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best resveratrol?

Buffgammaman

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What's the best brand for a resveratrol supplement and what's the best amount to take on a daly basis to really see the benifits of this stuff in blocking estrogen and improving metabolism?
 
Buffgammaman said:
What's the best brand for a resveratrol supplement and what's the best amount to take on a daly basis to really see the benifits of this stuff in blocking estrogen and improving metabolism?
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Sustain Alpha!! check it out at Invalid Link Removed
 
Sustain Alpha hands down. Oral bio availability is much less than transdermal. I have used both PCS and Sustain Alpha. I did blood tests that showed that Sustain Alpha can increase LH and FSH even while on steroids!
 
I would say Sustain Alfa too. However, some people including myself absolutely can't use this product because it causes rashes. I pretty sure for the vast majority this does not happen, but for me I could not get away it. I have tried the latest version but to no avail. I would say for an oral, Reverse from IBE would be the best as far as Res. is concerned. Stocked is a good product, but I'm not sure of the bioavailablity of the res. in that product.
 
Vegking said:
I would say Sustain Alfa too. However, some people including myself absolutely can't use this product because it causes rashes. I pretty sure for the vast majority this does not happen, but for me I could not get away it. I have tried the latest version but to no avail. I would say for an oral, Reverse from IBE would be the best as far as Res. is concerned. Stocked is a good product, but I'm not sure of the bioavailablity of the res. in that product.
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good post. i would agree with the sustain alpha and the IBE reverse being the best. one oral one transdermal
 
cant post the link but there is a couple of sites selling it in bulk. other then that there isn't enough in these supps at the moment to be able to run them for a decent length of time.
 
high quality resvaratrol is expensive, making it hard to run a good dose for long periods.
this is one product i prefer in bulk.
 
Hank Vangut said:
high quality resvaratrol is expensive, making it hard to run a good dose for long periods.
this is one product i prefer in bulk.
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so you prefer to take more then? bulk is always lesser in quality. You have to question the effectiveness of a lower end product when it comes to reservatrol imo. I would want to be using the best stuff if i was going for the full benefiets.
 
most bulks come from the same overseas suppliers that companies mix into their products.

and how do i know if a company sourced high quality materials for their product?

you kind of have to trust the company selling products and bulks.
 
Titanium said:
Sustain Alpha hands down. Oral bio availability is much less than transdermal. I have used both PCS and Sustain Alpha. I did blood tests that showed that Sustain Alpha can increase LH and FSH even while on steroids!
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Sustain Alpha

Sustain Alpha is amazing. I run it year round. My balls stay huge while on a big cycle so I know its helping prevent shutdown.
Its like being on HCG for me. Plus it makes me feel so damn good!
 
Titanium said:
Sustain Alpha hands down. Oral bio availability is much less than transdermal. I have used both PCS and Sustain Alpha. I did blood tests that showed that Sustain Alpha can increase LH and FSH even while on steroids!
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Id like to see those tests. Until than this statement is just not believeable. Hcg does not even do this it simply mimicks LH and clomid has been shown to not even do this while on cycle and we all know how well clomid does this post cycle. Your negative feedback loop while "on" is just not going to allow this to happen.
 
Titanium said:
Sustain Alpha hands down. Oral bio availability is much less than transdermal. I have used both PCS and Sustain Alpha. I did blood tests that showed that Sustain Alpha can increase LH and FSH even while on steroids!
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Wow titanium were you part of that test that primordial was having a little while back? That's really impressive, increased LH and FSH WHILE ON STEROIDS??? This stuff has got to be the holly grail if that's true.
 
Hank Vangut said:
most bulks come from the same overseas suppliers that companies mix into their products.

and how do i know if a company sourced high quality materials for their product?

you kind of have to trust the company selling products and bulks.
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true,true so are u using bulk trans-reservatrol or bulk-reservtrol, u add anything to increase its uptake like quercitin?

i havent tried any reservatrol product, but sustain alpha, stoked, and and reverse all look like top of the line.
 
ari4216 said:
true,true so are u using bulk trans-reservatrol or bulk-reservtrol, u add anything to increase its uptake like quercitin?

i havent tried any reservatrol product, but sustain alpha, stoked, and and reverse all look like top of the line.
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We added Quercetin to Stoked just to increase it's bioavailibilty.


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Bumping this thread for more information. There is a micronized Resveratrol and a micronized liquid capsule. Has anyone used these? I want to avoid the laxative effect of the emodin. I like Sustain but dont want to use it all the time.
 
I think the amount of Res. you could obtain by drinking wine, unless you have been drinking it regularly for decades, is probably neglible. The problem with Res. is that it may irritate the GI tract and some people cant tolerate it. Has anyone tried the micronized or micronized liquicaps?
 
