so it seems to me evo labs is trying to trick people

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  1. so it seems to me evo labs is trying to trick people


    I was scanning around and saw a new product they are throwing out called winevol.

    first off, the name is to trick ignorant people IMO.
    2nd off the ingredients are layed out to look like designers to people who dont know any better.


    ingredient profile:

    inEVOL Rx Pro-Anabolic Complex (Tribulus terrestris standardized to 20% (26-O-Beta-D-glyco- pyranosyl-22-hydroxyfurost-5-ene-3Beta, 26-diol-3-O-Beta- diglucorhamnoside), 2-(4-methoxyphenyl)-8-(3-methylbut-2-enyl)-7 [(2S,3R,4S, 5R,6R)-3,4,5-tri- hydroxy-6-(hydroxymethyl)oxan-2-yl] oxy-3-[[(2S,3S,4R,5S,6S) -3,4,5- trihydroxy- 6-methyl-oxan -2-yl]methoxy]chromen-4-one (Icarrin), 20- hydroxyecdysone, Ajuga turkestanica std. to 2 % (2▀,3▀,5▀,11alpha,22R) 2, 3,11,14,20,22,25- Hepatahyrdoxycholest-7-en-6-, Trigonella foenum graecum
    std. to 40% steroidal saponins, 10% (26-O-Beta-D- glycopyranosyl-22-
    hydroxyfurost-5-ene-3Beta, 26-diol-3-O-Beta-diglucorhamnoside), Eurycoma longifolia std. to 5% Glycosaponins, 4% Polysaccharides, Avena Sativa)

    winEVOL Rx Highly Evolved Thermogenic and Neural Enhanced Energy Matrix: 1222.5 mg

    Caffeine: (Guarana 99% Xanthines and Cocoa 99% Xanthine source)
    Synepherine, Guggle Extract standardized 98% Guggulsterones, L-Tyrosine, Thiamine Disulfide, 5-HTP (5-Hydroxytryptophan), Alpha Lipoic Acid and or R-ALA, Phenylalanine, Rhodiola Rosea Root Extract, SlimalumaÖ., Vanadyl, Maximowiczia Chinensis Extract, Phaseolus Vulgaris Extract, Hoodia Gordonii, L-Carnitine, in a complex Fiber blend.

    Anabolic & Thermogenic Multiplier Proprietary Complex: 65.3 mg

    Bioperine«., Bergamottin, Burpleurum, Hoelen Gonad Axis Proprietary Complex 49 mg
    Tribulus 40%, Kudzu, Maca, Dodder Seed

    Liver Assist & Antioxidant Proprietary Blend 229 mg

    Milk Thistle, Green Tea, ALA, MSM, Ginger, Red Kidney Bean, Fiber Matrix

    Adrenal Support Matrix 40 mg
    Bovine Adrenal Tissue

    Serving Size: 2 Tablets Servings Per
    winEVOL Rx Rapid & Time Release
    Sleep Aid proprietary blend.: 369 mg
    Valerian Root, 5-HTP, Melatonin
    winEVOL Rx Nocturnal GH Stimulator Complex.: 1434 mg
    Phenibut, Gamma Aminobutyric Acid (GABA), A-AKG, L-Ornithine, Vanadyl

    Other Ingredients: Dicalcium Phosphate, Micrystalline Cellulose,
    Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose, Polydextrose, FD&C Blue #1,
    FD&C Blue #2, Titanium Dioxide, FD&C Yellow #5, FD&C Yellow
    #6, Maltodextrin, Talc, Medium Chain Triglycerides, Sodium
    Carboxymethylcellulose, Dextrose, Lecithin (Soya). Contains Soy.
    ☣☣☣☣Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals Representative☣☣☣☣
    Mesomorph | Hemavo2 | Endurance | 100% Whey Protean | REM 8.0


  2. kitchen sink theory? something has to work.
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  3. yeah no doubt
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  4. the pm part of winevol works great. to me it works better than knockout. i really havent used the am part long enough to tell you whether it is any good. and yes i dont like the way its advertized either.

