yah, i gave tren a little run, i didnt like for the reason i used it wrong, i used it on a bulk, and it is more for a cut/strength not bulk/mass.....
i gave HAVOC a try and got shutdown pretty bad, gained 8 lbs, kept it all. i dont like messin with hormones that much yah know??
and the 1-T stuff looks cool, im not going to give that a try for a while, i want to see some logs on it,,,,,,,,,,and no prob, im just happy i got you to leave BB.com i hate that place, there are some real a$$holes there, besides this place is cooler/cheaper
thats all i have to offer for hormonal stuff dude, hope it helps, there are some veterans around here that im sure will chim in, very helpful people on this ever expanding board