Too many staples?
- 09-14-2008, 06:36 PM
Too many staples?
So I know I'm an addict. but I'm just wondering if this is too many staples:
Multi - 2 MVP / 3 Orange Triad
Whey - (Post WO only)
Fish Oil - (0-15g - its in my mini fridge and i forget about it)
BCAA/EAA - (during WO / late night if I wake up)
AAKG powder (4g during WO)
Poseidon (4g during WO)
Taurine (4g x 2 - Pre and Post / more on DL day)
Beta Alanine ( 3g x 2 - Pre and Post)
Citrulline Malate (2g x 2 - P and P)
GABA (1-2g x 2 - P and P)
ZMK ( 3 nightly / 4 on lower body days)
Glutamine ( +10g nightly)
Valerian Root (2 nightly)
Relora ( 1x2 wake up and bedtime)
Theanine ( 1x2 wake up and nightly)
Been doing most of this for about 9 months now. I stopped AP and pSlin because I felt them lose their effectiveness. I'd appreciate any input thanks!
- 09-14-2008, 06:38 PM
Looks solid to me... everything has its place, and is of the most basic. Get some Reverse in there
You should be feeling pretty healthy on that, do you not?
AdamsThe Historic PES Legend
09-14-2008, 06:54 PM
Sweet, quick reply! Whats reverse? Yea I always feel really good, I rarely get sick too. I'm mostly into recovery supps because I have a habit of over training. Over the last year I've incorporated different types of training so I don't overdue it in the gym.
09-14-2008, 07:07 PM
The Historic PES Legend
09-14-2008, 08:00 PM
09-14-2008, 08:10 PM
Are they noticeably helping you? I don't really like the idea of staple supplements. I know tons and tons and tons of guys who have gotten friggin HUGE without taking any sort of supplement. I like to think my money can be better spent elsewhere.
09-14-2008, 08:38 PM
Yea they are helping, if you want I can go into each one. This has been an accumulation of supplements over the years, I'm 29 y/o now. I've been getting into supps in the last 4-5 years. My intent is not to get 'huge' just be surprisingly strong for my size and fast. It wouldn't help me being a 200lb rock climber
Plus I have a very decent yearly cash incentive from a health care plan to stay close to my BMI and sitting at 175 I'm kind of too heavy to receive the full incentive. So now I have to incorporate a slight cut at least once a year now to take advantage of it.
09-14-2008, 08:57 PM
I wonder the same thing sometimes, most of your stuff seems pretty good. Your not alone though, heres some of my 'staples':
Ax perfect cycle(Nac,rala, milk thistle)
NOW Acidophilus & Bifidus(or gut health when its onsale)
I work alot of OT to pay for my habit
Not to mention all the other stuff
09-14-2008, 09:30 PM
Look into a new product coming out soon called "Essentials"... should take the quantity of your supps down a little.
09-14-2008, 09:32 PM
09-14-2008, 09:47 PM
09-14-2008, 10:03 PM
Ive used a large array of supps and once had over 60-80 bottles unopened or in use. Consider a healthy human needs balance.
Balance of macros and acid/alkalyn food items. Its very toxic to eat/ingest all that, your body has to break down filter process and absorb/store it.
You were made the way your were intended... perfect.
I think to add a little something somthing is good and ensuring your getting adequate nutrition is always important.
But really did you post his because you wanted to brag or are your seriously thinking that is what your human body needs/wants? Im not flaming here but honestly you need fruit veggies grains meat water and minerals..... This is a marketed world willing to push anything on anyone who will pay and there are some great supps out there that produce the expected result. "Supplementing" refers to filling in the gaps of a solid base or adding in, not in my mind anywhere near to the extent you have taken it.
I suspect such a lifestyle likens buying a car tuning it filling it with performance fluids and lubricants and driving it really really hard. Only you switch out burnt out parts when somthing goes and it always does.
Despite the "scientific studies" your body was never intended to ingest those things esp in those amounts/dosages. If you were meant to have it it would be in your food in those dosages. I believe our foods nutritional values diminished some due to mass production fertilizers and hormone fed animals and chemical filled water.
