Libido booster wanted for (after)epistane

[fresh08]

hi,

I am nearing the end of my 8 wks pulse cycle of epistane. I took it on W/O days and I used a test booster (AN Drive) full time (and Saw Palmetto as support for hair). Good cycle with no real side effects and decent results, but....

all that pulsing with hormones kills my libido... Does anybody know a good libido booster? I wanted to by EST Drive (different from AN Drive). Apparently is not useful as a test booster, but great for your libido (combi of good tribulus and L-argintine I reckon). However, EST Drive is either sold out or discontinued where ever I look...

Any other tips what to take?

PS I quite sure it's the pulsing that kills the libido. I tried 3 days of epistane in a row, instead of every other day, and I was horny as hell But the rest of the side effects....

 

[thebigt]

2 ids pctabs + 1 blue up stim formula. absolutely the best i have tried.

 

[dg806]

Stoked works very well for boosting libido.

 

[jsp0785]

2 ids pctabs + 1 blue up stim formula. absolutely the best i have tried.

i second the ids pct tabs, i'm also recieving my sustain alpha and toco 8 today. i'll keep u updated on that if ur interested. heard great things about that combo. also is an 8 week epistane cycle safe?

 

[fresh08]

2 ids pctabs + 1 blue up stim formula. absolutely the best i have tried.

Looks good. I looked at the ingredients what to have, because I already have order 6-oxo as a inhibitor ibe x-lean as cortisol blocker as my PCT. The IDS post cycle tabs look good, but I think they will roughly have the same effect as the 6-oxo (or not?!)

The Blue up stim seems stacked with potent libido raisers

 

[jsp0785]

Looks good. I looked at the ingredients what to have, because I already have order 6-oxo as a inhibitor ibe x-lean as cortisol blocker as my PCT. The IDS post cycle tabs look good, but I think they will roughly have the same effect as the 6-oxo (or not?!)

The Blue up stim seems stacked with potent libido raisers

it's more potent than 6-oxo alone. it has another AI on top if it plus the testofen will give u a good test boost. not to mention the now banned aspire which goes for $70 a bottle or more alone. it's also rumored to have some clomid in it.

 

[fresh08]

i second the ids pct tabs, i'm also recieving my sustain alpha and toco 8 today. i'll keep u updated on that if ur interested. heard great things about that combo. also is an 8 week epistane cycle safe?

Very safe (I think). You have to fine tune the dose a bit. I pulsedwith 40 mg a day (2x 20) and my friend with 2x10 per day. He became very irritated and aggressive on 40 mg.

I had no further issues, nothing at all and a nice, decent result. (lean definition, but not to much).

Although for my next cycle, I would most like go back to USN 17-methox. Epistane cycles have much work involved in what to combine and pills to take, while USN has an all in product.

 

[jsp0785]

Very safe (I think). You have to fine tune the dose a bit. I pulsedwith 40 mg a day (2x 20) and my friend with 2x10 per day. He became very irritated and aggressive on 40 mg.

I had no further issues, nothing at all and a nice, decent result. (lean definition, but not to much).

Although for my next cycle, I would most like go back to USN 17-methox. Epistane cycles have much work involved in what to combine and pills to take, while USN has an all in product.

u might not have felt any sides but did u get any blood work done?

 

[fresh08]

u might not have felt any sides but did u get any blood work done?

No, I had no bloodwork done. My doctor (or any in the UK) is not going to cooperate with such a thing...

To clarify, I did a pulse cycle, not a full one. Did quite a bit of research and it should give much less side effects, but with reasonable gains. And it did.

Now only to fix the libido

 

[GotTest]

Trione(aka 6-oxo) @ 600mg/day increases libido BIG time for me, but you really need to taper down.

 

[jsp0785]

No, I had no bloodwork done. My doctor (or any in the UK) is not going to cooperate with such a thing...

To clarify, I did a pulse cycle, not a full one. Did quite a bit of research and it should give much less side effects, but with reasonable gains. And it did.

Now only to fix the libido

sounds good. i know epistane isn't very suppressive to begin with. i'm debating on whether to do a cycle of havoc at the moment. for $28 a bottle it's hard to say no

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

I also say Stoked as it is awesome for libido plus it helps boost natty test and will help reduce estrogen and it also is a great antioxidant.:cheers:

 

[jsp0785]

I also say Stoked as it is awesome for libido plus it helps boost natty test and will help reduce estrogen and it also is a great antioxidant.:cheers:

stoked did nothing for my libido :sad:

 

[fresh08]

Trione(aka 6-oxo) @ 600mg/day increases libido BIG time for me, but you really need to taper down.

