New FDA ruling could jeopordize all supplements

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  1. Never enough
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    New FDA ruling could jeopordize all supplements


    The FDA is actually trying to push this through- drug companies are pissed b/c their profits are down....


    FDA SAYS "NO SHIPMENT ACROSS STATE LINES IF STUDIES ABOUT SUPPLEMENT HAVE EVER BEEN PUBLISHED!"
    FDA, both domestically and through Codex, has been trying to make information about the relationship of food and food components to health forbidden speech. That includes supplements, of course.


    As if that were not bad enough, they have come up with another ploy to make it illegal to ship supplements across state lines IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY PUBLISHED HEALTH STUDIES ABOUT ANY INGREDIENT! And we have only 5 days to stop them.


    This is a diabolical, but brilliant, drug company-inspired double whammy:

    Whammy Number 1: Under proposed FDA/Codex rules you cannot tell anyone about what nutrients and supplement can do for them because they are, say the bureaucrats, not "supported" in the scientific literature (despite the science called "Biochemistry" and millions of peer-reviewed journal articles)

    Whammy Number 2: You won't be able to get supplements if what they can do for you has ever been documented in the scientific literature, as part of any medical study.


    It's Actually Even Worse Than That

    In July, 2007, The FDA Amendments Act of 2007, Public Law 110-85, was adopted by the US. Congress. With your support, Natural Solutions Foundation Health Freedom advocates fought hard to convinced Senator Harkin (R-IL) to force inclusion of language exempting dietary supplements from the provisions in the law. That protective language is the law of the United States of America, enacted as section 1011, the DSHEA Product Rule of Construction.


    The failed and corrupt FDA, however, in its relentless crusade to eliminate the rights of Americans to learn about or use the most significant economic competitor to pharmaceutical drugs has no respect for the law and no interest in either your freedom or your health. They are currently promulgating regulations which would make it illegal to ship supplements across state lines. This would accomplish both definitions of "Nutricide" as I have lectured and written about for years:

    Nu tri cide (3 syllables):

    1. The death of the body of knowledge about the relationship between health and nutrition

    2. The death of large populations through the manipulation of the food [and supplement] supply.

    URGENT ACTION REQUIRED NOW

    Comments close on November 25, 2008 on a new regulatory sneak attack against supplements. FDA regulations will, if the FDA succeeds, make the shipment of supplements across state lines illegal - get this - IF THE SUPPLEMENT HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF A CLINICAL STUDY.

    They're BAAAAAAACK!

    If you value

    Your access to supplements and nutrients

    Your health

    Your freedom to determine what goes into your body

    Your First Amendment Rights
    then I urge you in the strongest terms to click below NOW to help make sure that the FDA, at least this once, obeys the law of the land.


    CODEX Action Alert

    Last time the FDA tried something this awful, through the 2007 "Draft CAM Guidance", the Natural Solutions Foundation alerted health freedom lovers. Time was very short then, too but as a result, 588,000+ people came to our site to tell the FDA not to continue with its plan to turn nutrients into "untested drugs" and therefore make them all illegal. The FDA system "accidentally' crashed so "only" 198,000+ people got their comments in but FDA got the message and backed off.

    We said at that time we counted their backing off as a triumph but that they would be back. Well, they are back and they are sneakier and meaner than ever.

    We have enormous power in the aggregate. Now it is time to use it. Again.

    Click the link below to use our power and back off the forces that are dedicated to taking away your right to use natural health options prevent and deal with illness - or even know what they can do for you - instead of high-profit drugs.

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  2. Never enough
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    Every administration does this, tries to pass "midnight resolutions" at the very end of their presidency to try and undo thing that the previous president did that they dont like, and to stick the new president with stuff that is hard to change any other way. So this is Bush's attempt to undo parts of the DSHEA that he doesn't care for...
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  3. what do i do with the link bro....!!!! im gunna hope on this, its bull sh*t!
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  4. never mind, can we swear in the message??
    are we sending this to CODEX or what?

  5. I copied and pasted this to another forum i frequent. Cool?

  6. yah, dont think it matters

  7. Don't Make Me Hungry, Fda... You Wouldn't Like Me When I'm Hungry...

  8. BUMP! What the motherf**k... There's no way... seriously? Could this possibly happen?


    Quote Originally Posted by capnsavem View Post
    Don't Make Me Hungry, Fda... You Wouldn't Like Me When I'm Hungry...
    LOL, I saw this yesterday, and loved it. Great re-do in my opinion. Can't wait for the followup!

  9. I'm thinking all one would have to do is produce a conflicting clinical study saying the supplement/ingredients were beneficial.

    This is seriously the kind of thing that would make me leave the country, though, if it were to ever come true. ****ing despicable.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Rugger View Post
    This is seriously the kind of thing that would make me leave the country, though, if it were to ever come true. ****ing despicable.
    x2.
    "I am legally blind and if I can Squat,deadlift and over all get myself to the gym then anyone can get their a$$ in gear and get strong!!" - malleus25
    WHITE WHALE!
  11. mikinTx
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    Thanks Easy, just signed the petition (I always select Fax also so they get a hardcopy also). This is a constant problem with the FDA, doesn't matter which party is in power. Wouldn't hurt to email your Senators/Representative also since there's only 5 days. At any rate, very useful post bro!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Rugger View Post
    I'm thinking all one would have to do is produce a conflicting clinical study saying the supplement/ingredients were beneficial.
    Then it would be illegal to send them over state lines, because there's a clinical study on it.....

