- 11-08-2008, 11:10 PM
I just finished using Cellmass and N.O. Xplode for the past 3 months, Im taking a break from it for 2 months because of the creatine content. But I want that feeling N.O.Xplode gives me before going to the gym... Any ideas? I just dont have as much of a drive as I did using N.O.Xplode. Anybody used anything without creatine that works pretty good? the less caffeine the better also....
- 11-09-2008, 12:11 AM
11-09-2008, 05:46 AM
Well I was told to use it for 12 weeks, then stop using it for about a month, because of the creatine and because you build a tolerance for it.
11-09-2008, 08:12 AM
11-09-2008, 09:26 AM
Alot of pre-WO supps have creatine, but there's still a few good options without . RPM is one (I find it is hit and miss for some people).
You can also do Geranium Extract (60 mg/100 caps) By: NutraPlanet + bulk Tyrosine, BetaAlanine, Citrulline Malate, or look into Core ZAP (88 Capsules) By: Core . And lastly Animal Pump can be taken without the caffeine pills (red) Animal Pump (30 servings) By: Universal Nutrition . Which one is the best, is obviously subjective lol.
11-09-2008, 10:04 AM
11-09-2008, 10:06 AM
White Flood stacked with some carbs pre workout works great for me.
I also recently starting using Beta Nox and I really, really, like it
11-09-2008, 10:32 AM
11-09-2008, 10:37 AM
Other than whats been listed, I like Hemadraulix as a non-creatine preworkout. most preworkouts do have creatine which I don't believe you need a break from. For ones with creatine the above mentioned plus Ragnarok, WTF Pumped and CMI's Red Cell all feel good
11-09-2008, 10:40 AM
white flood gets good reviews. I need to add it to my arsenal.
I am very happy with the following. Depending on the day and my mood, i create a concoction of 1 or more of the following.
JP8-legs days for sure.
Nos Ether by label directions.
11-09-2008, 11:08 AM
BCAAs plus Creatine- good choice, has some very anti-catabolic qualities- can't go wrong
Drive plus RPM plus NeoVar/WMS- great also- works through several different mechanisms of action to provide extra strength and focus, and has testosterone boosting properties as well
R4War- real attention getter- great for an extra boost
NeoVar plus IGF-2 plus WMS- HUGE pumps, good strength increases, literally and around-the-clock full feeling (muscle bellies, not stomach )
Dirk Tanis, BA, MSci
Chief Operating Officer, Applied Nutriceuticals
11-09-2008, 01:34 PM
if u like no xplode then ud like superpump 250
but above those id buy xtend and x-factor for crazy pumps.
11-09-2008, 01:40 PM
no leucine plus citrline malate are the main movers in xtend but then u have to add a flavoring, ends up costing more grreen and time than u think
11-09-2008, 04:04 PM
try ultimate nutrition horsepower, its kick ass. that bsn stuff is hard on the wallet. horsepower gave me intense workouts with kick ass focus, endless energy, and i always seemed to knock out a couple extra reps(sometimes sets)
11-09-2008, 05:00 PM
What is USPlabs Jacked. Give us a hint.
AEN's pre surge is awesome. Try that out. I just ordered 6 bottles and I will be stacking it with BA and the monster pslin stack.
11-09-2008, 05:12 PM
11-09-2008, 05:35 PM
11-09-2008, 05:37 PM
NADA is another good pre work out. Nicotinamide Adenosine Dinucleotide Hydride (NADH). Peak ATP Adenosine-5-triphosphate Disodium Salt
11-09-2008, 05:40 PM
Why not just go w/ some bulk contents. It would save you money. Some suggestions are creatine mono, beta alanine, plcar, alcar, bcaas, liver tabs, panax ginseng, etc. Some work synergistically w/ one another also.
11-10-2008, 07:19 AM
11-10-2008, 02:55 PM
White flood is pretty good. I like it. I drink a cup pf coffee and then a start drinking WF prior to wo at 5:30am. I finish wf during wo
IMO - RPM SUCKS. Tried it 2x never felt, seen jack
11-10-2008, 05:24 PM
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