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    Ok everyone, lets get a thread going ranking your favorite pre-workout drink mixes in order of best to least results in terms of pumps, energy/mental focus, endurance, strength gains. For me Ive only used GET DIESEL drink mixes (well besides samples of others, not enough servings to rate) so my list(s) will look like this:



    Pumps:

    NOS ETHER
    JP8

    Energy:
    R4W 5.0 (1 scoop)
    JP8 (2.5 scoops)
    R4W 6.0 (1 scoop)

    Mental Focus (and motivation):
    R4W 6.0 (1 scoop)
    JP8 (2.5 scoops) (close 2nd)
    R4W 5.0 (1 scoop)
    NOS ETHER

    Endurance:
    R4W 6.0 (1 scoop)
    NOS ETHER
    JP8 (2.5 scoops)
    R4W 5.0 (1 scoop)

    Strength:

    NOS ETHER
    JP8

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    I'm gonna send you a bottle of No-Xplode, Chuck, gotta break up the monotony there.

    Oh, and RPM. In all categories.
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    2 scoops of xtend, another 5 grams of bcaa and glut and 3 more grams of citruline malate and 2 g beta alanine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    I'm gonna send you a bottle of No-Xplode, Chuck, gotta break up the monotony there.

    Oh, and RPM. In all categories.
    I've used NOxplode and tons of preworkout drinks just like I said not enough times to rate. I also had to take 3 scoops of noxplode for energy, no strength or endurance from it (same with rpm eventhough its caps not a powder...but I did get some nice hard pumps on rpm).
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    no one on AM has never used more than one or two preworkout drink mixes?
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    i've tried a lot:

    1. Ragnorak
    2. NO Shotgun v2.0
    3. NO Shotgun v3.0
    4. White Flood
    5. Smash
    6. Animal Pump
    7. All the Whey NO2Xplode
    8. NO Xplode
    9. SuperPump 250
    10. Nano Vapor (horrible)
    11. NO Plasmacore (worst sht ever)
    (bought the last 2 before I knew sht about sht)

    Still haven't tried NOS Ether or JP8 but lookin forward to one or the other, next NP order
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    For me, I would say that REDLINE works the best... I just like the overall feel from it and have used it for quite sometime. Either in pill or RTD form.. MAYBE EVEN BOTH TOGETHER SOMETIMES!
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    Pumps:

    GlycerGrow
    White FLOOD

    Energy:
    White FLOOD
    Ginseng

    Mental Focus (and motivation):
    White FLOOD
    Ginseng
    Purple WRAATH

    Endurance:
    Purple WRAATH for sure
    GM


    Strength:

    Green MAG
    FLOOD
    Anger!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    I've used NOxplode and tons of preworkout drinks just like I said not enough times to rate. I also had to take 3 scoops of noxplode for energy, no strength or endurance from it (same with rpm eventhough its caps not a powder...but I did get some nice hard pumps on rpm).
    I've tried most of them, Chuck, but only one of your products, the old R4W powder.

    Which of your products would provide the best nootropic boost? I don't want a huge dose of caffeine, ~100-150mg, but something with a good mental kick.

    I don't need pump stuff, I'm not lifting weights, only doing judo. I need something to perk me up pre-judo after a 14hr work day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    I've tried most of them, Chuck, but only one of your products, the old R4W powder.

    Which of your products would provide the best nootropic boost? I don't want a huge dose of caffeine, ~100-150mg, but something with a good mental kick.

    I don't need pump stuff, I'm not lifting weights, only doing judo. I need something to perk me up pre-judo after a 14hr work day.
    When I was an active Judo player, I used DIESEL FUEL before practice.
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    I'll look at it, thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    When I was an active Judo player, I used DIESEL FUEL before practice.
    Hey ! So you liked Diesel fuel? have you every used redline? how would you compare the two??? I am curious about this stuff now so please hit me up!