That's good news, because I already ordered 6-oxo from the USA, and it should arrive here (UK) just before I plan to start my PCT.

I think I'll add the Blue-up, that's seems to have all the right ingredients for libido and it's something you can take for a longer period.

Stoked looks good, but i'll save it as a test booster for my next cycle.

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

stoked did nothing for my libido :sad:

Your one of the very few I have ever heard that from. Sorry it did not work for you.

 

[ari4216]

you might want to check out sunami, its 20 bucks

or diesel test hardcore, which is included in my current log

look them up, they have great feedback, well priced.

 

[thebigt]

That's good news, because I already ordered 6-oxo from the USA, and it should arrive here (UK) just before I plan to start my PCT.

I think I'll add the Blue-up, that's seems to have all the right ingredients for libido and it's something you can take for a longer period.

Stoked looks good, but i'll save it as a test booster for my next cycle.

get the blue up stim formula, it must be the quality of yohimbine. just be prepared for a boost in energy also. very good supp for the $20 price tag.:cheers:

 

[jsp0785]

i'm only on day 2 of sustain alpha and toco-8 and i already wanna bang everything

 

[fresh08]

i'm only on day 2 of sustain alpha and toco-8 and i already wanna bang everything

See, now that's what I want But I'm still going to give blue-up a try first as I already ordered that....

 

[Chub]

No, I had no bloodwork done. My doctor (or any in the UK) is not going to cooperate with such a thing...

Why not?

I had my lipids checked. Don't see why they couldn't check test levels

 

[ari4216]

i think u can get test levels online somehow, though mailing blood samples.

 

[fresh08]

i think u can get test levels online somehow, though mailing blood samples.

That would be good actually, haven't heard of such a service in the UK though. I'll check online.

 

[jsp0785]

That would be good actually, haven't heard of such a service in the UK though. I'll check online.

same website that sells sustain alpha and toco-8 offer saliva hormone tests

 

[ekdevil]

stoked a great product but didnt do much for libido for me also.

 

[SamBoz19]

If you want help with libido...IGF-2 stacked with Activate Xtreme or Nutraplanet's Divanex...nuff said!

Cheers!:cheers:

 

[RenegadeRows]

Blue Up + Coq Diesel helped me in getting back in the zone.

 

[jsp0785]

If you want help with libido...IGF-2 stacked with Activate Xtreme or Nutraplanet's Divanex...nuff said!

Cheers!:cheers:

the nutra planet divanex is basically the same thing as activate, why would u take both?

 

[Imeniaan]

the nutra planet divanex is basically the same thing as activate, why would u take both?

He said ''OR".

 

[ari4216]

hi,

I am nearing the end of my 8 wks pulse cycle of epistane. I took it on W/O days and I used a test booster (AN Drive) full time (and Saw Palmetto as support for hair). Good cycle with no real side effects and decent results, but....

all that pulsing with hormones kills my libido... Does anybody know a good libido booster? I wanted to by EST Drive (different from AN Drive). Apparently is not useful as a test booster, but great for your libido (combi of good tribulus and L-argintine I reckon). However, EST Drive is either sold out or discontinued where ever I look...

Any other tips what to take?

PS I quite sure it's the pulsing that kills the libido. I tried 3 days of epistane in a row, instead of every other day, and I was horny as hell But the rest of the side effects....

i just thought of a good suggestion but then i realized u already finished your pulse. I read an article from Dr.D i think, also others, that said taking a little bit of dhea with epistane helps with libido issues, but i guess this info is for your next pulse,if u do another epi.

 

[fresh08]

i just thought of a good suggestion but then i realized u already finished your pulse. I read an article from Dr.D i think, also others, that said taking a little bit of dhea with epistane helps with libido issues, but i guess this info is for your next pulse,if u do another epi.

Good tip, I don't pick it up in his articles (or I forgot, as a lot is published). I'll do it next time.

 

[thebigt]

i just thought of a good suggestion but then i realized u already finished your pulse. I read an article from Dr.D i think, also others, that said taking a little bit of dhea with epistane helps with libido issues, but i guess this info is for your next pulse,if u do another epi.

dermacrine...

 

[luclyluciano]

Love Dermcrine. Great for Libido & energy.

 

[sp447]

Longjack
Maca Root
Tribulus
Stoked

 

[thebigt]

Love Dermcrine. Great for Libido & energy.

thats high praise for you lucky, it seems you don't respond to a lot of highly touted supps. i am starting my second cycle of dermacrine, this time i am adding mmv2.

