Okay I am shocked
- 09-19-2008, 04:12 PM
Okay I am shocked
I am a little suprised that IDS post cycle tabs are not getting much love. IMO this is the most underrated pct/test booster around. This product works and is also cheap. I ran an 8 weeks cycle of tren/epi that consist of 1 bottle of xtreme tren and 2 bottles of epidrol. I ate whatever I want and whenever I want. My diet was not very clean to say, but I went from 205lbs to 227lbs. Now my libido was shot 4 weeks into the cycle, had no desire to get it on whatsoever. During PCT I took ids ptc and zma for 6 weeks. Did 4/3/3/2/2/2 during the 6 weeks. I got my libidio back to 100% 3 weeks into pct. I kept 95% of my strenght after pct and was able to keep my weight at 221lbs.
- 09-19-2008, 04:17 PM
eh, good stuff, man. but truth be told, once a company is decided to be a dud, not much of anything can save them. granted, they WILL keep their business from loyal customers and those who don't "know any better." but they will never be the pinnacle if they've screwed up. where did they screw up?
a while back they used to market their PH's through places like GNC and what not (before they were taken off the public market). and a lot of dumb kids hit em' up and grew tits. it gave a negative connotation to IDS's name. that's what i speculate happened anyhow. not to mention, they randomly made their sauce pills throwing in this and that and the other thing, making them HIGHLY dangerous to the novice AAS users (which most of them didn't even know they were on AAS) that took them. got two acquaintance at the university with bad gyno from their products, because they didn't even know what the acronym PCT was.
09-19-2008, 04:33 PM
Good posting Manimalia
Could not have said it better. They got a rep that will last them some time. Of course as you might be thinking well at least their products worked but for a company that is only half the battle.
Also... on this board you will find that 'many' people do not believe in a single product PCT nor OCT PCT. Happy to hear it worked great for you! Sadly though some people will need more but hat is what this great board is here for
09-19-2008, 04:34 PM
09-19-2008, 04:37 PM
09-19-2008, 04:46 PM
you mean like companies that put something like"monster caps" on their shelves then people unkowlingy purchase a mix of 3 methylated steroids.....and pop em like they are a test booster...
GNC, needs to burn to the ground. My friends were talking about how they want to start using fish oil for its health benefits(they are normies, they dont lift). But they said it was something like 20 bucks at GNC for some.... i know online its like...8-12 for some basic fish oil..... my fishoil is 90 softgels and was 10 bucks.
09-19-2008, 04:55 PM
09-19-2008, 05:00 PM
true, its always a nice improvement. I mean i support the idea of being able to use steroids, i may myself in the next year or so. Then again, I am putting a year or two of research in my thigh or down my throat, not just a pin or pill.( i have to weigh 160 at least before i do it)
I almost bought a ph when I first joined AM, thinking it was just a bulking agent. AM is the light lol, it shall pierce the deepest darnkess!
now if only MT/BSN would die....they arent steroid companies...but they are greedy thieves who trick new lifters/builders...
but there are still some college kids with the gyno....but most of its naturl though. I know a guy who is about 17 with my build, but has gyno even though he is skinny. but he uses no supps or stuff, just got it from puberty.
I can believe those cycle tabs work well, but generally what is popularyly vouched for is what is going to be used. Like manimalia said, once you have a bad rep its extremely hard to recover.
09-19-2008, 05:07 PM
09-19-2008, 05:10 PM
I'll have to try these per Nunes recomendation
Ive never used IDS products before, and am aware of their bad reputation, but for 30$ I'll throw it in as part of my next pct, see what all the rave is about.
09-19-2008, 05:15 PM
09-19-2008, 05:18 PM
09-19-2008, 06:28 PM
09-19-2008, 06:53 PM
i know someone whose used it with ADEX during PCT
his PCT looked like this
hcg 2000iu e3d for 5 shots
then IDS PCT TABS as directed
and .5mg ADEX the whole time!
the doc thought he was overdosing on clomid lolol
09-19-2008, 07:01 PM
09-19-2008, 07:38 PM
09-19-2008, 07:41 PM
I think you gonna like the pct tabs, test goes trough the roof, a lot of guys PM me asking if they are really good , the most part after a week PM me again saying they love the stuff, good luck in your cycle
09-20-2008, 08:45 AM
Why don't you post some before and after pics of the gyno, so others know what to expect when getting that kind of surgery?
09-29-2008, 11:57 PM
09-30-2008, 12:47 AM
09-30-2008, 01:15 AM
09-30-2008, 04:26 AM
I'd rather not run any of the stuff, to be honest, and just use creatine and sh*t. It's way better in the long run. Especially seeing these young guys run pH's with OTC post cycles. When you turn 40, is your plumbing still going to work? We'll just have to wait and find out.
Playing with Fire!
10-01-2008, 01:07 PM
10-01-2008, 01:10 PM
10-03-2008, 12:26 AM
It turns out they were out of stock even tho it said they were in stock. I hate venturing away from np lol. I would consider getting bloodwork done but personally i dont care enough to spend money on blood work for this.
10-03-2008, 12:28 AM
I would never use them as standalone for pct. SERM is something I will always use, but if they jack my libido up and make me feel good then im all for it because pct sucks!
10-03-2008, 01:43 AM
A serm is needed period, not just for gyno. Studies have been done to show that tamoxifen can activate LH & FSH to a more than appealing degree, IN INFERTILE MEN.
Though clomid is better, imho for direct HPTA. So is hcG if running simultaneously, but not with epi, in my opinion, it's to mild.
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10-03-2008, 12:36 PM
10-03-2008, 12:40 PM
10-03-2008, 06:00 PM
Servings Per Container:30
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Proprietary Post Cycle Blend 490mg
Tribulus (Standardized To A Minimum Of 20% Protodioscin), Milk Thistle, Testofen, 3, 17 Ketoetiochol-Triene, Aspire, 6, 17 Keto Etiocholeva-3-Ol Tetrahydropyranol, Saw Palmetto.
what the hell is aspire, is that refering to that aspire36 stuff?
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