T-bol or Activate Xtreme?

[MaxLOL]

I am going to buy one of these VERY SOON! I am actually resisting the urge to get T-bol now. I am impressed with their reps and am only hesitating because I have heard so much commotion about Activate Xtreme? Which would you choose and why?

As far as dosing I have been told that optimal dosing is 3x3 for two bottles (t-bol)... this correct?

[andrew732]

I would go with stoked because of the libido boost, aggresion, and anti-estrogenic compunds in it, do not get me wrong the other two compunds are solid as well. Can not go wrong with either picks.

[delsolrob]

what is it that you're looking to get out of the product?

[poison]

T-Bol? Are you freakin kidding me? Underdosed crap, there. ACtivate is known and proven with blood tests to work.

Also Diesel Test, Stoked, and RPM/Drive would all pimp-slap T-Bol in the effectiveness dept.

[MaxLOL]

what is it that you're looking to get out of the product?

I am lean bulking right now.

T-Bol? Are you freakin kidding me? Underdosed crap, there. ACtivate is known and proven with blood tests to work.

Also Diesel Test, Stoked, and RPM/Drive would all pimp-slap T-Bol in the effectiveness dept.

I didn't mean to strike a nerve. I will add I have never used a test booster before. Can you expand on why exactly you think that AX is better?

[JaredGalloway]

If u search EVERY forum not just this one...even though AM is the best...you will find that AX has more logs, reviews, and studies proving its efectiveness...all we have for t-bol is an underdosed kitchen sink formula...agreed t-bol has proven ingredients in it but u would have to double dose for it to be effective...
1. Get some DTH...Has everything u would want
2. Stoked, Divanex...
3. There are countless possibilities here...just search

[delsolrob]

If u search EVERY forum not just this one...even though AM is the best...you will find that AX has more logs, reviews, and studies proving its efectiveness...all we have for t-bol is an underdosed kitchen sink formula...agreed t-bol has proven ingredients in it but u would have to double dose for it to be effective...
1. Get some DTH...Has everything u would want
2. Stoked, Divanex...
3. There are countless possibilities here...just search

JG is very right, t-bol has some great ingredients...but not effectively dosed.

Anabolic Exteme has a great product line and history, thermolife has been another company that has made some rediculous claims and has not provided the products to back up those claims.

you will find that there are pleanty of logs for AX, stoked, and DTH because those are the products that we have trust in.

my favorite stack would be stoked and AX...I also like to throw in RPM pre workout.

[MentalTwitch]

Real T-bol would rape any of the above...haha

I say Diesel Test.

PS- Just bulk, dont worry about being "clean" with it, looks like you have room to grow.

[poison]

I am lean bulking right now.

I didn't mean to strike a nerve. I will add I have never used a test booster before. Can you expand on why exactly you think that AX is better?

Proven amounts of proven ingredients with blood tests to back it up. What more do you need.

[madchemist]

Proven amounts of proven ingredients with blood tests to back it up. What more do you need.

Blood work from T-Bol is readily available.

You have no idea what "amounts" are in AX, only speculation, and taking the "good bro" word of their reps.

Whereas the exact amounts are listed in a non-proprietary list on every bottle of T-Bol.

T-Bol not underdosed by any stretch of the imagination.

In fact, T-BOL is one of the only "test boosters" that raise free test AND total testosterone simultaneously, attributed to Tribulus Alatus which is not seen in any other product.

[nunes]

Blood work from T-Bol is readily available.

You have no idea what "amounts" are in AX, only speculation, and taking the "good bro" word of their reps.

Whereas the exact amounts are listed in a non-proprietary list on every bottle of T-Bol.

T-Bol not underdosed by any stretch of the imagination.

In fact, T-BOL is one of the only "test boosters" that raise free test AND total testosterone simultaneously, attributed to Tribulus Alatus which is not seen in any other product.

agreed, i`m using t-bol for 3 days and I can feel that the product works, morning wood and aggression, for personal experience my vote goes to t-bol

[delsolrob]

Blood work from T-Bol is readily available.