 

[jsp0785]

not even a week into sustain alpha and toco 8 and it's alreayd working better than anything i've tried

 

[ari4216]

yeah but dhea is cheaper than dermacreame, transdermal dhea works differently than oral dhea. Dermacreme would be good for on epi too, but dhea is what some IBE people reccomend, and its dirt cheap.

 

[sp447]

I'd just dose a shitload of Maca (2g/ED)

 

[Imeniaan]

not even a week into sustain alpha and toco 8 and it's alreayd working better than anything i've tried

Even better than PCT Tabs by IDS ?

 

[luclyluciano]

thats high praise for you lucky, it seems you don't respond to a lot of highly touted supps. i am starting my second cycle of dermacrine, this time i am adding mmv2.

I definitely need to FEEL results and at least in the 1st week or 2 or I lose interest & faith! Dermacrine definitely works! Regular DHEA orally is very weak...need 200-300 mgs daily minimum or nothing much happens. Natural supps do nothing for me at all and their advertized results are definitely HYPE. Dont' see any hype on the lables of Hormonals...they sell themselves! Willing to try Sustain Alpha however since Dermacrine has done me well....I'll definitely let you guys know the truth.

 

[jsp0785]

Even better than PCT Tabs by IDS ?

probably not cause ids tabs have aspire in them which is basically prescription boner pills.

 

[ari4216]

really pct tabs have aspire in the inrediants, i saw the word aspire, but i didnt know if that was true, they still selling this stuff?

 

[Imeniaan]

probably not cause ids tabs have aspire in them which is basically prescription boner pills.

It is not certain that it's the same ingredient. I don't believe it's the same stuff.

 

[Imeniaan]

really pct tabs have aspire in the inrediants, i saw the word aspire, but i didnt know if that was true, they still selling this stuff?

I purchased three boxes of pct tabs on bb.com, mainly for libido issues, because Sunami and Coq Diesel are not quite helping me right now. Which is very odd, because I always responded well on Get Diesel products.

 

[ari4216]

I purchased three boxes of pct tabs on bb.com, mainly for libido issues, because Sunami and Coq Diesel are not quite helping me right now. Which is very odd, because I always responded well on Get Diesel products.

i think theres too much pollution in the world, phytoestrogens and such

 

[fresh08]

Longjack
Maca Root
Tribulus
Stoked

Since my orginal question in the beginning of this thread, I have started using Controlled Lab Blue Up and they work very nice. Libido is bouncing back, both physically and mentally (no use having a woody and not feeling the mood )

Are there limits to how long you can take this stuff? Most of the other items recommended in this thread are products you build into your cycle, so you can't take it for to long I guess, but Blue Up is tribulus, long jack and some other stuff.

That should be alright for a longer period of time? Perhaps with a week break every 6 weeks or so?

 

[thebigt]

It is not certain that it's the same ingredient. I don't believe it's the same stuff.

i beta-tested the original brown caps of aspire, while the chemical make-up may not be identical the results are. plus pctabs contain trademarked testofen+6oxo metabolites. this truly is the best libido formula i have tried, so far. if you want to really jack it up[no pun intended], try 2 pctabs and a stim formula blue up. trust me on this, i just turned 50 and i have tried alot of libido enhancers.:hammer:

 

[jsp0785]

really pct tabs have aspire in the inrediants, i saw the word aspire, but i didnt know if that was true, they still selling this stuff?

it discontinued but existing quantities are being sold i'm guessing

 

[jsp0785]

It is not certain that it's the same ingredient. I don't believe it's the same stuff.

so how come the FDA made them take it off the market. aspire 36 worked the same as cialis.

 

[jsp0785]

i beta-tested the original brown caps of aspire, while the chemical make-up may not be identical the results are. plus pctabs contain trademarked testofen+6oxo metabolites. this truly is the best libido formula i have tried, so far. if you want to really jack it up[no pun intended], try 2 pctabs and a stim formula blue up. trust me on this, i just turned 50 and i have tried alot of libido enhancers.:hammer:

they are good. i'm liking the sustain alpha and toco 8. it's supposed to fix the problem be re-sensitizing the testicles so hopefully that's true

 

[luclyluciano]

I can personally say 6-0x0 was amazing after my Epi cycle this year. I'd be driving, see a female and almost had to pull over for a quickie many of times. I was on the verge of having uncontrollable libido. Problem is I had to dose the max, think it was 7-800 mgs maybe more. For bringing back Libido after cycle it worked quick, in 3-4 days. As for everyday use....too expensive and needed mega dose.

P.S, I'm 46 yrs young.