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    Exclamation 6-oxo Advisery.


    I'm not trying to scare anyone away from the supplement, apparently, from what I've read, it's top notch AI. As well, Ergophram is a reputable company and my intentions are not to slander the company in any way.

    The reason I'm posting this is because I'm considering using 6-oxo, (I already had 2 bottles purchased), and among my intensive internet browsing and research I came across and Canadian Health Advisory stating a serious health issue, quoting the first paragraph of the article;

    "Health Canada is warning consumers not to use the dietary supplements 6-OXO (4-androstene-3,6,17-trione) and 1-AD (1-androstenediol), or any other supplements containing the ingredients 4-androstene-3,6,17-trione or 1-androstenediol, due to potentially serious health risks such as seizures and blood clots in the brain that can lead to disability."

    Being a fairly recent article, it may not be common knowledge for most and I encourage everyone to take a quick read through. If anyone would like to contribute to this information with personal trial, please do so. As for the website itself, search google "Canada 6 oxo" and it should be the first site amongst the list.

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    I've heard of them though my what I'm about to say is not really helpful.

    I cannot remember where the hell I heard of them.. for some reason Phishing comes to mind but don't quote me on that completely though.


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    go to the bb forum and search , there's a thread about that statement
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    They have to try to justify the reasons for their draconian supplement laws some way.

    Now ask them why Carnitine is illegal.
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    Oh geez, if 6-OXO was going to kill you I woulda died five years ago. I'm more concerned about the teflon on my no stick pans, the plasticizers in my plastic water bottles, cell phone radiation, the ozone layer, the world oil crisis and spontaneous human combustion....in that order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SFRANGER View Post
    Oh geez, if 6-OXO was going to kill you I woulda died five years ago. I'm more concerned about the teflon on my no stick pans, the plasticizers in my plastic water bottles, cell phone radiation, the ozone layer, the world oil crisis and spontaneous human combustion....in that order.

    the spontaneous combustion thing freaks me out.
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    I hope this is just a rumor.........
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    Geez! Do they have any evidence to support this. I'm betting there was one case of some complications with one individual who was coincidentaly taking 6 oxo while inknowingly havin a serious pre existing condition so they claim there is a cause and effect senario between the two! This is so academically lazy i'm actually going to spew!

    You know what causes bloodclots in the brain SMOKING!!!!!!
    Funny how when your making 70% tax on a product no justifiable prohibition occurs in the face of insummountable evidence demonstrating a cause and effect senario.
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    According to similar people anabolics will make your heart explode and make you murder your family
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziquor View Post
    According to similar people anabolics will make your heart explode and make you murder your family
    Damn it, dude, that was supposed to be between you and I!
    Now I have to move the bodies!

    About the original post - There needs to be some hard research behind that claim for me to even get a little concerned. And remember folks, creatine is a steroid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Damn it, dude, that was supposed to be between you and I!
    Now I have to move the bodies!

    About the original post - There needs to be some hard research behind that claim for me to even get a little concerned. And remember folks, creatine is a steroid.
    Is that why it makes me so swole?

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    Well, considering it's a country wide advisory, there is definite cause for concern I would say, but I agree, the fact the there is only one case in which one individual developed seizures and blood clots in his brain without any facts or documentation supporting the case, there are too many unknown variables to just write the product off. You never know, maybe the dude was choking down half of bottle a day or something.

    Anyway, I'm more than likely going through with the recommend dosage at 3 - 6 pills /day, this won't be for a few months yet, but I like to order my supps well in advance and research the products fully, which is what this site is all about, no?

    Thanks for the posts btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    Is that why it makes me so swole?
    Duh... Ziquor said that he needs a PCT for his CEE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Duh... Ziquor said that he needs a PCT for his CEE!

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    Whole blood clinical safety markers
    Table 2 shows the measured mean SD values for the
    whole blood clinical chemistry markers. The results demonstrated no significant group time interaction (p =
    0.829) or main effects for test (p = 0.567), indicating that
    there were no significant differences in whole blood clinical
    safety markers over the course of the study. However,
    the results did show a significant main effect for group,
    indicating that the 600 mg group had higher baselines values
    for hematocrit (p = 0.030), absolute monocytes (p =
    0.027), and absolute basophils (p = 0.018) that persisted
    throughout the study, and was apparently independent of
    6-OXO supplementation.

    Serum clinical safety markers
    Table 3 shows the measured mean SD values for the
    serum clinical chemistry markers. Results showed no significant
    group time interaction (p = 0.815) or main
    effects for test (p = 0.671) indicating that there were no
    significant differences in whole blood clinical safety markers
    over the course of the study. However, the results did
    show significant main effects for group and revealed that
    the 600 mg group was shown to have significantly higher
    baseline values for total cholesterol (p = 0.02), low density
    lipoprotein (p = 0.01), blood urea nitrogen (p =
    0.016), GGT, calcium, total blood protein, and albumin
    (p = 0.01) that persisted throughout the study, and was
    apparently independent of 6-OXO supplementation.

    Urine clinical safety markers
    Table 4 shows the measured mean SD values for the
    urine clinical chemistry markers. The results revealed no
    significant group time interaction (p = 0.794) or main
    effect for test (p = 0.543) or time (p = 0.693) indicating
    that there were no significant differences in urine clinical
    safety markers over the course of the study.

    Hemodynamic clinical safety markers
    Table 5 shows the measured mean SD values for the
    hemodynamic clinical safety markers. There was no significant
    group time interaction (p = 0.725) or main effect
    for test (p = 0.583) demonstrating no significant differences
    in hemodynamic measures over the course of the
    study. However, the results did show a significant main
    effect for group and revealed that the 300 mg group had a
    significantly higher baseline SBP (p = 0.041) that persisted
    throughout the study, and was apparently independent
    of 6-OXO supplementation.


    Effects of eight weeks of an alleged aromatase inhibiting nutritional supplement 6-OXO (androst-4-ene-3,6,17-trione) on serum hormone profiles and clinical safety markers in resistance-trained, eugonadal males

    Dan Rohle1, Colin Wilborn2, Lem Taylor3, Chris Mulligan4, Richard Kreider5
    and Darryn Willoughby


    Published: 19 October 2007
    Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition 2007, 4:13
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    Thats completely ****ed up, one guy had that happen and it was VERY likely not due to 6oxo in any part.

    Ive used 6oxo many times, and believe it to be the best AI on the market, and 6oxo extreme to be the best legal pct available.

    (as well as one of the safest, I believe it is about the only AI around that actually improves lipid profiles, don't quote me on that, but I'll try to find the study I'm thinking of... I know I knwo typically AI's are horrible on blood lipid profiles, but if I can find this study, I believe 6oxo is the exception)
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    i know of a lot of people that have used it, and none had seizures if it makes you feel any better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Duh... Ziquor said that he needs a PCT for his CEE!
  

  
 

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