You have no idea what "amounts" are in AX, only speculation, and taking the "good bro" word of their reps.

Whereas the exact amounts are listed in a non-proprietary list on every bottle of T-Bol.

T-Bol not underdosed by any stretch of the imagination.

In fact, T-BOL is one of the only "test boosters" that raise free test AND total testosterone simultaneously, attributed to Tribulus Alatus which is not seen in any other product.

It would be good to see some bloodwork for T-Bol!

but, anything that relies on Trib anything I'm skeptical of! I've seen too many studies that show that tribulus does nothing for natty steroidal levels.

[delsolrob]

It would be good to see some bloodwork for T-Bol!

but, anything that relies on Trib anything I'm skeptical of! I've seen too many studies that show that tribulus does nothing for natty steroidal levels.

not to say that t-bol doesn't have other actives in it that are proven...I just think they are underdosed.

[poison]

Blood work from T-Bol is readily available.

Post em.

You have no idea what "amounts" are in AX, only speculation, and taking the "good bro" word of their reps.

Whereas the exact amounts are listed in a non-proprietary list on every bottle of T-Bol.

T-Bol not underdosed by any stretch of the imagination.

It's easy to see that there is a whopping dose of the main active in AX, if you consider what too much of the 2nd ingredient, rhodiola, does to most folks. Studies and blood tests back nettles effects.

Tribulus? :snort: We've all seen how mixed the feedback is on Prime. 100mg Tribulus alatus? Please.

In fact, T-BOL is one of the only "test boosters" that raise free test AND total testosterone simultaneously, attributed to Tribulus Alatus which is not seen in any other product.

You're wrong, TBol is not the only alatus product, Prime is too.


Maybe it's a good product. I certainly wouldn't blow $45 on it when there are other products with better science and reviews on it.

[nunes]

You're wrong, TBol is not the only alatus product, Prime is too.


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prime is tribulus aquaticus not alatus, different genus, different effects
by the way , some studies on alatus:

http://www.scielo.br/pdf/ibju/v33n4/v33n4a15.pdf
Hypoglycemic and hypolipidemic effects of alcoholi...[Indian J Exp Biol. 2007] - PubMed Result
Free serum testosterone level in male rats treated...[Int Braz J Urol. 2007 Jul-Aug] - PubMed Result

[madchemist]

prime is tribulus aquaticus not alatus, different genus, different effects
by the way , some studies on alatus:

http://www.scielo.br/pdf/ibju/v33n4/v33n4a15.pdf
Hypoglycemic and hypolipidemic effects of alcoholi...[Indian J Exp Biol. 2007] - PubMed Result
Free serum testosterone level in male rats treated...[Int Braz J Urol. 2007 Jul-Aug] - PubMed Result

Thanks nunes.

[PIZSWOLL]

Get you some Diesel Test Hardcore, you'll be fine

[poison]

prime is tribulus aquaticus not alatus, different genus, different effects
by the way , some studies on alatus:

http://www.scielo.br/pdf/ibju/v33n4/v33n4a15.pdf
Hypoglycemic and hypolipidemic effects of alcoholi...[Indian J Exp Biol. 2007] - PubMed Result
Free serum testosterone level in male rats treated...[Int Braz J Urol. 2007 Jul-Aug] - PubMed Result

Gotcha, you're right.

They dosed the rats at 50mg/kg, resulting in significantly elevated androgenic activity. T-Bol gives you a total of 200mg a day, or 2mg/kg for your average male human.

Yay.

[poison]

Thanks nunes.

Where are those blood tests?

[strategicmove]

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Tribulus? :snort: We've all seen how mixed the feedback is on Prime. 100mg Tribulus alatus? Please.

Not to sound defensive (no need to), but it is hard to imagine a product that works for everybody.

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You're wrong, TBol is not the only alatus product, Prime is too.

PRIME contains Tribulus aquaticus, not Tribulus alatus.