Looking for 1 or 2 Supplement Changes/Additions! Advice needed!!

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Ok,

So within the past few months, I think 4, I have dropped roughly 68 pounds, and went from 268 to about 198-200, depending on water, and about 21-22% BF to under 12%. Needless to say, I look better, feel better, and want more.

I did all of it through hardcore diet, and a few key supplements, which are listed below. I am now looking for an addition to my supplement list, or to make a substitution. I am looking to make some slower, controlled gains, not gaining a huge amount of fat, but trying to optimize my muscle growth.

Any suggestions would be great.

I am not the most educated supplement user when it comes to more advanced supplements. (I know the basics well, Nitric Oxide, BCAAs, protein, etc.)

I am looking for something a little bit stronger than your normal supplements, but not 100% into gear just yet, I would love to make the gains without having to go straight for the needle.

Supplements:
BCAAs
Fish Oil
CLA
Recreate
Super Cissus
Adam- Multi
True Protein- Team Skip
True Protein- Morning Mix
True Protein- Midnight/ Night Mix
Beta Alanine (spelling?)
Waxy Maize Starch- Carb added to shakes
Napalm- More recently to help with the trouble areas.

Thanks for any advice!

Paul
 
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WOW that is GREAT!

Congrats on the weight loss!

I agree don't look at doing PHs yet. You may want to check out ACT X/STOKED! stack
 
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Give the Anabolic Pump and PowerFULL stack from USP Labs a try.

Adding these supplements to your arsenal will really make the most out of your diet and hard work in the gym.

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First off a big congratulations!

As for your questions, to help get that last bit of fat off if you're heading that route, I would suggest some Green Tea and Sesamin. DCP would be awesome, but it's OOS right now.

For some strength gains, a killer deal right now is http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/designer-supplements/activate-xtreme-stoked-stack.html . I'm not sure of your age, but this is a very potent way to boost your natural testosterone and free it up which leads to some explosive muscle growth! This just harnesses your own testosterone, and not anything more drastic.
 
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I don't see any creatine in there...or am I just blind?
 

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First that is a hell of a job on the weight loss, and you do deserve a lot of credit for the perseverence that it took to do that. To go along with the BA you already have you might want to look at Poseidon.

Per nimbus
*Poseidon Complex ™ Ascorbic Acid, Cyancobalamin, Folic Acid, Glutamine, Inositol, Magnesium Carbonate, Magnesium Phosphate, Magnesium Sulfate, Methylcobalamin, Niacin, Potassium Bicarbonate, Potassium Carbonate, Potassium Chloride, Pyrodoxine Hydrochloride, Sodium Bicarbonate, Taurine, Zinc Gluconate
Vitamin C(Ascorbic Acid) 750mg 1250%
Niacin (B-3) 75mg 250%
Vitamin B-6 (Pyrodoxine Hydrochloride) 5mg 50%
Folic Acid 200µg 50%
Zinc (Zinc Gluconate) 7mg 48%
Vitamin B-12 1000mcg 16666%
Potassium 350mg 10%
Magnesium 150mg 43%
Sodium 60mg 3%
*Poseidon Complex™ *5075mg ---
It really does enhance all other supps that you take.

Either way good luck
 
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congrats man! that is an accomplishment. I agree with Dsade...I think you need a creatine to add in their. maybe look into a natural T-booster type thing. Igf2, drive, activate extreme, stoked, mass fx maximum, blue gene. thsoe are the two things i would look into. one again good luck!
 
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Thanks for all the well wishes! I forgot to mention that I also take green tea extract, but your eyes are not fooling you, I am not on creatine. Also, I am not sure if I need a test booster, as I am only 24, but if it won't do any damage to me I don't see any problem in using it; as I said, I am not that educated with more advanced supps.

Thanks for all the help guys, and I appreciate any other suggestions.

Also, just so you all don't think I am some little dude, all my lifts are still up. Squat around 450-500, bench 365, dead lift 450. I bust my ass in the gym and just don't have a case of manorexia!

Paul
 
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you already told him blue gene. have you used it?
my bad. fixed. And for a short time. It was just a suggestion since I haven't really used too many "hormone" products and I seem to like it so far. How do you like it Texas?
 
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my bad. fixed. And for a short time. It was just a suggestion since I haven't really used too many "hormone" products and I seem to like it so far. How do you like it Texas?
havent used it yet. thats why i was asking.
 
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Thanks again for more suggestions.

So would blue gene be the way to go? Anyone my age try it?
 
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Thanks again for more suggestions.

So would blue gene be the way to go? Anyone my age try it?
Blue Gene is a terrific 'alternative' to hormonal products for making great gains and giving you a boost. I didn't catch your age, but based on other peoples suggestions I assume you are old enough to use said products.

Hard work, diet, exercise, high protein, creatine, vitamins and a few products like Blue Gene or Prime is all you need!
 
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I am 23, I am not sure if I need a test booster just yet? But I mean if it won't hurt me in the long run, or mess up my natural production of test, then I don't see a problem in using it.