    Thanks!!
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    why all the diesel products

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    Ok everyone, lets get a thread going ranking your favorite pre-workout drink mixes in order of best to least results in terms of pumps, energy/mental focus, endurance, strength gains. For me Ive only used GET DIESEL drink mixes (well besides samples of others, not enough servings to rate) so my list(s) will look like this:



    Pumps:

    NOS ETHER
    JP8

    Energy:
    R4W 5.0 (1 scoop)
    JP8 (2.5 scoops)
    R4W 6.0 (1 scoop)

    Mental Focus (and motivation):
    R4W 6.0 (1 scoop)
    JP8 (2.5 scoops) (close 2nd)
    R4W 5.0 (1 scoop)
    NOS ETHER

    Endurance:
    R4W 6.0 (1 scoop)
    NOS ETHER
    JP8 (2.5 scoops)
    R4W 5.0 (1 scoop)

    Strength:

    NOS ETHER
    JP8
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    I have tried a few things (mostly stuff given to me by other companies)-
    NO Explode
    NO Shotgun
    Steel Edge
    SuperPump
    Vasocharge
    Green Magnitude

    Pumps:
    I really liked Steel Edge, worked really well with RPM/Drive
    A lot of the other stuff didn't really do much in the way of pumps

    Energy:
    SuperPump was decent- too much when I took it with Drive/RPM
    Steel Edge- Great with Drive/RPM, felt like I could run forever
    As far as "good" energy- not stimmed-out, ready to crush the weights or whatever sprint-training, practice, or plylo workout I was doing

    Mental Focus (and motivation):
    Steel Edge- has a great deal of tyrosine- great focus

    Endurance:
    Steel Edge- great in this aspect as well
    NO Explode helped my endurance some
    Powdered Goji berry

    Strength:
    NO Explode with Drive and RPM= pretty cool

    The only Get Diesel Product that I ever took was the R4War capsules (but not any powders), and it was a few of the sample packs- I honestly can say that I really liked it- good energy, not too "stimmy", good focus and concentration- and it only took 1 capsule to get a really noticeable result......plus stacked really great with RPM/Drive- huge pumps
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    NO-Shotgun. If another company comes out with a product with even close to the same ingredient profile and effectiveness I would ry it in a heartbeat. I really like the hydrolysate in it which is something pre-workout drinks never have. Good EAA content, great energy, pumps, and I still get the same effect I did with the first time I used it. I get 20g of protein from NO-Shotgun, plus the hydrolysate in intrabolic and then again from torrent after. Not to mention all the BCAA content. I've tried 90% of all preworkout supplements and would try something new all the time, but so far nothing has taken my wallet away from NO-Shotgun. Best ingredient profile by far.
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    i cant recall the last time ive used a powederd Pre WO

    no explode but that sucked

    whiteflood but that was back in the early days when it tasted like liquid *******. but the energy and pumps were great

    alri WTF pump'd wasnt too bad.

    with my job its hard to mix up a a drink before the gym
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    Pre Workout:

    1- hour out 50-60 g oat bran with 50 g ON whey w/water plus:

    3 g l-argnine powder
    10 g bcaa powder
    3 g beta alanine
    5 g vitamin C
    5 g creatine mono

    30 mins out from workout:

    Right now I'm using --

    2 scoops Gaspari Super-Pump

    I have used and will go back to using:

    Core Zap + Storm (non stim) is great (I know this is a "drink" thread, but have had some amazing workouts stacking that with a non-stim NO).

    NO Explode is ok.

    Either Gaspari or Core ZAP + non stim NO product will continue to be my staple.

    I feel I can go forever some nights...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Rulz View Post
    Pre Workout:

    1- hour out 50-60 g oat bran with 50 g ON whey w/water plus:

    3 g l-argnine powder
    10 g bcaa powder
    3 g beta alanine
    5 g vitamin C
    5 g creatine mono

    30 mins out from workout:

    Right now I'm using --

    2 scoops Gaspari Super-Pump

    I have used and will go back to using:

    Core Zap + Storm (non stim) is great (I know this is a "drink" thread, but have had some amazing workouts stacking that with a non-stim NO).

    NO Explode is ok.

    Either Gaspari or Core ZAP + non stim NO product will continue to be my staple.

    I feel I can go forever some nights...
    Arginine's main function is vasodilation; taking it with food will essentially eliminate its functionality. If you feel you need more than what is already in SuperPump, you might want to take the 3 additional grams with the SP250
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    Quote Originally Posted by mDeezy View Post
    Arginine's main function is vasodilation; taking it with food will essentially eliminate its functionality. If you feel you need more than what is already in SuperPump, you might want to take the 3 additional grams with the SP250

    Yeah I understand that, but one thing also is that argnine shows to induce insulin secretion into the blood stream, therefore having that whey/w and mix then eating oat bran should result in a higher absorpion rate due to increased insulin volume, no? Am I getting this backwards? Thoughts?

