has anyone tried biotest Rhodiola?

  1. Registered User
    comacho's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    388
    Answers
    0

    has anyone tried biotest Rhodiola?


    its like 18% concentrate,,,any feedback on that stuff?

    i thought Ameriden's Rosavin was the best quality.

    thanks in advance.

  2. Running with the Big Boys
    Board Sponsor
    poison's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Age
    40
    Posts
    5,904
    Answers
    0


    Higher potency sucks ass, gave me migraines.
  3. Registered User
    freezito's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  270 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    2,974
    Answers
    0


    i use now rhodiola and it works great
    •   
       

  4. Registered User
    LatSpread's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    999
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by freezito View Post
    i use now rhodiola and it works great
    x2, dont overpay for biotest

    Rhodiola=great, Biotest=bad
  5. Registered User
    comacho's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    388
    Answers
    0


    thanks for the honest feedback guys, much appreciated
  6. Running with the Big Boys
    Board Sponsor
    Eric Potratz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    2,831
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by LatSpread View Post
    x2, dont overpay for biotest

    Rhodiola=great, Biotest=bad
    Why do you say?

    -Pp
  7. Registered User
    Xodus's Avatar
    Stats
    6'4"   lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Age
    41
    Posts
    1,902
    Answers
    0


    Nothing wrong with Biotest's stuff.

    Their protein is some of the best tasting out there.
  8. Registered User
    Schmazz's Avatar
    Stats
    6'3"  212 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    109
    Answers
    0


    Agreed, Biotest is not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be.

    I agree that their advertising is a bit of over the top, and some of their products are way overpriced. However, a lot of their products are top notch, and compared to some of the other companies products, are not priced too badly.
  9. Registered User
    LatSpread's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    999
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    Why do you say?

    -Pp
    because their ridiculous pricing as well as the BS on T Nation, some of the worst info out there IMO

    clearly, the OP could just buy some bulk rhodiola, or the NOW brand if they have some, for a far more reasonable price.
  10. Banned
    justreading's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  226 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    1,693
    Answers
    0


    Yeah really if you do the math...why bother... I think Now's is like 3-4% but there are 500mg/cap VS. 100mg/cap for biotest... Why bother paying twice as much for equal actives?

    makes no sense
  11. Registered User
    LatSpread's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    999
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Yeah really if you do the math...why bother... I think Now's is like 3-4% but there are 500mg/cap VS. 100mg/cap for biotest... Why bother paying twice as much for equal actives?

    makes no sense
    exactly, thx for backing my point.
  12. Registered User
    ralph4u2c's Avatar
    Stats
    5'7"  202 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Age
    27
    Posts
    759
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Schmazz View Post
    Agreed, Biotest is not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be.

    I agree that their advertising is a bit of over the top, and some of their products are way overpriced. However, a lot of their products are top notch, and compared to some of the other companies products, are not priced too badly.
    i agree to some degree. i think the tactics they use are far to over the top, as some other companies, so i just stay away from them and dont even bother. they do seem to have high quality when it comes to meeting label claims but i find they are WAY overpriced on almost all of their item. i could make a product similar to theirs for 1/2 the price and twice the cycle length.

    as far as RR is concerned, i see no reason for a really high potency if you are looking for a singled-out RR product by itself. 3-4% works fine for almost all users with the normal recommended dose but be careful because to much RR will had some ill-effects. most notable side is sleepiness, headaches, and a general sense of not feeling 100%. if you just want to try RR by itself, try NOW RR caps.
  13. Registered User
    strategicmove's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    10,763
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by ralph4u2c;
    ..

    as far as RR is concerned, i see no reason for a really high potency if you are looking for a singled-out RR product by itself. 3-4% works fine for almost all users with the normal recommended dose but be careful because to much RR will had some ill-effects. most notable side is sleepiness, headaches, and a general sense of not feeling 100%. if you just want to try RR by itself, try NOW RR caps.
    Generally agree. Successful clinicals that established Rhodiola Rosea's adaptogenic properties used standardized extractions yielding 3% rosavins (rosavin, rosarin, and rosin) and 1% salidrosides, the same ratio available in the natural root. These rosavins and salidrosides must be collectively present for rhodiola rosea to produce desired effects. Consequently, I am not sure if standardizing for 15% rosavins alone would yield the same pharmacological results.
    Product Educator | USPowders
    Statements made by this online persona are the sole property of the owner, and do not necessarily reflect USPowders’ opinion as a whole.
  14. Registered User
    ralph4u2c's Avatar
    Stats
    5'7"  202 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Age
    27
    Posts
    759
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Consequently, I am not sure if standardizing for 15% rosavins alone would yield the same pharmacological results.
    it may but the dosage will most likely be significantly lower. these type of higher extracts are usually used and good for a proprietary blend of some sort with other ingredients when the total dosage amount must fall into a certain range so everything can fit in a certain size capsules. other than that and especially if you are looking to try RR by itself, just stick to a lower extract and save yourself some money.
  15. Registered User
    djbombsquad's Avatar
    Stats
    5'5"  150 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    6,833
    Answers
    0