MgoBlue said:
that's what I've been wanting to ask.. I've been hearing how good a glass of red wine is for you.. Is there any certain kind that's better than the other? I just had a glass of cab. Is that better than merlot or Pinot noir?
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I read somewhere a while ago that, prior to the intensive use of pesticides, French red wines contained about 20mg of resveratrol per liter. This was the equivalent amount of resveratrol associated with the cardiovascular-protection effects related to the so-called "French Paradox". This was also the reason a lot of early resveratrol supplements provided 20mg-per-day doses. With the aggressive use of pesticides, however, only about 90mcg (micrograms) of resveratrol is now said to be available per liter of red wine. This means that an individual consuming a 20mg serving of a resveratrol supplement daily, gets about 40 times the amount of resveratrol in one glass of red wine. Put differently, a 20mg capsule of resveratrol provides the equivalent amount of resveratrol in about 40 glasses of red wine. Consequently, using red wine as a source of resveratrol supplementation is neither medically justifiable (40 glasses of red wine!) nor economically practical.
 
strategicmove said:
I read somewhere a while ago that, prior to the intensive use of pesticides, French red wines contained about 20mg of resveratrol per liter. This was the equivalent amount of resveratrol associated with the cardiovascular-protection effects related to the so-called "French Paradox". This was also the reason a lot of early resveratrol supplements provided 20mg-per-day doses. With the aggressive use of pesticides, however, only about 90mcg (micrograms) of resveratrol is now said to be available per liter of red wine. This means that an individual consuming a 20mg serving of a resveratrol supplement daily, gets about 40 times the amount of resveratrol in one glass of red wine. Put differently, a 20mg capsule of resveratrol provides the equivalent amount of resveratrol in about 40 glasses of red wine. Consequently, using red wine as a source of resveratrol supplementation is neither medically justifiable (40 glasses of red wine!) nor economically practical.
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so then, what, if any benefits would one get from drinking a glass of red wine? Obviously not those that you could get from the pills, but are there any other?

Thanks-
 
strategicmove said:
I read somewhere a while ago that, prior to the intensive use of pesticides, French red wines contained about 20mg of resveratrol per liter. This was the equivalent amount of resveratrol associated with the cardiovascular-protection effects related to the so-called "French Paradox". This was also the reason a lot of early resveratrol supplements provided 20mg-per-day doses. With the aggressive use of pesticides, however, only about 90mcg (micrograms) of resveratrol is now said to be available per liter of red wine. This means that an individual consuming a 20mg serving of a resveratrol supplement daily, gets about 40 times the amount of resveratrol in one glass of red wine. Put differently, a 20mg capsule of resveratrol provides the equivalent amount of resveratrol in about 40 glasses of red wine. Consequently, using red wine as a source of resveratrol supplementation is neither medically justifiable (40 glasses of red wine!) nor economically practical.
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40 glasses of wine=:drunk:and then:gore:
 
MgoBlue said:
so then, what, if any benefits would one get from drinking a glass of red wine? Obviously not those that you could get from the pills, but are there any other?

Thanks-
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My point was that, if one were seeking to maximize the benefits obtainable from resveratrol, supplementation, rather than red-wine consumption, would be the optimal approach. Yet, taking a glass of red wine daily still has its benefits. Rich in polyphenols and flavonoids, red wine (one glass daily) may help maintain endothelial integrity (the main route for cardiovascular support), inhibit platelet aggregation, prevent lipid proxidation, and provide general anti-inflammatory and anti-oxidant support. :cheers:
 
more good news on resvz

Resveratrol helps spinal discs grow


Resveratrol is a powerful anabolic for spinal discs, researchers at Rush University Medical Center in Chicago discovered when they did tests on the intervertebral discs of cattle. Resveratrol, a substance found in grapes and peanuts and popular with longevity seekers, may protect spinal discs in humans who overstrain their backs.



The intervertebral discs in the spine – see illustration – consist of an outer ring and an inner core. The outer ring, the annulus fibrosus, is made of collagen and is tough. Inside this is the nucleus pulposus, which is soft and made of proteoglycans, mainly aggrecan.


Spinal discs get damaged through age and physical exertion: work or sport. People with chronic lower back pain often have worn spinal discs. We’re talking about over ten percent of the population, so there’s a lot of research going on to find substances that can help restore spinal discs. One candidate is resveratrol, a substance found in plants which activates life-extending enzymes in cells.
The illustration shows the structural formula of resveratrol.


The wearing down of the spinal cord is mainly due to inflammatory processes. These are caused by inflammatory proteins such as interleukine-1 [IL-1]. The breakdown of tissue in the spinal discs is started by enzymes such as MMP-13 and ADAMTS-4. These especially affect the aggrecan in the soft core of the disc.


The bigger the patch in the figure below, the more of the catabolic enzyme MMP-13 the researchers found in the hard annulus fibrosus [AF] and the soft nucleus pulposus [NP]. Resveratrol inhibits the production of the catabolic enzyme




1: untreated spinal discs; 2: treated with IL-1 10 ng/ml; 3: bFGF 10 ng/ml; 4: IL-1 + RSV 200 microM; 5: bFGF + RSV 200 microM; 6: IL-1 + IL-1Ra 100ng/ml; 7: bFGF + IL-1Ra 100ng.


The figure below shows the effect of resveratrol on the accumulation of proteoglycan in the NP cells. Resveratrol doubled it. The addition of inflammatory proteins such as IL-1 hardly alters the stimulatory effect.



The accumulation of proteoglycan was partly due to the fact that the cells started to make more proteoglycan. The researchers measured the production by following at the absorption of marked sulphur in proteoglycan molecules. Once again, resveratrol blocked the effect of inflammatory proteins.


So, who knows: maybe resveratrol supplements could help protect your spinal discs against damage caused by squats and deadlifts. And they might also help people with back problems.


Now we’re into the realms of speculation: do people who consume lots of phenolic compounds like resveratrol have fewer back problems?


Hmmm.


That might make an interesting, albeit a little off-the-wall, epidemiological study.


Sources:
Spine. 2008 Nov 15;33(24):2586-95.



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