Whats casein? Do i need it?

[GetDatFool]

Is this important for muscle growth? :welcome:

 

[delsolrob]

basically casein is a slow digesting protein...it usually takes about 8 hours to completely digest.

I like to use casein protein at all times except post workout when you want a fast digesting protein.

 

[suncloud]

casein is not crucial. its a slow digesting protein, that's usually taken at night.

it will aid recovery
it will help you wake up with more energy
it will help put on size

but no, its not the most important thing. whey protein + waxy maize starch is more important, if taken pre and post workout. and its cheaper.

IMO, the heirarchy of natural supplements are
whey protein
fast carbs
multi vitamin
zma
creatine (if you respond)
casein
bcaa's / eaa's
beta alanine

In my opinion. at your height and weight, your diet and training is a far more important thing to look at. could you post it for me?

 

[GetDatFool]

5 ft 9. 157
monday - 10 to 20 min cardio - arms shoulders
tuesday - cardio - abs - triceps
wed- cardio- arms shoulders
thursday - cardio - legs -triceps
friday- cardio - max arms shoulders


whats waxy meize starch? if its carbs then what are some fast carbs?

 

[delsolrob]

suncloud has a great point! at your height and weight you should get most of your protein from whole foods and only supplement protein pre and post workout!

as he mentioned a shake of whey and WMS would be great post workout (within your anabolic window) to spike your insulin levels and provide your muscles with the nutrients required to grow.

if you're goal is to put on some size then I recommend: chicken, steak, salmon, tuna, lots of whole wheat stuff (pasta, etc), oats, natty peanut butter, etc...did I mention steak?!?!?

 

[delsolrob]

5 ft 9. 157
monday - 10 to 20 min cardio - arms shoulders
tuesday - cardio - abs - triceps
wed- cardio- arms shoulders
thursday - cardio - legs -triceps
friday- cardio - max arms shoulders


whats waxy meize starch? if its carbs then what are some fast carbs?

WMS is a quick digesting carb, when used post workout it can provide the insulin spike like sugar without the bloating of dextrose or Malto.

 

[suncloud]

5 ft 9. 157
monday - 10 to 20 min cardio - arms shoulders
tuesday - cardio - abs - triceps
wed- cardio- arms shoulders
thursday - cardio - legs -triceps
friday- cardio - max arms shoulders


whats waxy meize starch? if its carbs then what are some fast carbs?

yes, waxy maize starch (WMS) is a super fast digesting carb. are you an ectomorph or endomorph?

 

[liquid]

waxy maize

5 ft 9. 157
monday - 10 to 20 min cardio - arms shoulders
tuesday - cardio - abs - triceps
wed- cardio- arms shoulders
thursday - cardio - legs -triceps
friday- cardio - max arms shoulders


whats waxy meize starch? if its carbs then what are some fast carbs?

NutraPlanet Kwick Karb™ Waxy Maize Starch

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The end result is that Kwick Karb delivers more nutrients and growth factors to your muscles than any other carbohydrate source available and just as importantly, does this without the bloat, sluggishness and fat gain usually associated with high carbohydrate products. Face it – sugar is NOT anabolic! Get into the 21st century with a scientifically superior carbohydrate source – Kwick Karb!

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[GetDatFool]

Ectomorph, thanks for all your tips

 

[suncloud]

no problem. i am an ecto too

hopefully these two links will help point you in the right direction.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/training-forum/99607-gaining-mass-nutshell.html

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/training-forum/109366-ectomorph-workout.html



if you have any questions, or anything i can help you with, feel free to PM me.