very 'social' feelings supplement
- 09-20-2008, 05:08 PM
very 'social' feelings supplement
Can anyone recommend a supplement/nootropic/stimulant that gives very similar 'social' feelings as an illegal drug such as cocaine or mdma? I don't use either drug but I'd love a healthier alternative for that talkative "on" feeling. I was considering some PEA/Hordenine but I have my doubts.
I've tried certain nootropics such as L-huperzine A, Neurostim+C; certain stims such as bulk caffeine, stimulant x, primed ultra; certain non-otc such as modafinil. Each has there place, and each can make you a bit more social, but its not the same, and I don't use any regularly.
So if anyone knows what I'm talking about and could point me towards something (that's not illegal or by prescription) I'd appreciate it.
And to the easily offended I apologize for the cocaine/mdma reference but its hard to ask the question while beating around the bush.
- 09-20-2008, 06:14 PM
- 09-20-2008, 06:34 PM
some guys on here like phenibut as a social sup
09-20-2008, 06:37 PM
i have the pea hordenine from nutra. i use it as a study aid. I could see it help you be more social. i usually take 3-5 caps
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09-20-2008, 06:38 PM
there was a thread on here awhile back that talked about some substance that every one raved about...cant remember what it was though >.<
why, whats up, planning on talking to girls? lol
09-20-2008, 06:42 PM
09-20-2008, 06:44 PM
09-20-2008, 06:54 PM
Lol oxytocin came to mind. Sorry
PEA would be a start, along with a MAO inhibitor.
09-20-2008, 06:58 PM
geranium 25 mgs. 60 mgs is too intense.
I drank alcohol last night and woke up in the middle of sleep . I think it was due to the fact alcohol effects Rem. Its important to sleep all the way though, deep, uninterrupted sleep for total mental refreshments. When was the last time you woke up and felt like a million bucks? This is the sleep im talking about. to achieve this I found out whats needed is no other people making loud noises. I loved living alone for sleep now that I think back when I did. I was getting like 10-12 hours per night.
Pea/hordenine makes me feel disoriented after the feel good effects wear off. so I said no more for me. No pleasant to me. Tyrosine always works well.better than caffeine.
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09-20-2008, 07:00 PM
09-20-2008, 07:04 PM
geranium is good like smelt said but i do like 120mg haha... theres a reason why my adrenals are f'ed
09-20-2008, 07:10 PM
09-20-2008, 07:18 PM
2 grams of Holy Basil, 2 grams of L-Tyrosine and some coffee/caffiene.
It's reaaaal nice.
09-20-2008, 07:27 PM
09-20-2008, 08:30 PM
09-20-2008, 09:34 PM
09-20-2008, 09:39 PM
I picked up Kava Kava and Phenibut, after doing some late night thread searching, on here and both did not disappoint. Kava Kava gives me more of a buzzed feeling while Phenibut calms my nerves & eases any anxiety. I've been careful not to dose Phenibut too often as I've read that the effects will diminish with continual use and/or you could get hooked on it.
09-20-2008, 10:57 PM
1,3-dimethylamylamine. 60mgs on an empty stomach, or 120mg on a full stomach.
09-20-2008, 11:49 PM
09-20-2008, 11:50 PM
haha ya.. i like when he says... u took too much man, u took too much, too much
09-21-2008, 12:05 AM
I am an assistant manager at a Hotel (all customer service, all day). I usually go with 500 mg -1 g PEA, a cup of coffee (~200mg caffeine), 1g Vit C, and 1 B-complex tab on a semi-empty stomach. This is by far the best combo that works with my personal physiology, give it a shot. Within an hour I feel a definite attitude adjustment and am ready and willing to help customers and enjoy conversation with them
09-21-2008, 12:24 AM
The second stimulant X version with cocoalean, and the original stimulant X, were the KINGS of socialness even when considering ritalin/adderall,etc.. stim x rocks, the older version is coming back soon too...
09-21-2008, 01:59 AM
adderall, modafinil, caffeine, pea/low low dose maoi, ardafinil(legal precursor to moda) etoh, thats all i know.
09-21-2008, 02:00 AM
when I took my first 2 caps of stim x, I felt awesome. Also i played the best softball game of my life.
Now that I think about it, I did feel great mentally, quite open. Also I didnt feel the pain of skinning my left leg completely, getting my right ankle crushed, and having a softball that was hit nail me in my knee.
So i say stim x works well....with 1 small side....
so they are brining back the revered original formula for stim X is also what I have heard...wonder when?
09-21-2008, 04:23 AM
I just know DONT take RPM if you're planning on being friendly. It makes me want to rip heads off
09-21-2008, 02:48 PM
RPM definitely gets me into a pissy aggressive mood.
09-24-2008, 01:14 PM
Chocomine all the way! maybe take some ALC with it too.
09-24-2008, 04:14 PM
gaba or phenibut do the trick for me, but are almost better for just chilling and listening to music.
09-24-2008, 04:20 PM
09-25-2008, 12:42 AM
I would try a bliss shot and about 1200-1500mg of Phenibut. Take the Phenibut first, then an hour later, take the bliss shot. If you wanna get really wasted, take a double dose of the bliss shot. Man I was singing to myself for about two hours after that last time I took it.
09-25-2008, 12:50 AM
Sorry to be a bit OT but anyone have more details on the original stim x coming back out? Best social supp ever.
09-25-2008, 01:05 AM
1,3-dimethylamylamine and alcohol. Might not be the most responsible answer, but as per your original request for side effects, worth a shot.
09-25-2008, 02:23 PM
klonopin and 5-htp, tnt stack works for me
09-26-2008, 01:00 AM
Ephedrine, Chocamine, and caffeine do the trick for me.
09-26-2008, 02:35 PM
either the following
09-26-2008, 03:32 PM
You will notice two very different kinds of responses. Some people like to be brought up and others calmed down. You need to know which group you fit into then decide what works for you.
09-26-2008, 03:42 PM
09-26-2008, 03:52 PM
suprised no one has mention Get Diesels Ready4War. Its awesome. Dont forget to take some relora/ashwaganda to help you relax in the first place.
You could get some guarana tabs as well.
09-26-2008, 04:27 PM
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