what this means in regards to metabolism. If it is what I think it is, tianeptine is via the 3A4 subtype.:goodpost:
Thanks for the info.
I am assuming that modafinil and stablon would not be a good mix then. Would be my main concern. Could also effect trazodone in a bad way.
Sorry, didn't mean to take this convo into the OTC realm
I agree somewhat...but I still want one anywaysDude you dont need an app depressor...everytime you go to have a snack or an unplanned meal...go look in the mirror and ask yourself what you want to look like
yea- moda is good stuff, esp. for add- only problem is you forget to eat when you are on it, and when it wears off- you literally become so ravenously hungry that you will end up back-loading all of your calories into a 3 hour span (for me, after work)Modanifil makes you forget what appetite is. A friend of mine took one dose and couldnt eat for 24+ hours haha however its not a supplement and nothing to play with.....or maybe it is haha
Ephedrine/Caffiene has always worked for me.