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Hey, I just need some feedback..... what is the closest suppliment to steroids to get you ripped....i do understabd diet and training but something to help boost results.. thanks in advance
Its never good when you ask "what is the closest supplement to steroids" that shows you need to do alot more research. :gotsearchHey, I just need some feedback..... what is the closest suppliment to steroids to get you ripped....i do understabd diet and training but something to help boost results.. thanks in advance
well first the girls coulda been actin like that because of his dancing skills lol so you might want to learn how... haha jk but imo cardio would be your best bet as far as gettin ripped, thats pry why the dancer looked like he did lol as far as sups tho ive heard nothing but good things bout anabolic pump, and recreate seems to be pretty good too like said before. but i personally would stay away from stuff like hydroxycut, atro-phex, etc. that are just packed full of stims and dont seem to be all that effective
Thats not him in that pic! I know the guy and hes 5'5" 235 with 32% bf.lol jkthats me baby! haha but ya, im bout to order some ap and gonna see how it works. for me tho ive found that the best method for droppin bf is being as strict as POSSIBLE with your diet, i know during school it fn kills me but you gotta try, and you def gotta stay after the cardio and keep your intensity up in the gym. stay after it and it will come lol no questions asked
haha i had to change my avatar once already today cuz this guy said it wasnt good enough.... what a **** haha :FUfinger:Thats not him in that pic! I know the guy and hes 5'5" 235 with 32% bf.lol jk
You have to listen to me...your rep is 10.lol Right back at ya:FUfinger:haha i had to change my avatar once already today cuz this guy said it wasnt good enough.... what a **** haha :FUfinger:
It's my second time @ studio 54 observing the chicks going wild.... it"s definitely the 6-pack, cut pecs etc. I talked to them myself.well first the girls coulda been actin like that because of his dancing skills lol so you might want to learn how... haha jk but imo cardio would be your best bet as far as gettin ripped, thats pry why the dancer looked like he did lol as far as sups tho ive heard nothing but good things bout anabolic pump, and recreate seems to be pretty good too like said before. but i personally would stay away from stuff like hydroxycut, atro-phex, etc. that are just packed full of stims and dont seem to be all that effective
You may tell us your diet, workout, goals, etc...it would be helpful :thumbsup:Hey, I just need some feedback..... what is the closest suppliment to steroids to get you ripped....i do understabd diet and training but something to help boost results.. thanks in advance
exactly! if i look like this guy when im 50 i'll be wonderin why i ever even thought bout supps lolWell I am and endo and have been able to get ripped with no supplementation whatsoever. The reason I now use supps is that I don't want to have to go through the extremes I had to in the past. Supps don't make it possible, it's already doable without them, and that's for anybody who wants to pay the price. Supps may make it easier, or give you a chance to live a more normal life. Bottom line is, if you can't do it without supps, you probably can't do it with supps either.
masturbationHey, I just need some feedback..... what is the closest suppliment to steroids to get you ripped....i do understabd diet and training but something to help boost results.. thanks in advance
Not to be a partypooper but why not just develop an attractive personality? I can assure you, you don't have to be ripped or good looking to pick up like a rockstar.I just got back from Vegas and went to Studio 54. They have dancers dancing on a podium. One dancer was a guy who was thin an ripped. There was a crowd of girls gathered around his podium going nuts. I found myself wondering if I needed to change some things in my training, routine, diet etc. I have more of a mass/bodybuilders physique. Good muscle size! Yet the guys that are ripped attract the best attention. I was asking myself...how do I get that look?
Suggestions!izza:
Not to be a partypooper but why not just develop an attractive personality? I can assure you, you don't have to be ripped or good looking to pick up like a rockstar.[/QUOTE
Ever notice there are plenty of fat chicks with great personalities! I prefer chicks with hot bodies. I would argue....Being ripped is always the cat's ass!