    Who made the myostatin blocker again. Was it biotest I forget.
  16. Registered User
    strategicmove's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    10,763
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by ralph4u2c;
    it may but the dosage will most likely be significantly lower. these type of higher extracts are usually used and good for a proprietary blend of some sort with other ingredients when the total dosage amount must fall into a certain range so everything can fit in a certain size capsules. other than that and especially if you are looking to try RR by itself, just stick to a lower extract and save yourself some money.
    I understand the proprietary blend and dosage issues, yet the standardization is more important, in my opinion. Extracting for 15% rosavins alone (as in Biotest Rhodiola) is pharmacologically not the same as extracting for 3% rosavins and 1% salidrosides (as in successful clinicals). Rhodiola Rosea is one of my favourite herbs, by the way, and my preference has always been the 3:1 ratio of active adaptogens found in the actual plant.
    Product Educator | USPowders
    Statements made by this online persona are the sole property of the owner, and do not necessarily reflect USPowders’ opinion as a whole.
  17. NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
    Board Sponsor
    Steveoph's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"   lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    12,524
    Answers
    0


    I was originally interested in Biotest's Rhodiola, UNTIL I realized that you can get the same amount of Rosavin's by buying http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/n...ps-500-mg.html at 1/2 the price!! Not to mention the other useful stuff that is outside of the rosavins. Do the math (someone on AM pointed it out to me,I can't recall who right now, my apologies.)
  18. Jag
    Jag is offline
    Registered User
    Jag's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  272 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    667
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by ralph4u2c View Post
    i agree to some degree. i think the tactics they use are far to over the top, as some other companies, so i just stay away from them and dont even bother. they do seem to have high quality when it comes to meeting label claims but i find they are WAY overpriced on almost all of their item. i could make a product similar to theirs for 1/2 the price and twice the cycle length.

    as far as RR is concerned, i see no reason for a really high potency if you are looking for a singled-out RR product by itself. 3-4% works fine for almost all users with the normal recommended dose but be careful because to much RR will had some ill-effects. most notable side is sleepiness, headaches, and a general sense of not feeling 100%. if you just want to try RR by itself, try NOW RR caps.
    I've heard about these ill-effects from RR. Do you know at what dose these start occuring and for how long?

    I am using NOW 500mg caps at 1 cap only and have been considering taking 2. This is a staple for me now.

    Jag
  19. Registered User
    small_guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Age
    39
    Posts
    279
    Answers
    0


    Stupid question but ability to increase the body's capacity to adapt to stressful conditions is really vague in terms of effectiveness. So is this product a cortisol lowering in nature then?
  20. Jag
    Jag is offline
    Registered User
    Jag's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  272 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    667
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by small_guy View Post
    Stupid question but ability to increase the body's capacity to adapt to stressful conditions is really vague in terms of effectiveness. So is this product a cortisol lowering in nature then?
    I've read that it balances cortisol. Brings it down when it's high and brings it up when it's low.
  21. Banned
    justreading's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  226 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    1,693
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    I was originally interested in Biotest's Rhodiola, UNTIL I realized that you can get the same amount of Rosavin's by buying http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/n...ps-500-mg.html at 1/2 the price!! Not to mention the other useful stuff that is outside of the rosavins. Do the math (someone on AM pointed it out to me,I can't recall who right now, my apologies.)
    Yup, we discussed that on PM. I liked NP Rhod that I used to make tea when you sold bulk. Definetly was super dosing which people say is bad but its the only way I got the calming effect. It really made me feel buzzed sometimes.
  22. Jag
    Jag is offline
    Registered User
    Jag's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  272 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    667
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Yup, we discussed that on PM. I liked NP Rhod that I used to make tea when you sold bulk. Definetly was super dosing which people say is bad but its the only way I got the calming effect. It really made me feel buzzed sometimes.
    justreading, what sort of doses do you call super dosing? I've thought about upping my dose from 500mg for a while but i can't find much on higher doses.

    i'm glad this thread got bumped as it reminded me to order some more.
  23. Banned
    justreading's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  226 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    1,693
    Answers
    0


    i dont remember exactly but i want to say 1.5g in a tea so it hit quicker
  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Rhodiola rosea
    By Jag in forum Supplements
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 08-11-2008, 03:31 PM
  2. Rhodiola (Rhodiola rosea) + L-Theanine vs. Relax-All
    By fatburner2007 in forum Supplements
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 04-09-2007, 05:26 AM
  3. Rhodiola
    By ECTOmorph in forum Nutraplanet
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-16-2006, 02:39 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in