    To quote a source:

    There are twenty different amino acids in our body's proteins and our food. Ingestion of protein, taken up as amino acids, causes release of insulin from beta cells. However, only three of the amino acids which make up these proteins activate secretion of insulin. They do this through the same basic mechanism as glucose. That is, their entry into the beta cell leads to ionic changes that depolarize the beta cell, trigger Ca++ uptake and stimulate exocytose of insulin-containing granules. However, the KATP channel is not involved in this process.

    How can these amino acids ( alanine, glycine and arginine) cause depolarization of the beta cell without involving K+ transport?

    Alanine and glycine share a symport that also transports Na+ into the beta cell. The amino acid-induced influx of Na+ is sufficient to depolarize the cell, activating the Ca++ channel with ensuing Ca++ uptake and insulin release.

    A dedicated arginine transport protein is also present in the beta cell plasma membrane. Arginine is a cation at physiological pH and can directly depolarize the beta cell. Arginine is, in fact, the strongest insulin secretagogue, measured on a mole for mole basis. It is often used to initiate insulin secretion in clinical testing of beta cell capacity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AGGR3S10N View Post
    Energy:
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    Nano vapor (worst effing product ever created)

    You have apparently never tried NO Plasmacore
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    Quote Originally Posted by mDeezy View Post
    You have apparently never tried NO Plasmacore
    Haha no I havent, I didnt think it was possible to get worse than vapor, but I will take your word for it, lol.
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    i've used so many different things, but i can't remember them all. here's a list of them, and here's what products worked (in order) for each category. first, the ones i've used, then categorized by efficacy.

    ragnarok
    r4w 6.0
    supercharge
    superpump
    white flood
    no-shotgun
    smash
    vasocharge
    shock therapy
    bodyforge
    cryoshock
    animal pump
    steel edge
    xpand/energized xpand
    no-xplode
    vassive-no
    rpm


    pumps:
    no-shotgun
    ragnarok
    cryoshock
    white flood
    animal pump
    rpm
    superpump

    energy:
    r4w 6.0
    ragnarok
    rpm
    cryoshock
    superpump
    white flood

    focus:
    r4w 6.0
    ragnarok
    cryoshock
    rpm
    white flood/superpump

    strength:
    clout
    ragnarok/animal pump

    endurance:
    clout
    bodyforge
    ragnarok
    white flood
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    Quote Originally Posted by msucurt View Post
    why all the diesel products
    i get them for a good price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    i get them for a good price.
    i want moar R4W!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    i get them for a good price.
    Link please!
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    I agree with O-hero! definitely try JP8!
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    My favorite is: ALRI WTF Pump'd. It's the only product I only need one scoop for. I do add stims/nootropics to it.

    All else about equal that I enjoy (2 scoops)
    Ragnarok
    Cold Fusion Ex (i had stims/nootropics)
    Shock Therapy

    The economy of one scoop of WTF makes it my number one and I like it slightly better than the rest. The pump (it's full of Glycerin) is awesome. There's some Cowpea extract that gives it a nice kick. I get an extra burst in my movements that is lacking in the above 3. The ingredient profile is very simple. The lack of citrulline malate and beta alanine and other stuff (Norvaline ect) proves to me that products that contain this don't seem to make a difference to me. It almost makes sense that I could make my own product with bulk: Arginine EE, CEE, and GMS, stim/nootropics, and corsolic acid. Really, we all could if we narrowed down what works for us individually. Just because a product has 10-20 ingredients doesn't mean we respond to even half of what's in there. And we have to double and triple scoop because of proprieties are low dosed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by paulg View Post
    My favorite is: ALRI WTF Pump'd. It's the only product I only need one scoop for. I do add stims/nootropics to it.

    All else about equal that I enjoy (2 scoops)
    Ragnarok
    Cold Fusion Ex (i had stims/nootropics)
    Shock Therapy

    The economy of one scoop of WTF makes it my number one and I like it slightly better than the rest. The pump (it's full of Glycerin) is awesome. There's some Cowpea extract that gives it a nice kick. I get an extra burst in my movements that is lacking in the above 3. The ingredient profile is very simple. The lack of citrulline malate and beta alanine and other stuff (Norvaline ect) proves to me that products that contain this don't seem to make a difference to me. It almost makes sense that I could make my own product with bulk: Arginine EE, CEE, and GMS, stim/nootropics, and corsolic acid. Really, we all could if we narrowed down what works for us individually. Just because a product has 10-20 ingredients doesn't mean we respond to even half of what's in there. And we have to double and triple scoop because of proprieties are low dosed.


    I have Anadraulic State coming and I'm really looking forward to it.
    nice, i didnt know anadraulic state came out yet.
  

  
 

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