lol - need to alternate arms otherwise only one will be as big as Popeye's!:thumbsup:masturbation
get to work!!! wait, you should already be ripped if that were the case!:FUfinger:
Thanks I really appreciate the comment. Everybody says that I am going die in the gym. It's a good way to go better than in some nursing home. I am not as crazy as some might think though, I do use my head too... sometimes now lolDreamweaver is a animal! keep up the good work bro
Yes but when money and a great personality are already take n care of,,,,,,being ripped and a six pack won't hurt.Thanks I really appreciate the comment. Everybody says that I am going die in the gym. It's a good way to go better than in some nursing home. I am not as crazy as some might think though, I do use my head too... sometimes now lol
About women, sure you can attract women with a good physiqe, and it's nice to have the ladies check you out, especially at my age.. it's a great feeling. If you think that a good body is going to land you more women you might be right but in my experience it is usually the wrong kind of woman. A really good woman will only go for what you are not what you look like. Yah money and looks will get you some woman but mostly just skanks.
I have used AP and Drive...they both did very little for me. Drive acutally did nothing! I have come to the conclusion like many on this site that supplements are alot of hype.there is no supplement like steroids. thats why its called "supplement. Its meant to simply aid growth. Check out Anabolic Pump, Neovar recomped, Drive, Igf-2, Glycergrow. PM me with a more detailed question with your goals and ill help you figure something out
Whoa!! I know there are non-responders to certain supplements but some of the supps you are stepping on are almost as effective as some to the designer steroids. Sure they are not as quick to add mass and strenght but you can take them for a longer period of time and you don't need to PCT. I have had some small experience with designers and the worked but at my age, I think it's stupid to screw with your health, and besides I was natural for 15 years and I kicked ass then and will in the future.I have used AP and Drive...they both did very little for me. Drive acutally did nothing! I have come to the conclusion like many on this site that supplements are alot of hype.
I have dosed Epistane & Dermacrine....now those worked! Steroids definitely work. Epistaine for eg. is a steroid not a supplement. I don't think it's correct to use the word supplement and steroids in the same sentence as they are 2 different things. Supplements for the most part are mainly hype and a cash grab. My educated opinion of course!
The goals of those on this thread is "getting ripped" For me it's diet...low carbs and cycling them, cardio, and H-drol and 11-oxo next due to their leaning out qualities.
Lucky
now there's a guy who has his shiit together.:thumbsup:Whoa!! I know there are non-responders to certain supplements but some of the supps you are stepping on are almost as effective as some to the designer steroids. Sure they are not as quick to add mass and strenght but you can take them for a longer period of time and you don't need to PCT. I have had some small experience with designers and the worked but at my age, I think it's stupid to screw with your health, and besides I was natural for 15 years and I kicked ass then and will in the future.
I believe - only use supplements when you need to, when your just starting out you don't need anything but protein. Designer steroids are not necessary, I believe they will be obsolete as there are better and better herbal alternatives. If you know what your doing, presently you can have more success with herbals over the long haul. I am 242 lbs and reasonably lean at 50 and I got that way by working hard, now that I am older I continue to be very successful with the same herbal products that you are condeming.
Sorry I'll get off my soap box now, I just did not like the blanket statements made in this post.
drive has offered results for people. their are such instances though where people dont respond...possibly you are one of them? AP and drive are both shown to have worked for many people, so i dont think its fair to say they dont work. Of course steroids work, but its all about the price you are willing to pay on your body that is why many people choose supplements instead. As dreamweaver stated with the right combination of herbals a person can have just as effective results.I have used AP and Drive...they both did very little for me. Drive acutally did nothing! I have come to the conclusion like many on this site that supplements are alot of hype.
I have dosed Epistane & Dermacrine....now those worked! Steroids definitely work. Epistaine for eg. is a steroid not a supplement. I don't think it's correct to use the word supplement and steroids in the same sentence as they are 2 different things. Supplements for the most part are mainly hype and a cash grab. My educated opinion of course!
The goals of those on this thread is "getting ripped" For me it's diet...low carbs and cycling them, cardio, and H-drol and 11-oxo next due to their leaning out qualities.
Lucky
Thank you, I like to think I've learned something in the last 20 years. :think:now there's a guy who has his shiit together.:thumbsup:
Sounds like you're a non-responder - doesn't mean the products don't work. I've had great success with API have used AP and Drive...they both did very little for me. Drive acutally did nothing! I have come to the conclusion like many on this site that supplements are alot of hype.
