Drastic loss in strength
- 09-19-2008, 03:28 PM
Drastic loss in strength
2 months ago I was benching 315 BB for 8, 115 DB for 8 (I was cycling then on Omnevol and V12, then I went onand Vault for another month) I am currently on Reversitol (2nd week). I take as my pre workout. I have noticed I have a drastic loss in strength, can't even get 250 for 5. Any ideas where I went wrong, and what I can do to fix it? Did I over cycle? Or is this normal until my test evens out after my pct? Or, maybe I needed to add something else with Reversitol for my PCT?
- 09-19-2008, 04:47 PM
your always going to loose strength coming off and INTO pct, when your body starts to come back to homeostasis you will get a little stronger, but that cycle was insane, how much u gain? and how much you lose?
get on some Primal MALE by man sports as a test booster as well, im sorry to hear that your strength went down soo much,
other then that, hows your libido, are the boys returning back to normal? you lethargic? you get any blood work done?
09-19-2008, 04:47 PM
sounds like you are extremly shut down. Reversitol is not enough for a cycle of omnevol you need nolvadex or toremifine. This is what will happen if you do not do a proper pct
09-19-2008, 05:33 PM
09-19-2008, 05:41 PM
09-19-2008, 05:42 PM
09-19-2008, 05:50 PM
your mistake was using just novedex XT, the dose for ATD is way too high
you can do reversitol with 6oxo (no more then 300mg) and you can add Primal male,
the fact that your weight is the same means that Reversitol did its job for the most part hopfeully within the next few weeks on reversitol weight will go back up on your lifts.
09-20-2008, 12:08 AM
09-20-2008, 12:54 PM
09-20-2008, 01:04 PM
Bottom line is your a moron. You were out of the gym for 4 years and started a steroid cycle 2 weeks before even touching a weight. Your rebound is going to be rough man. And on top of things, why did you feel the need to run two cycles back to back? I'm not familiar with omnevol except I'm quite sure is a coctail of harsh methyls, but isn't revolt a progestin? Keep a look out for some titties bro. You need to get on a serm and honestly, I would see a doctor, because you probably really screwed yourself up. Next time, get in the gym before taking steroids!!
09-20-2008, 01:06 PM
wow you really have no clue. thats what you get for not researching. Omnevol is a pure steroid and you need to have a good PCT. You didnt have a good PCT at all so you lost strength. Majority of people lose strength post cycle anyway but you are probably still really short of normal test production. If you have the novedext or the 6oxo i suggest you start it now.
Not lifting for 4 years and then jumping on a cycle is a big NO NO
09-20-2008, 01:11 PM
09-20-2008, 01:13 PM
09-20-2008, 01:36 PM
consider yourself lucky that you didn't pop a tendon lifting that kind of weight. get yourself some nolvadex. NOT novedex xt. get the real stuff. read the first post in this thread
No Excuses & No ***** ***: A Stupid People's Guide to PCT
09-20-2008, 03:17 PM
you had that backwards man....you dont not go to the gym for 4 years and then get on cycle, you GO to the gym for 4 years, then get on cycle.... see a doc, get some blood, pray your not too crapped up.
09-20-2008, 05:19 PM
09-20-2008, 10:02 PM
I know I f**ked up guys, and I am ok with all the chastising, and bashing. if I get a SERM real soon, can I recover from all this? In the mean time, I will take crazyfool405's advice, and stack 6 oxo with reversitol, and primal male. I should be able to get a SERM ordered and shipped by next week (dealing with hurricane Ike right now). Thanks for all your input guys.
09-21-2008, 12:45 AM
09-21-2008, 06:01 AM
chances are good that you'll recover once you get some nolvadex. i would run it for four weeks. 40mg the first week per day, then 30/20/10
you can run the 6oxo inversely to the nolva. (start with a low dose then ramp it up) good luck
09-21-2008, 07:03 PM
10-01-2008, 11:39 AM
10-01-2008, 03:48 PM
10-01-2008, 04:02 PM
If you are indeed very shut down which it sounds like you are possibly look into low dose clomid to run alongside or after nolva for the better HTPA stimulation. IMO it would be a better idea to drop the AI be it atd or 6-oxo once you have recieved your SERM and just run the nolva and/or clomid. After a few weeks of letting your estrogen levels rise along with test then add back in the AI to avoid rebound and further your recovery. Most likely along with test your estrogen levels are in the crapper too and suppressing them more with an AI will only lengthen the time it takes for recovery. Just my .02
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