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Old 09-10-2008, 07:49 PM   #1
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has anyone tried biotest Rhodiola?

its like 18% concentrate,,,any feedback on that stuff?

i thought Ameriden's Rosavin was the best quality.

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Higher potency sucks ass, gave me migraines.
 



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i use now rhodiola and it works great
 
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i use now rhodiola and it works great
x2, dont overpay for biotest

Rhodiola=great, Biotest=bad
 



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Old 09-12-2008, 08:20 AM   #5
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thanks for the honest feedback guys, much appreciated
 
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x2, dont overpay for biotest

Rhodiola=great, Biotest=bad
Why do you say?

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Nothing wrong with Biotest's stuff.

Their protein is some of the best tasting out there.
 



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Agreed, Biotest is not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be.

I agree that their advertising is a bit of over the top, and some of their products are way overpriced. However, a lot of their products are top notch, and compared to some of the other companies products, are not priced too badly.
 
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Why do you say?

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because their ridiculous pricing as well as the BS on T Nation, some of the worst info out there IMO

clearly, the OP could just buy some bulk rhodiola, or the NOW brand if they have some, for a far more reasonable price.
 



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Yeah really if you do the math...why bother... I think Now's is like 3-4% but there are 500mg/cap VS. 100mg/cap for biotest... Why bother paying twice as much for equal actives?

makes no sense
 



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Yeah really if you do the math...why bother... I think Now's is like 3-4% but there are 500mg/cap VS. 100mg/cap for biotest... Why bother paying twice as much for equal actives?

makes no sense
exactly, thx for backing my point.
 



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Old 09-14-2008, 11:23 AM   #12
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Agreed, Biotest is not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be.

I agree that their advertising is a bit of over the top, and some of their products are way overpriced. However, a lot of their products are top notch, and compared to some of the other companies products, are not priced too badly.
i agree to some degree. i think the tactics they use are far to over the top, as some other companies, so i just stay away from them and dont even bother. they do seem to have high quality when it comes to meeting label claims but i find they are WAY overpriced on almost all of their item. i could make a product similar to theirs for 1/2 the price and twice the cycle length.

as far as RR is concerned, i see no reason for a really high potency if you are looking for a singled-out RR product by itself. 3-4% works fine for almost all users with the normal recommended dose but be careful because to much RR will had some ill-effects. most notable side is sleepiness, headaches, and a general sense of not feeling 100%. if you just want to try RR by itself, try NOW RR caps.
 



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as far as RR is concerned, i see no reason for a really high potency if you are looking for a singled-out RR product by itself. 3-4% works fine for almost all users with the normal recommended dose but be careful because to much RR will had some ill-effects. most notable side is sleepiness, headaches, and a general sense of not feeling 100%. if you just want to try RR by itself, try NOW RR caps.
Generally agree. Successful clinicals that established Rhodiola Rosea's adaptogenic properties used standardized extractions yielding 3% rosavins (rosavin, rosarin, and rosin) and 1% salidrosides, the same ratio available in the natural root. These rosavins and salidrosides must be collectively present for rhodiola rosea to produce desired effects. Consequently, I am not sure if standardizing for 15% rosavins alone would yield the same pharmacological results.
 



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Consequently, I am not sure if standardizing for 15% rosavins alone would yield the same pharmacological results.
it may but the dosage will most likely be significantly lower. these type of higher extracts are usually used and good for a proprietary blend of some sort with other ingredients when the total dosage amount must fall into a certain range so everything can fit in a certain size capsules. other than that and especially if you are looking to try RR by itself, just stick to a lower extract and save yourself some money.
 



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Who made the myostatin blocker again. Was it biotest I forget.
 
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