I have dosed Epistane & Dermacrine....now those worked! Steroids definitely work. Epistaine for eg. is a steroid not a supplement. I don't think it's correct to use the word supplement and steroids in the same sentence as they are 2 different things. Supplements for the most part are mainly hype and a cash grab. My educated opinion of course!
The goals of those on this thread is "getting ripped" For me it's diet...low carbs and cycling them, cardio, and H-drol and 11-oxo next due to their leaning out qualities.
Lucky
Sounds like you're a non-responder - doesn't mean the products don't work. I've had great success with AP
I have no experience with Mass Fx so I can't comment, but I have used a lot of supps that have really delivered and at this point in my life I'm pretty much immune to the placebo effect. I have been able to do things I have never been able to do before using some of the herbals like drive. Yah there is some hype but some of these supps really deliver (maybe not as well as some to the ads would have us believe but that can be passed off as a matter of perspective).Perhaps I am a non-responder, but lately there are alot of non-responders on this site expressing the same sentiments as me. Have you read the write-ups on the packaging of Mass FX. I was soo excited when I got it. Quite the hype! It also did nothing for me, not even a tingle!
I prefer the write-ups on th packaging of products like Epitstane and Dermacrine. Something like..."take 3 caps 3 times per day, for no more than 4 weeks."
Their results speak for themselves, no HYPE! I know I am not the only one that feels this way! I have spent hours on this site reading threads. Many are saying these supps are nothing but bunk. I will not change my view until I finally take a Supp that actually does what it says for me. I have not given up. Just saying the Designers deliver!
Like the boys at NP have said to me personally...there is alot of exaggeration and placebo effect on this site. EG-Boys gaining 10 lbs of LBM in 1 week etc.
Anyhow...the topic of this thread is Getting Ripped.
My conclusion from my own experience is...it's all carb/diet manipulation and cardio. Don't rely on the magic pill...there is none.
Lucky
the problem is so many companies are trying to push stacks, instead of 1 product containing everything you need, you have to buy 3 products to get advertised results. how about ap/recreate/prime all in one, it will never happen.Perhaps I am a non-responder, but lately there are alot of non-responders on this site expressing the same sentiments as me. Have you read the write-ups on the packaging of Mass FX. I was soo excited when I got it. Quite the hype! It also did nothing for me, not even a tingle!
I prefer the write-ups on th packaging of products like Epitstane and Dermacrine. Something like..."take 3 caps 3 times per day, for no more than 4 weeks."
Their results speak for themselves, no HYPE! I know I am not the only one that feels this way! I have spent hours on this site reading threads. Many are saying these supps are nothing but bunk. I will not change my view until I finally take a Supp that actually does what it says for me. I have not given up. Just saying the Designers deliver!
Like the boys at NP have said to me personally...there is alot of exaggeration and placebo effect on this site. EG-Boys gaining 10 lbs of LBM in 1 week etc.
Anyhow...the topic of this thread is Getting Ripped.
My conclusion from my own experience is...it's all carb/diet manipulation and cardio. Don't rely on the magic pill...there is none.
Lucky
Yes but with these products there are one step closer as they are comprehensive... not sure about prime but I am assuming it is. Point is now we can take fewer products, or even run them solo, as many people will be doing with prime. I am in constant recomp so what I like to do is take something that will address my anabolic needs and something that will support fat loss. If you look at Recreate is actually addresses both these adding something only may enhance that. As a consumer I should try and avoid the more is better attitude and try these supps solo. I actually have it in mind to do less stacking.the problem is so many companies are trying to push stacks, instead of 1 product containing everything you need, you have to buy 3 products to get advertised results. how about ap/recreate/prime all in one, it will never happen.
i too am in a recomp stage most of the time, problem is i have learned that taking stims increases estrogen and cortisol + restricting cals can reduce test. it would be nice to have a carb modulator/fatburner/stim/anti-cort/anti-estrogen/test booster, all in one bottle. instead you would have to individually purchase ap/recreate/prime. i know where you are coming from, i agree with you on most things. just wish a supp company would break the mode and come up with a all-in-one.Yes but with these products there are one step closer as they are comprehensive... not sure about prime but I am assuming it is. Point is now we can take fewer products, or even run them solo, as many people will be doing with prime. I am in constant recomp so what I like to do is take something that will address my anabolic needs and something that will support fat loss. If you look at Recreate is actually addresses both these adding something only may enhance that. As a consumer I should try and avoid the more is better attitude and try these supps solo. I actually have it in mind to do less stacking.
