Did Universal/Animal take over this board??

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by b unit View Post
    your view on the "community" you mention is through some very rose colored spectacles bro
    It's like mccain vs obama to me... neither is great but someone gets the vote.

    And with that I open a new can of worms ha.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Um find one negative review on here of a sponsored product... everyone is flipping out like every product put out is changing their lives... I believe a select few ingredients are worth the money but everything else is a waste...
    I can tell you are a BB.com-er. No offense, just alot of negativity over there.

    The only Animal thread I have seen today is this one..

    Funny how in the supplement forum people are discussing supplements. Weird.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Um if you read my words... I said the community not the site itself, the people. The people here kiss @ss on any new product without much reason or results and while some people over there do it as well most will give positive feedback on non-sponsors and negative on sponsors if need be. Here is a flavor of the month type thing with whatever is newest getting unanimous positive feedback without any reason (recreate ect...)
    They don't have non sponsors. In fact, they don't have sponsors. They have over 10x the amount of companies give out 10x the amounts of freebies. Its all relative and you can the same thing about numerous companies and products over there since 2000.

    I like the board for entertainment purposes and the weight loss forum and the NP deals but don't act like anyone here is honest on their reviews besides maybe reaperX and I can't stand him but give him some light props.

    How the hell do you know? Basically saying everyone is lying or biased is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Its just as bad as someone saying they are all telling the truth.

    Sorry for all this but personally I think 99% of supplements are BS even the ones sold by sponsors here and everyone act like some proprietary blend is going to change bodybuilding forever because it is the flavor of the month and now we can add universal to that (which is a company I actually kinda like)
    Go outside. Count to 10.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Um find one negative review on here of a sponsored product... everyone is flipping out like every product put out is changing their lives... I believe a select few ingredients are worth the money but everything else is a waste...
    i was a get deisel non responder

    Posted today.






    I'll back off... I guess we all get in our moods and right now I am down on all supplements and posting on a board where everyone is positive on them so ofcourse I'm rocking the boat...

    Eventhough I shouldn't I think I need a drink ha
    "Everyone"

    Right.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    It's like mccain vs obama to me... neither is great but someone gets the vote.

    And with that I open a new can of worms ha.
    that is a poor analogy

    i think you're digging yourself deeper into a hole with that one

    here's a couple of recent threads in the supp section

    Anabolic Pump - Horrible Stomach Problems

    Most worthless recent supplement ?
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  6. You really have no clue what you're talking about.
    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    It's like mccain vs obama to me... neither is great but someone gets the vote.

    And with that I open a new can of worms ha.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by naturalguy View Post
    I apologize on behalf of Universal if it seems we came on strong. We are learning the lay of the land here and trying to get caught up. Even though we are a large company, it seems we are not well known here.

    I am sure we will blend in better as we go along.
    Simply AMAZING!

    I have been a member here for about 5 years and this is probably one of if not the best post I have EVER seen.

    My hat is off to you Natural Guy!

    nuff said


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  8. Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER View Post
    Simply AMAZING!

    I have been a member here for about 5 years and this is probably one of if not the best post I have EVER seen.

    My hat is off to you Natural Guy!

    nuff said


    CROWLER
    You'll see in time Crowl, Eric is one of the most stand-up guys I've met (in person as well) in the entire industry. He really represents Universal well, and represents the integrity and ethics any company rep should uphold.

    These are really some great guys, and I'm sure you'll all find out in due time

  9. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    personally I think 99% of supplements are BS
    why are you in the supplement section then?

  10. Well I've been away all day and I must say that I am a bit surprised at how this thread has taken off! Wasn't trying to start too much shyt, just making a personal observation. As stated before they have been around for over 25 years, but they have failed to evolve with the industry IMO. They can change this if they want, and maybe joining this community is a first step in that direction. Thanks for all the honest opinions

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Hard Knox View Post
    Well I've been away all day and I must say that I am a bit surprised at how this thread has taken off! Wasn't trying to start too much shyt, just making a personal observation. As stated before they have been around for over 25 years, but they have failed to evolve with the industry IMO. They can change this if they want, and maybe joining this community is a first step in that direction. Thanks for all the honest opinions
    reps

  12. Quote Originally Posted by b unit View Post
    reps
    Thanks B!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    i was a get deisel non responder

    Posted today.







    "Everyone"

    Right.
    Well DTCH is about the largest load of BS put out in the last few years by a legitimate company - Even ReaperX the pimp of Get Diesel gave it a positive review while only gaining like 2 pounds, it was hilarious he went on about how he noticed no change then said it was a good product...

    Eh whatever, I'm not here to start fights but Universal going from the black sheap to a golden cow simply by changing their status on the board has gotten me going. Again i think they are a decent company and that never changed because of them becoming a sponsor.

  14. Where are the "I hated Universal until they gave me a t-shirt" threads? With any product or company you'll find both negative and positive reviews and i'm sure they're no different.