Paul
 
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I am 23, I am not sure if I need a test booster just yet? But I mean if it won't hurt me in the long run, or mess up my natural production of test, then I don't see a problem in using it.

Paul
Blue Gene is completely natural & herbal. I'm 24, using Blue Gene very effectively. I say go for it, it's getting some good reviews (new product). I would also look into using a creatine; Green MAGnitude, Ragnarok or Neovar are geat choices.
 
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Build up from the base of the pyramid, and handle the basics first.
 
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Would you all suggest a simple, creatine mono to go with the ACTX/STOKED stack? Any specific brands of mono you all like, or any supplement that has creatine in it that you recommend over the simple mono?

Anything else basic that I am missing dsade?

Paul
 
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Would you all suggest a simple, creatine mono to go with the ACTX/STOKED stack? Any specific brands of mono you all like, or any supplement that has creatine in it that you recommend over the simple mono?

Anything else basic that I am missing dsade?

Paul
I prefer Creatine Gluconate, personally, as it has zero taste and no bloating. Creatine Malate is a close second.
 
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I like the looks of that there stack, especially for the price. How long will the sale be running?
Well it is suppose to be going for 2 weeks but I see it almost sold out in just over 12 hours last night

We will have to see about getting them restocked FAST!
 
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Thanks dsade! I have been looking into the creatine gluconate, and I think I will add it to my list. I am a fat kid gone lean, so I don't want all the bloating I once got from creatine di, a few years ago.

What do you all think about throwing in some white flood as well, to go along with the creatine, and perhaps blue gene or the activate/stoked stack?

I have heard that products like White flood and NOexplode are crap. I took NO for a long while in college, and have been off of everything NO and creatine related for about 6-7 months. I know it gives you a **** ton of energy, but other than that I am not sold. -- Thoughts?

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Thanks dsade! I have been looking into the creatine gluconate, and I think I will add it to my list. I am a fat kid gone lean, so I don't want all the bloating I once got from creatine di, a few years ago.

What do you all think about throwing in some white flood as well, to go along with the creatine, and perhaps blue gene or the activate/stoked stack?

I have heard that products like White flood and NOexplode are crap. I took NO for a long while in college, and have been off of everything NO and creatine related for about 6-7 months. I know it gives you a **** ton of energy, but other than that I am not sold. -- Thoughts?

Paul
I believe a boost in energy are what these products are after? I have used NOxplode before and it is ok, I think I would rather try White Flood though, as it has stims, which also means it would need to be cycled.
 
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Thanks dsade! I have been looking into the creatine gluconate, and I think I will add it to my list. I am a fat kid gone lean, so I don't want all the bloating I once got from creatine di, a few years ago.

What do you all think about throwing in some white flood as well, to go along with the creatine, and perhaps blue gene or the activate/stoked stack?

I have heard that products like White flood and NOexplode are crap. I took NO for a long while in college, and have been off of everything NO and creatine related for about 6-7 months. I know it gives you a **** ton of energy, but other than that I am not sold. -- Thoughts?

Paul
The White FLOOD is a pre workout energizer / NO product. They aren't really crap, they provide you to workout more intensely in the gym, lifting heavier weights, therefor stimulating more muscle.
 
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Hey how do I load Creatine Gluconate? I have read that since it is bonded with the glucose that I don't have to load. Just want to make sure.

What is a good dose for Creatine Gluconate per serving?

Also- I am thinking about taking JP8, or white flood, anyone have a preference between the two? I am hearing good things about JP8.

Will most likely do the Blue Gene, or Activate Extreme/Stoked stack, which is better?

Pauly
 
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Hey how do I load Creatine Gluconate? I have read that since it is bonded with the glucose that I don't have to load. Just want to make sure.

What is a good dose for Creatine Gluconate per serving?

Also- I am thinking about taking JP8, or white flood, anyone have a preference between the two? I am hearing good things about JP8.

Will most likely do the Blue Gene, or Activate Extreme/Stoked stack, which is better?

Pauly
There's no loading with creatine gluconate. Just do the recommended serving everyday,
 
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Has anyone ever suffered from hair loss on Blue Gene or the Activate Extreme/Stoked stack? I don't really want to lose hair any sooner than I must.
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Has anyone ever suffered from hair loss on Blue Gene or the Activate Extreme/Stoked stack? I don't really want to lose hair any sooner than I must.
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I personally haven't it seen that with any of these products, but anything is possible.
 
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Who has used HyperTrop-X with positive results? Would this go well with Blue Gene, and has anyone had any major hair loss with these natural test boosters?

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Also, how do you pulse activate and stoked together?
ACT X 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 spaced through the day with or without food.

STOKED! 2 caps in AM 2 caps in PM with or without food.
 

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Who has used HyperTrop-X with positive results? Would this go well with Blue Gene, and has anyone had any major hair loss with these natural test boosters?

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There are alot of people here that ran logs of HyperTrop X that had great results. Check in the logs section and there are plenty there.
 

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