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Old 09-17-2008, 06:19 PM   #31
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Without colostrum, babies will never reach their normal genetic potential. They'll literally be the runt of the litter in school. This is why doctors always recommend breast milk as long as possible.

Edit: Baby grip strengths are actually way higher when they're on breast milk. Once they stop they lose most of that strength and grip strength becomes normal. Grip strength btw is a genetic leftover to humans from monkeys. Baby monkeys had to have massive grip strength to cling to their mothers while their moms swing or climb from tree to tree.

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I've read that colostrum plays a big part in babies growth rates. I wouldn't be surprised if it were extremely effective for muscle growth, in sufficient quantities.
 



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Without colostrum, babies will never reach their normal genetic potential. They'll literally be the runt of the litter in school. This is why doctors always recommend breast milk as long as possible.
You guys think it has that it is potent enough to make someone grow at an increased testosterone rate?
 
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You guys think it has that it is potent enough to make someone grow at an increased testosterone rate?
thats the question every1 wants to know
 



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Bovine colostrum (BC) has been reported to enhance immune function, reduce fat accumulation and facilitate the movement of glucose to the muscle. However, very few attempts have been made to examine its anti-diabetic effects in diabetes patients. The aim of this study was to evaluate whether BC decreases blood glucose, as well as cholesterol, triglyceride (TG) and ketones levels, which can be elevated by obesity and stress in Type 2 diabetic patients. Sixteen patients (men=8, women=8) with Type 2 diabetes were randomized into the study. Each ingested 5 g of BC on an empty stomach every morning and night for 4 weeks. Blood glucose, ketones (beta-hydroxybutyric acid), total cholesterol and TGs were measured every week. In both the men and women, blood glucose levels at 2 and 8 h postprandial decreased continually during the experimental period. The rate of decrease in blood glucose at 8 h postprandial was not different between the men and women, but was higher in the women (14.25+/-2.66) than in the men (10.96+/-1.82%) at 2 h postprandial. Total cholesterol and TG levels decreased significantly in both the men and women after 4 weeks. Also, beta-hydroxybutyric acid level decreased with BC ingestion, but this was not significant. These results suggest that BC can decrease levels of blood glucose and ketones, as well as reduce cholesterol and TGs, all of which may cause complications in Type 2 diabetic patients.
 
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Isn't colostrum what's in Protein Factory's Acne Eraser?
 



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Isn't colostrum what's in Protein Factory's Acne Eraser?
bovine colostrum was hot in gnc's 5-6 years ago as an anti-aging cure all. if gnc couldn't peddle it either it was a crappy brand or it wasn't all that. i know they were recommending it for everything from sinusitis to migraines. yeah right.
 
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Lol, they might have gone overboard. Like what echinacea is today (cure-all.) I don't think it would hurt to supplement with it though. It does increase your immune system's resistance to everything, it doesn't CURE. That's a big difference. It's like comparing vitamins and tylenol.
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Its costly.... I just bought 500grams for $55AU.. so Im gonna trial it at like 20 grams a day!!
 
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Lol, they might have gone overboard. Like what echinacea is today (cure-all.) I don't think it would hurt to supplement with it though. It does increase your immune system's resistance to everything, it doesn't CURE. That's a big difference. It's like comparing vitamins and tylenol.
i agree, i can't see it being a bad thing.
 
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This is not a miracle standalone product by any means...it may help contribute slightly when everything else is in place.
 



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Impact of differing protein sources and a creatine containing nutritional formula after 12 weeks of resistance training.
Kerksick CM, Rasmussen C, Lancaster S, Starks M, Smith P, Melton C, Greenwood M, Almada A, Kreider R.

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OBJECTIVE: We evaluated whether colostrum (Col) or an isocaloric and isonitrogenous blend of whey and casein in addition to creatine (Cr) affects body composition, muscular strength and endurance, and anaerobic performance during resistance training. METHODS: Forty-nine resistance-trained subjects participated in a standardized 12-wk total body resistance training program. In a double-blind and randomized manner, subjects supplemented their diet with a protein control (Pro), Pro/Col, Pro/Cr, or Col/Cr. Supplements were isocaloric and isonitrogenous and provided 60 g/d of casein/whey (Pro) or Col as the protein source. At 0, 8, and 12 wk of supplementation, subjects were weighed, had body composition determined using dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry (DXA), performed one-repetition maximum (1RM) and 80% of 1RM tests on the bench press and leg press, and 30-s anaerobic sprint capacity tests. Data (mean +/- SD) were analyzed by repeated measures analysis of variance and reported as raw data in all tables and as changes from baseline for all figures for the Pro, Pro/Col, Pro/Cr, and Col/Cr groups, respectively. RESULTS: Resistance training increased 1RM strength, muscular endurance, and anaerobic sprint capacity equally in all groups. Significant main and interaction effects (P < 0.05) were found for body mass, DXA total scanned mass, and fat-free mass (FFM; lean plus bone), whereas no changes (P > 0.05) were noted for fat mass, percent fat, or bone content. Post hoc analysis showed that, compared with Pro, subjects ingesting Pro/Col, Pro/Cr, and Col/Cr showed greater gains in body mass and DXA total scanned mass. Subjects ingesting Pro/Cr and Col/Cr had greater increases in FFM during training in comparison with Pro/Col. CONCLUSION: In conjunction with 12 wk of resistance training, ingestion of Col or a blend of whey and casein protein with a vitamin/mineral supplement containing Cr resulted in greater improvements in FFM in comparison with Pro and Pro/Col.
 



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Thanks for the input dsade. I was curious about muscle milk cuz they said they tried to mimic actual mothers milk or "natures milk" so I foudn that is has colostrum in it. I am going to email cytosport and see if they can give me an exact amount and where it was extracted from because it says extracted colostrum.
 
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Thanks for the input dsade. I was curious about muscle milk cuz they said they tried to mimic actual mothers milk or "natures milk" so I foudn that is has colostrum in it. I am going to email cytosport and see if they can give me an exact amount and where it was extracted from because it says extracted colostrum.
Most likely Bovine.
 



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Most likely Human.
Hey, if a restaraunt in Schweitz can do it...

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VERMONT -- People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals sent a letter to Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, cofounders of Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc., urging them to replace cow's milk they use in their ice cream products with human breast milk, according to a statement recently released by a PETA spokeswoman.

"PETA's request comes in the wake of news reports that a Swiss restaurant owner will begin purchasing breast milk from nursing mothers and substituting breast milk for 75 percent of the cow's milk in the food he serves," the statement says.

PETA officials say a move to human breast milk would lessen the suffering of dairy cows and their babies on factory farms and benefit human health.

The fact that human adults consume huge quantities of dairy products made from milk that was meant for a baby cow just doesn't make sense