    This is a community as you have stated and when dealing with a community; your demeanor is key to a future relationship. Giving away t-shirts will go only so far in selling products and giving away supposed "bunk" products won't even get you as far as a free T. With every rule you have exceptions but taking an exception and making it a rule doesn't work.

    I have been here for a long damn time and this is a very good community to belong to and this includes our sponsors. I don't know Universal from Joe at this moment but the way they have conducted themselves so far has shown me that they probably belong with the other sponsors who spend long hours and many days coming to people's threads to help out without 'pimping' any of their products.

    My .02 cents.

  15. I don't see how anyone can hate on a company that comes in and starts handing supplements out to anyone who wants them right off the bat. My hat's off to you, gentlemen. I have not tried your products, but I am ready to give them a shot and see for myself what Universal/Animal is all about.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Well DTCH is about the largest load of BS put out in the last few years by a legitimate company - Even ReaperX the pimp of Get Diesel gave it a positive review while only gaining like 2 pounds, it was hilarious he went on about how he noticed no change then said it was a good product...

    Eh whatever, I'm not here to start fights but Universal going from the black sheap to a golden cow simply by changing their status on the board has gotten me going. Again i think they are a decent company and that never changed because of them becoming a sponsor.
    you're a wealth of contradictions

  17. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Well DTCH is about the largest load of BS put out in the last few years by a legitimate company - Even ReaperX the pimp of Get Diesel gave it a positive review while only gaining like 2 pounds, it was hilarious he went on about how he noticed no change then said it was a good product...

    Eh whatever, I'm not here to start fights but Universal going from the black sheap to a golden cow simply by changing their status on the board has gotten me going. Again i think they are a decent company and that never changed because of them becoming a sponsor.
    Ok. I hope some day you can relax (not being sarcastic)
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  18. i'll feel better when i get one of those bada$$ yellow "animal" shirts

  19. Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    Ok. I hope some day you can relax
    maybe it's the 1% of supps that aren't B.S that have him jacked up?

    over dosing on the RPM's perhaps?

    need some Reset A.D by palo to get the levels back to normal i think

  20. Quote Originally Posted by b unit View Post
    need some Reset A.D by palo to get the levels back to normal i think
    Off topic, but pregnenalone is some amazing sh*t. Reset-AD + EndoAmp has been a godsend.

    Regardless of the tone, this thread is productive in my opinion. I think maybe you've spent too much time in the Company Promotions thread which has lately drawn low count posters giving glowing 10/10 reviews like flies on fresh poop. The AM forums are full of extremely useful feedback, horror stories and success stories alike, the most unbiased I've found on the net. I've learned what to stay away from as much as what I should try to solve specific workout/recovery related problems as I encounter them.

    As far as Universal/Animal, I have actually been pleasantly surprised with their reps. The promotions were expected in my opinion, however certainly more numerous than I expected (not a bad thing, generous companies are always welcome in my book!), and they stay right where they belong, in the Company Promotions forum.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Hard Knox View Post
    As stated before they have been around for over 25 years, but they have failed to evolve with the industry IMO.
    In what ways? I have personally seen Universal add some great supplements to their company in the 1.5-2 years I've known them.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by AaronTech View Post
    In what ways? I have personally seen Universal add some great supplements to their company in the 1.5-2 years I've known them.
    he probably means in the promotional sense, as in - looking to promote and achieve a high profile like so many companies are doing these days.

    universal have been around a long time so that must say something for them as far as surviving in the cut throat world of supplements and i say welcome to A.M.

  23. Another thing to consider is the mindset of the more sophisticated supplementers here on the boards. Personally, I admit I tend to post mostly positive reviews or to help correct the path of someone's poor experience with a supplement due to misuse. BUT the reason for that is I also realize that many factors might have gone into the poor performance of the supplement including my own misuse, simple genetics and non-response, and even that the product might be crap. Because I realize they don't always work for everyone, unless I simply have a terrible time with something or have side effects I want to warn people about, I stick to posting what WORKS for me. In that way, I feel I'm adding another notch to a product I believe in and maybe steering someone away from products that didn't simply through omission.

    Maybe that's too 'glass half full' of a viewpoint, but that's how I see it.

  24. Actually B-unit mentioned 2 supps I do like, RPM and reset AD ha...



    Besides that I'm just saying its annoying to see people flip on a company instantly when they come on board or to annoint a new product simply because it is heavily promoted.

    Very few people have the guts to stand up to anyone on most boards. Point being, Patrick Arnold is a legend and a superior person in the industry but he will rip apart any supplement that doesn't have science behind it. Eventhough 99.9% of people here can't hold his jock strap he has still been run off of many posts (and for such a stuborn guy thats hard to achieve.)

    Maybe I just need to set up a rant in the general discussion about message board mentality and make it more organized...

    Either way I am glad a major company is being treated well on a board that previously ignored them

  25. I go by what I know works for me/. Pub-med is a great place for studies
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