  13. Submitted mine, and drafting up something for my representatives. You can find yours at http://www.congress.org down in the My Elected Officials box. Seriously, there's no way this could be allowed to occur...

  14. So if the product has a double blinded clinical study on it not the raw materials but the actual product is it still okay?
  15. Never enough
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    I think it depends on if the study shows a medical purpose. but when you have such vague definitions it means any jackass beaurocrat can do what he wants when he gets a wild hair up his ass, and suddenly stop creatine sales
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  16. is Canada this f*cked up??

  17. Quote Originally Posted by ShiftyCapone View Post
    Then it would be illegal to send them over state lines, because there's a clinical study on it.....
    why would they make it illegal to send over state lines if it was clinically studied? so they'd rather ship stuff that has never been tested and nobody knows the safety?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Rugger View Post
    I'm thinking all one would have to do is produce a conflicting clinical study saying the supplement/ingredients were beneficial.

    This is seriously the kind of thing that would make me leave the country, though, if it were to ever come true. ****ing despicable.
    x3. I've always wanted to live in the U.K. anyhow...

  19. sent my email everyone should do it. If this passes......

  20. "FDA SAYS "NO SHIPMENT ACROSS STATE LINES IF STUDIES ABOUT SUPPLEMENT HAVE EVER BEEN PUBLISHED!""


    ???

    Studies showing what?

    Thats pretty much everything sold today, and everything in Walgreens, etc, thats OTC.

  21. Well I did the link thing and the email signup thing, and I added a comment thing:

    Stay out of the health food and supplement industry and focus on safeguarding the american people from tainted beef, diseased poultry and e.coli tainted produce!

    I think I did what I was supposed, it took me to the thank you page, so I guess that was it.

    I wish I had ended with "contaminated produce!", I think it would have been more dramatic, oh well.
    PHF Rep


  22. I hate government organizations.

  23. I emailed all my senators, and representatives. Their offices will be getting calls from me on monday also.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Gtarzan81 View Post
    I emailed all my senators, and representatives. Their offices will be getting calls from me on monday also.
    good luck. i sent an e-mail to my sh!tty senator hillary clinton and i got nothin back. it's been a few months too

  25. Quote Originally Posted by jsp0785 View Post
    good luck. i sent an e-mail to my sh!tty senator hillary clinton and i got nothin back. it's been a few months too
    I see 2 problems here:
    Hillary
    New York

  26. Quote Originally Posted by SokVichet View Post
    BUMP! What the motherf**k... There's no way... seriously? Could this possibly happen?



    LOL, I saw this yesterday, and loved it. Great re-do in my opinion. Can't wait for the followup!
    good call!

    and yes, this is total boolsheet by these beauraucrat (sp?)bloodsuckers.

  27. I saw this when we got the email. absolutely nus

  28. I echo the urge to email the Congressional types - but CALL THEIR OFFICES, too! Email counts, but it's easy - phone calls count more...and letters are weighted more heavily still.

    Don't cuss - but it's okay to express anger and outrage; just be polite!

    Maybe the new administration won't put Big Pharma in charge of the FDA....

  29. Quote Originally Posted by RoadBlocK View Post
    Well I did the link thing and the email signup thing, and I added a comment thing:

    Stay out of the health food and supplement industry and focus on safeguarding the american people from tainted beef, diseased poultry and e.coli tainted produce!

    I think I did what I was supposed, it took me to the thank you page, so I guess that was it.

    I wish I had ended with "contaminated produce!", I think it would have been more dramatic, oh well.
    the fda's biggest excuse for allowing contaminated food is a shortage of manpower. all the dumba$$es will accomplish is another black market they have neither the capacity or willpower to control.

  30. I sent my email/fax. This is scary. Herbal suppliants etc have been used safely for years. Having experience with how the f a a likes to word things, the wording looks to be purposefully vague as to allow them to pick and choose where they choose to enforce. This is dangerous legislation for the obvious reasons, but also would set a precedent of them interpreting more and more laws the way they see fit. Similar would be the FAA's regulation of "due deference" where if there is a question on if a law is to be interpreted this way or that in an enforcement action, the faa will always get the upper hand (interpretation - the law means what WE say it means).

    scary.

  31. why the hell are supplements, products that are used to promote healthy life styles, our governments biggest worries, are they f*cking retarded??

  32. I am glad the FDA is finally stepping in.

  33. Quote Originally Posted by djbombsquad View Post
    I am glad the FDA is finally stepping in.

  34. Quote Originally Posted by djbombsquad View Post
    I am glad the FDA is finally stepping in.
    So you cant get any supplements across borders?

  35. Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    So you cant get any supplements across borders?
    "I am legally blind and if I can Squat,deadlift and over all get myself to the gym then anyone can get their a$$ in gear and get strong!!" - malleus25
    WHITE WHALE!

  36. what is a troll in the forums? Ive always seen it but not really sure what it is?

  37. Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    "FDA SAYS "NO SHIPMENT ACROSS STATE LINES IF STUDIES ABOUT SUPPLEMENT HAVE EVER BEEN PUBLISHED!""


    ???

    Studies showing what?

    Thats pretty much everything sold today, and everything in Walgreens, etc, thats OTC.
    exactly what i was thinking. No way that this could pass,.... in the end if it passes,...... its not just supplement shops, but all otc vitamins, and meds, that'll be in the gutter,...... thats a crap load of $$ not being made,...idk, its kinda hard to believe, but who knows.

  38. I get all the majority of stuff threw doctors any way.

  39. Lovaza is a prescription for me any way.

  40. Fosomax is for my vitamin D.
  

  
 

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