For me to justify that type of expense/risk you wold have to gain muscle and strength at an astonishing unrelenting rate. You have probably developed a psycological and physical dependance on some supplements and any attempts to limit usage or missing a dose could have detrimental affects to the outcome of your workout potentially, this would only serve to make you think you "need" them and i would argue you dont.
You might have reached a point in training where its become slightly mundane at times and a "new" supp makes you exited to get the pump and push the limits just like the last one did.
Sure you could use all those supps but consider what happens to your sewer if you flushed all your garbage down the toilet.... it would be fine for along time but eventually and inevitably you will encounter costly problems, i mean this in a figurative and realistic sense. Its also very likely in reality you do have very expensive poop. All the best and GL. SWG
Last edited by somewhatgifted; 09-15-2008 at 04:26 PM.
09-14-2008, 10:04 PM
while that is a lot of staples on paper, you'd be better off sticking with all of those well thought out staples than trying every new hype supplement and getting little to nothing out of them (hell even with all those staples, they are all reasonably priced in bulk, so your likely not even spending as much as the guy who tries 2+ new hyped up supps each month).
The way I figure you've got your supplement regimen figured out very well.
09-14-2008, 10:04 PM
09-15-2008, 12:00 AM
Sorry but I don't brag, and I know your not flaming.
The reason I posted was because I didn't take everything home with me when I visited my family last month, and when I came back I said ok time to get back on schedule. I looked at some stuf and I was like, "hmm, I forgot the dosing requirements of this and the timing of that."
I realize I got carried away with supplements after I had a leg injury and was looking for anything to help me make up for lost time. Luckily my gf talked me out of using m1t.
I've justified my use of supplements by explaining that I have no other vices, drinking, smoking, or illegal drugs. But I certainly have an addiction to NP sales, especially the 4th of July sale. I said that was going to be my last excessive supplement purchase. I've already broken that little promise to myself with the USP release of PRIME. I just had to see what the special gift was....
Anyway all this is going to come to an end when I graduate this year and have to start working all day. At least then I'll be able to do what I really want to do on the weekends: rock climbing, skiiing, and all sorts of other stuff.
Thanks for all the replies!!
09-15-2008, 01:52 AM
09-15-2008, 03:47 AM
09-15-2008, 12:27 PM
We are coming very near that. Some Reverse and some of our new ESSENTIALS.
Micronized Creatine Monohydrate 5 grams per day
BCAAs 7 grams per day
Beta Alanine 3.2 grams per day
Joint Support 2100 mg Glucosamine Sulfate, Chondrotin Sulfate
Flexability Support 2500 mg Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM) Bromelain, CetylMyristoleate (CMO 20%), Turmeric Extract (Curcumin) Turmeric Root P.E. 95% Hyaluronic Acid
09-15-2008, 12:39 PM
09-15-2008, 03:29 PM
09-15-2008, 03:39 PM
maybe next time ill just use colorful animations and expletives. Its remarkable that i can make a post that was atleast an honest attept to adress a question and people come along and contribute "i dont like the spacing on your post."
I guess the thing to do was to say **** yeah eat everything and long posts are gay and im buff and everyone else is beneath me and my manly muscles, pffft thinking is gay!
Lets completely miss the message and find somthing to bich about.
Instead of offering a counter argument for the production of the board you just find something obvious to pick at because its not worth your time to read the posts and to ignrantly discount its value bc isnt perty to look at. Ive got a muscly avatar and that means i dont have to do anything on here i mean im just here to stroke my ego and find somthing to complain about! If i had said fck yeah bro go hard or go home then noone would complain! :chick:ose:
Eye liek juise
I eat lots. LOL
09-15-2008, 03:41 PM
09-15-2008, 03:43 PM
09-15-2008, 03:47 PM
09-15-2008, 04:21 PM
09-15-2008, 04:28 PM
09-15-2008, 04:29 PM
SWG probably has one of the awesome 24 inch wide screen lcd monitors, where the letters are nice and big, I bet he forgets about us folk with 17-19 inch monitors reading scrunched up sentences.
just messin with ya
09-15-2008, 04:31 PM
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