  5. WTF??? lol they write all those fancy names and numbers to sound legit, this type of sleezyness gives the supplement industry a bad name. wineVOl highly anvanced biometric super duper infused receptor complex (3b- 71 tri methy x7x7x7 gh 74.....lol I should make my own supplement!

  6. indeed. thats why i posted this. to show what some companies will try to do in order to deceive....just not fair to the unknowing. I like some of the ingredients yes, but their are just way too many IMO to have a good idea of what is actually working.
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  7. Tri-methyl!!!,.. my liver hurts!!!
    Think training's hard,. try losing!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by bonscott View Post
    Tri-methyl!!!,.. my liver hurts!!!
    where did you see that? Looks to be all natural to me.
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  9. Add up the MG's and you will see this is not very well put together at all. Would love to hear their side.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    where did you see that? Looks to be all natural to me.
    I think he was referring to Motox's post.
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  11. this stuff aint cheap either!!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by vaporeized View Post
    this stuff aint cheap either!!
    Marketing never is.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    I think he was referring to Motox's post.
    I was just making a joke lol

  14. yeah but every company does this...including the more reputable?, popular ones around here. Texas have u heard of the PSARM synthase ai complex, or the METHYL amp complex?

  15. Looks like winny to me
    Freedom means nothing here.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    yeah but every company does this...including the more reputable?, popular ones around here. Texas have u heard of the PSARM synthase ai complex, or the METHYL amp complex?
    No...explain?
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    yeah but every company does this...including the more reputable?, popular ones around here. Texas have u heard of the PSARM synthase ai complex, or the METHYL amp complex?
    Mooch... come on bro. I see where you're coming from and I see where you're going with this. I am not knocking on you for making the statement, but do it in a different tone to avoid disrespect towards a stellar company. Applied Nutraceuticals didn't call the product something like 'Stenoloject' or 'Trenbigalo'. lol.

    Funny you mention RPM, I'm taking it now at 1 cap AM (just started) and I remember now how much it kicks @$$.
    Freedom means nothing here.

  18. I was,.. my bad!!!
    Think training's hard,. try losing!

  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by TexasLifter89
    where did you see that? Looks to be all natural to me.

    I think he was referring to Motox's post.
    Quote Originally Posted by bonscott View Post
    I was,.. my bad!!!
    Think training's hard,. try losing!

  20. Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    No...explain?
    are u serious brotha?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    Mooch... come on bro. I see where you're coming from and I see where you're going with this. I am not knocking on you for making the statement, but do it in a different tone to avoid disrespect towards a stellar company. Applied Nutraceuticals didn't call the product something like 'Stenoloject' or 'Trenbigalo'. lol.

    Funny you mention RPM, I'm taking it now at 1 cap AM (just started) and I remember now how much it kicks @$$.

    Im not tryin to dog on app nut at all but this is a common practice, and all companies do it. if your dumb enough to buy a product because the name sounds like something that some dude at the gym told you he was taking, then u deserve to get ripped off.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    Im not tryin to dog on app nut at all but this is a common practice, and all companies do it. if your dumb enough to buy a product because the name sounds like something that some dude at the gym told you he was taking, then u deserve to get ripped off.
    I think the big deal here is them spelling out the chemical structure to fool the consumer into thinking it is something much more powerful than fenugreek.

    AN named their mixes something like methyl amp or whatever, but then went on to list each ingredient with its common name... the ones consumers understand.

    I looked at TestEVol or whatever, and that one is even worse. Loaded with every other herb people in this industry claims to boost testosterone, but instead is just an incredibly expensive libido booster.

    Adams
    The Historic PES Legend

  23. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    I think the big deal here is them spelling out the chemical structure to fool the consumer into thinking it is something much more powerful than fenugreek.

    AN named their mixes something like methyl amp or whatever, but then went on to list each ingredient with its common name... the ones consumers understand.