you know thats right. probably comes from the fact that we are stronger and bigger as bb's than the majority of the population and usda recommendations fall well short on our needs. i truly believe that supplements are under- dosed to make them safe for general population.Yes that would be nice, that's a lot in one product considering individually these products contain a lot of ingredients. I bet if they did though we'd still find reasons to take a bunch of other stuff.
couldn't agree more.:thumbsup:Particularly health type supplements that aren't aimed at us at all. Makes it expensive for us...
The truth can be painful and Expensive.Particularly health type supplements that aren't aimed at us at all. Makes it expensive for us...
Ok Dreamweaver: If you could recommend just one or two herbal supps that would most definitely produce some kind of results, anykind at all, perhaps one that is your favorite, perhaps one that you know works for sure....what would it be.... because I will try them. I have really given up on herbal supps and coming from my perspective I am even shocked that you find them effective. I respect your opinion...but try looking at it from my perspective. I have taken the following with ZERO effects.I have no experience with Mass Fx so I can't comment, but I have used a lot of supps that have really delivered and at this point in my life I'm pretty much immune to the placebo effect. I have been able to do things I have never been able to do before using some of the herbals like drive. Yah there is some hype but some of these supps really deliver (maybe not as well as some to the ads would have us believe but that can be passed off as a matter of perspective).
In my opinion using designers extensively at our age is ill advised. Maybe with the help of a doctor but the side effects I have encountered with my minimal use have made me think twice. Why risk it when I personally can get pretty much the same thing with the proper use of herbal products.
Oh and for a lot of these products there are not too many non-responders and I would say about 75-80% of those are just inexperienced and wouldn't know positive effects if they did get them. Just a guess but is seems to be a trend with non-repsonders they don't know how to use the supps properly or don't really know how to train and diet so they blame the supp. Not saying you are one of these but there are a lot of them.
You've tried Anabolic Pump - what about P-Slin?Ok Dreamweaver: If you could recommend just one or two herbal supps that would most definitely produce some kind of results, anykind at all, perhaps one that is your favorite, perhaps one that you know works for sure....what would it be.... because I will try them. I have really given up on herbal supps and coming from my perspective I am even shocked that you find them effective. I respect your opinion...but try looking at it from my perspective. I have taken the following with ZERO effects.
Lean Xtreme
Mass FX
Drive
Anabolic Pump gave me the massive dumps-common
Powerfull-excellent for deep sleep, now they say I have to use for 3-6 months so I do intend to re-order
Yohimbine
I am not naive about diet & training. I have taken myself from a slim 175 lb martial artist to 197 lb muscular weight trainer. Just frustrated with the herbals. Love Epistane & Dermacrine though. No sides!
Well you didn't respond to one of my favourites drive. I had an immediate response good clean energy then I achieved really nice muscle hardness.Ok Dreamweaver: If you could recommend just one or two herbal supps that would most definitely produce some kind of results, anykind at all, perhaps one that is your favorite, perhaps one that you know works for sure....what would it be.... because I will try them. I have really given up on herbal supps and coming from my perspective I am even shocked that you find them effective. I respect your opinion...but try looking at it from my perspective. I have taken the following with ZERO effects.
Lean Xtreme
Mass FX
Drive
Anabolic Pump gave me the massive dumps-common
Powerfull-excellent for deep sleep, now they say I have to use for 3-6 months so I do intend to re-order
Yohimbine
I am not naive about diet & training. I have taken myself from a slim 175 lb martial artist to 197 lb muscular weight trainer. Just frustrated with the herbals. Love Epistane & Dermacrine though. No sides! Surprised a guy your age has not used Dermacrine....great reviews especially after 40 crowd. Boost your test, amazing energy and well being boost, plus makes you smarter...yes I said smarter from the pregnolone (sp?)
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