PEA/Hordenine for memory and focus??

**TexasLifter89** · 08-27-2008, 01:33 PM

whats thoughts on this?

At nutra

**Big BAMA** · 08-27-2008, 01:35 PM

I have been buying bulk PEA from Nutra for some time now. I am glad you posted this. I shall purchase some now already capped.

**TexasLifter89** · 08-27-2008, 01:36 PM

do you believe it to help with memory and focus for school? im looking for something cheap and PEA seems to be a good thing

**Big BAMA** · 08-27-2008, 01:37 PM

yes, That and stay away from pot.

andrew732 · 08-27-2008, 05:27 PM

phosphatidylserine, bacopa monierra,chloine

lector606 · 08-27-2008, 06:22 PM

Adrenalean seemed to help my ability to concentrate and it contains both, so it wouldn't surprise me.

Best thing by far though IMO is just l-tyrosine. I get the bulk powder from nutraplanet.

**Gutterpump** · 08-27-2008, 06:23 PM

I like it, it works well. Worked too well in combination with other things....so be careful lol..

check out my post here:
Pea and Hordenine together, Safe, semi concerned, concerned

**Gutterpump** · 08-27-2008, 06:29 PM

Btw, taken from another board:

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeMirage

Phenylethylamine having become recently available in high doses otc in the US has resulted in many reports of potent psychoactive effects in doses ranging from 1-4 grams.

The effects seem to be a blend of thc (which by itself can increase brain levels of PEA up to 4 times) and MDMA.

Noticed positive effects:

Increased focus
body/brain high/buzz/tingle
Very talkative
Feeling waves of warmth
Strong euphoria
Reduced nervous habits or fear reduction
Altered perception (lsd/dmt like in high doses)

Noticed negative effects (especially in higher doses or when used in high doses with an MAO-B inhibitor):

Sweating
Mild nausea
Mild increase heart rate and/or blood pressure
Stronger heart beat
Mild tightness in throat

Dosing for PEA (varies on body weight and tolerance)

1,000-2,000 mg on an empty stomach.
Takes 15-30 minutes kick in.
Generally effects last an hour and people feel in a great mood the rest of the day.
When the effects start to die down an additional 250-500 mg can be taken to have the effects kick in again this can be done several times during the day.
For a more intense effect increase any of the above doses by 250-500 mg.
Start with the lower doses and increase slowly this is key to insuring less side effects and the effects you want.

The highest dose reported at once is 3-4 grams and 5+ grams during the day.

Phenibut or baclofen can be used at anytime to reduce any side effects if too strong of a dose is taken.

**TexasLifter89** · 08-27-2008, 09:27 PM

wow thats interesting. so if it acts like thc, thats not a good thing...it makes you blah doesnt it?

**Gutterpump** · 08-27-2008, 09:59 PM

Hrm, it definitely doesn't have the same effect as THC in that sense, doesn't knock you out or blunt the brain at all...I think the comparison to MDMA (when taking PEA at a HIGH dose) is more accurate, with possibly some of the same effects of THC without being sedating at all - it's more stimulating.

The 'high' only really occurs at high doses or while taking a high dose while on an mao-b inhibitor..and only really occurs for about an hour. You can feel it throughout your whole body at that dose. I figured this out on my own by taking 3 caps once (I've been taking selegaline as well - an mao-b inhibitor), felt the nice warm feeling throughout the body and gentle stimulation. About 4 hours later I took another 3 along with choline and holy crap...wasn't bad at all in any sense but wow...I wasnt' expecting that. I now read that you only need about 200-500mg after to get that same original effect.

I like a regular dose of PEA added to a nootropic stack, makes me feel good. With hordenine it's definitely stimulating.
If you don't want the high associated with the post above, don't take it with a strong mao-b inhibitor like selegaline, and don't take as high of a dose.

**ari4216** · 08-27-2008, 10:01 PM

no thc doesnt make you blah

hes talking about onlt certain compenents of the effects of tv, not the effects that make you slow. Thc only effects short term memory and doesnt permantly. i dont like PEA with hordenine, because its effects are similar to amphetamines. I dont respond well to amphetamines, the crashes are terrible. Yeah you could take phenibut or some other gaba derivative to reduce the crash, but its sucks notheless.

dsade · 08-27-2008, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gutterpump

Hrm, it definitely doesn't have the same effect as THC in that sense, doesn't knock you out or blunt the brain at all...I think the comparison to MDMA (when taking PEA at a HIGH dose) is more accurate, with possibly some of the same effects of THC without being sedating at all - it's more stimulating.

The 'high' only really occurs at high doses or while taking a high dose while on an mao-b inhibitor..and only really occurs for about an hour. You can feel it throughout your whole body at that dose.

I like a regular dose of PEA added to a nootropic stack, makes me feel good. With hordenine it's definitely stimulating.

I agree with this assessment...PEA and Hordenine in high dosages (750mg-1.5 grams) is a fantastic, clean stim.

Works great to focus and create, combines well with other Noots, and is a great thing to take before going out (lessens amount of alcohol, keeps you alert and euphoric, etc.)

**ari4216** · 08-27-2008, 10:03 PM

what the difference in feeling between high dose pea and pea/hordenine

ive only tried pea hordenine

dsade · 08-27-2008, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ari4216

what the difference in feeling between high dose pea and pea/hordenine

ive only tried pea hordenine

the Hordenine seems to (subjectively) prolong the effect dramatically, as well as amplify them.

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