    I looked at TestEVol or whatever, and that one is even worse. Loaded with every other herb people in this industry claims to boost testosterone, but instead is just an incredibly expensive libido booster.

    Adams

    RPM from Applied Nutriceuticals - $29.95

    are you trying to say the common consumer knows what 98% oligometric proanthyocyanidis is? or for that matter anhydrous caffeine or methyl xanthine?
    again im not dogging on ap nut just stating that even the reputable companies have misleading or hard to understand lablels. the average person would have NO idea whats in rpm.

    oh and most of this thread was about the ingredients not the name

  24. Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    http://anabolicminds.com/store/1365.html

    are you trying to say the common consumer knows what 98% oligometric proanthyocyanidis is? or for that matter anhydrous caffeine or methyl xanthine?
    again im not dogging on ap nut just stating that even the reputable companies have misleading or hard to understand lablels. the average person would have NO idea whats in rpm.
    Now if you are going to come like that.. come correct my friend.

    P-SARM Synthase AI Complex:
    Icariin (50%)
    L-Arginine
    Grape Seed Extract
    (98% Oligometric Proanthyocyanidins)
    Naringin (98% Extract)
    Methyl AMP Complex:
    Chocamine
    Methyl Xanthine Anhydrous Caffeine

    As you can see, the Oli Pro is an extract from GRAPE SEED EXTRACT. So they show exactly what they put in it, then gave the exact compound they were aiming for.

    Methyl Xanthine Anhydrous Caffeine is exactly that... caffeine... no hiding there. They list exactly why TYPE of caffeine it is, but caffeine none the less.

    Now, lets compare
    Grape seed extract (98% Oli Pro) or 26-O-Beta-D- glycopyranosyl-22-
    hydroxyfurost-5-ene-3Beta, 26-diol-3-O-Beta-diglucorhamnoside.

    Now you tell me who is the shady one here.

    Adams
    The Historic PES Legend

  25. you just made my point, when app nut decided to say meythl xanthine anhydrous caffeine they were just putting window dressing on the fact that they have caffeine in rpm. now how is that any different than using the chemistry terminology used on winnevol. everthing on the label is in the bottle, they have just dressed up the ingredient list a little. every company does this...are u seeing the point here.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    you just made my point, when app nut decided to say meythl xanthine anhydrous caffeine they were just putting window dressing on the fact that they have caffeine in rpm. now how is that any different than using the chemistry terminology used on winnevol. everthing on the label is in the bottle, they have just dressed up the ingredient list a little. every company does this...are u seeing the point here.
    You are comparing Apples to Refrigerators (that one is for you Rob ). To say that the two are the same is just ridiculous. I made none of your points... I showed exactly the opposite. One is asinine, and one you can actually read.

    Adams
    The Historic PES Legend

  27. Now if they said l,3,7-trimethylxanthine as the ingredient... then it would be the same... not so much here.

    Adams
    The Historic PES Legend

  28. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Now if they said l,3,7-trimethylxanthine as the ingredient... then it would be the same... not so much here.

    Adams
    dude, ur hilarious....it is the exact same thing, evo labs just took it one step further...its all window dressing to make the product look better.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    dude, ur hilarious....it is the exact same thing, evo labs just took it one step further...its all window dressing to make the product look better.
    Not even in the same ballpark my friend... but you keep fighting that good fight.

    Adams
    The Historic PES Legend

  30. Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    you just made my point, when app nut decided to say meythl xanthine anhydrous caffeine they were just putting window dressing on the fact that they have caffeine in rpm. now how is that any different than using the chemistry terminology used on winnevol. everthing on the label is in the bottle, they have just dressed up the ingredient list a little. every company does this...are u seeing the point here.
    One thing you are missing here is that these are dietary supplements and the companys that put these out have to get them validated with the most current and up to date names of the ingredients used, and yes they do change! So when they have thier FDA and Legal Guys working out the label the put the exact type of caffeine on it.

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