Divanex, HOW important if at all is an AI
- 07-27-2008, 02:58 AM
Divanex, HOW important if at all is an AI
I try to keep things simple, I got a few bottles of Divanex because I can only assume it will sell out quickly.
I did not order an AI, so I am looking for opinions on if I am really missing out, or not getting my moneys worth without an AI.
I am not looking at an AI to enhance the Divanex as much as simply control any side effects, so if an AI was used I assume a noon steroidal would be recommended.
I really dont want to spend the extra cash but if the synergy is just dumb of me not to utilize, I would definitely splurge.
Anyways you can see the train of thought I am on so all input would be appreciated!
- 07-27-2008, 03:04 AM
divinex is not a ph/ps/aas. you dont need a ai for it. it is a extract that stops the binding of shgb to test creating more free test.
07-27-2008, 05:06 AM
07-27-2008, 09:22 AM
well, what divanex will do is decrease SHBG - sex hormone binding globulin. effectively SHBG reduced the amount of your total hormones that are actually available for your body to use. So if your total testosterone level is 700, that is meaningless without knowing the SHBG. someone with a 500 on testosterone but lower SHBG could have more bioavailable test....
anyhow, so the idea of the AI with it is 2fold. One is that with increased test you get increased aromatisation, so an ai will help avoid you having more estrogen in bloodstream. the other is that it could possibly spike your total test even higher, if your body sees the low estrogen level and raises the test production to try and help
So will you maybe get more results with light AI dosing? possibly. necessary to see results? no, not at all
07-27-2008, 11:48 AM
Personally I have to be careful with AIs..they tend to trigger Telogen Effluvium if I stay on too long.
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07-27-2008, 02:35 PM
Telegen Effluvium. T.E. is more of a "shock fallout" due to a number of factors. Extreme dieting, stress, or hormonal fluctuations (brought on by steroids or even A.Is) can trigger it. DHT may not be a factor at all.
all that to say that not being susceptible to MPB is a big help but doesn't guarantee no hairloss issues. Men in my family only have slightly receding hairlines into the 70s-80s but TE hits me hard and fast.
07-27-2008, 04:35 PM
07-27-2008, 06:40 PM
Now all I have to figure out the best dosage of Divanex for myself at about 200lbs....if anyone else is planning anything I would like to hear different dosing protocols, rather than me starting a new thread.
I plan on starting at 4 caps a day and starting the atd 10-14 days before the Divanex, and stopping the ATD about 10-14 days before I finish up the Divanex...
Whats the max time frames one should run Divanex anyways... I am starting with the idea of 6 weeks
So something like
Week 1 25 mg ATD
Week 2 25 mg ATD
Week 3 25 mg ATD/4 caps Divanex/LX 2.0
Week 4 25 mg ATD/4 caps Divanex/LX 2.0
Week 5 25 mg ATD/4 caps Divanex/LX 2.0
Week 6 25 mg ATD/4 caps Divanex/LX 2.0
Week 7 4 caps Divanex
Week 8 4 caps Divanex
Recomp much... opinions welcomed...
I also may add some REDuction.... I just got it cause it was so cheap, but I may also just give it to my woman...
07-27-2008, 06:51 PM
i'd stagger them the reverse way. the divanex will take time to begin making effect, atd is nearly immediate
07-27-2008, 08:01 PM
Perhaps if ATD is more or less instant I could just start taking them at the same time and not pre-load the ATD, I just remember that being recommended somewhere, in theory at least.
07-27-2008, 08:11 PM
Yeah, I could see starting them together, and then perhaps running the atd past the end of the divanex, just because when you stop the divanex test levels will likely remain high for a little while
07-27-2008, 08:14 PM
No its not needed.
remember ai's and atd's are going to be banned by natural organizations dec 31st 2008
6-oxo is a natural compound
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