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    So if i take vit d i will get fat?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    So if i take vit d i will get fat?!?!
    And lose LBM too? I don't know
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    So if i take vit d i will get fat?!?!
    Doubtful.

    Adel has a personal beef with vitamin D and it is justifiably so considering how OVER recommended it is AND at extreme amounts.
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    Interesting read either way...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Doubtful.

    Adel has a personal beef with vitamin D and it is justifiably so considering how OVER recommended it is AND at extreme amounts.
    Who is Adel? Author of suppversity? TBH I'd never even seen the website until I googled the name of the study in hopes of finding the FT
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Who is Adel? Author of suppversity? TBH I'd never even seen the website until I googled the name of the study in hopes of finding the FT
    Yes, I know him from another forum we are members of. Browse his blog some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Doubtful.

    Adel has a personal beef with vitamin D and it is justifiably so considering how OVER recommended it is AND at extreme amounts.
    What would you say is extreme amounts?
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    Well its a safe bet that many here supplement vitamin D. Are you all getting fatter and losing lbm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by broons View Post
    Well its a safe bet that many here supplement vitamin D. Are you all getting fatter and losing lbm?
    Realistically, there's no way you'd be able to tell
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Realistically, there's no way you'd be able to tell
    Yeah I know I was mostly jesting lol
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    Just starting supplementing with it on Monday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Know the author from another forum as well that I used to be highly active on. While I don't agree with everything, I always learn some things by reading his work.
    What's the forum/username?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    What's the forum/username?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Know the author from another forum as well that I used to be highly active on. While I don't agree with everything, I always learn some things by reading his work.
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    I'm not sure if it's just in head or not but since I started taking Vit d3 just this past Monday was my first dosage, my hunger seems to have gone up and I have much more energy. Usually I start to feel sleepy around 2 pm everyday and a lot of times I take a nap, but this week I haven't felt sleepy at all and hunger seems to be creeping up slowly. Could be just placebo though I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I'm not sure if it's just in head or not but since I started taking Vit d3 just this past Monday was my first dosage, my hunger seems to have gone up and I have much more energy. Usually I start to feel sleepy around 2 pm everyday and a lot of times I take a nap, but this week I haven't felt sleepy at all and hunger seems to be creeping up slowly. Could be just placebo though I guess.
    out of curiosity, how much actual sunlight are you getting this time of year?

    i know for myself, i dont really supplement D3 in the summer, since im usually in the sun a decent ammount.....but once fall/winter rolls around i hop back on it
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus View Post
    out of curiosity, how much actual sunlight are you getting this time of year?

    i know for myself, i dont really supplement D3 in the summer, since im usually in the sun a decent ammount.....but once fall/winter rolls around i hop back on it

    I go for hour long walks three times a week but that is about it as far as sun. Well unless you count walking to and from the car while shopping or doing errands.
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    Never supplemented with it before, was quite apprehensive about it actually till I talked with mr.cooper.
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    If I had to guess I would say this is just placebo at this point. Maybe if after another week or two I feel the same then it could be the d3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I go for hour long walks three times a week but that is about it as far as sun. Well unless you count walking to and from the car while shopping or doing errands.
    well coop/josh correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure 10-15 minutes out in the sun and you'll be all set
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    If D3 increases testosterone no wonder your appetite would be increased as well, I have been using it for almost 3 years now only positive things to report so far
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    I'm another one who tends to supplement with D more in the winter than summer for obvious reasons. I do think it has an impact on my seasonal affective disorder, but that could literally all be in my head
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I go for hour long walks three times a week but that is about it as far as sun. Well unless you count walking to and from the car while shopping or doing errands.
    From my understanding it doesn't take much exposure at all to produce vitamin D, something like 15 minutes for a few thousand IU's, I highly doubt you'll have any problem with that exposure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus View Post
    well coop/josh correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure 10-15 minutes out in the sun and you'll be all set
    It's 20-30 mins iirc.

    I'd only supplement in the fall/winter seasons.

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    I been on HRT therapy since July, everything was okay, but then I started sliding off...less sperm, less erections and less thoughts about sex. I couldn't figure it out...till these past 2 weeks. I had stopped taking vit D and never really cared or thought about, I thought it was just one of those supplements that couldn't hurt. Without thinking about it, I started taking it again (the top of my refrigerator is like a *** store shelf) and all of a sudden, morning wood is back...started thinking about sex again...and blowing loads again. I couldn't figure it out, went over all my daily supplements...checked my test bottle, just about everything and then I realized that the only thing different was adding vit D. Vitamin D for me rocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dondon View Post
    I been on HRT therapy since July, everything was okay, but then I started sliding off...less sperm, less erections and less thoughts about sex. I couldn't figure it out...till these past 2 weeks. I had stopped taking vit D and never really cared or thought about, I thought it was just one of those supplements that couldn't hurt. Without thinking about it, I started taking it again (the top of my refrigerator is like a *** store shelf) and all of a sudden, morning wood is back...started thinking about sex again...and blowing loads again. I couldn't figure it out, went over all my daily supplements...checked my test bottle, just about everything and then I realized that the only thing different was adding vit D. Vitamin D for me rocks.
    What you are experiencing is called placebo. A vitamin D deficiency will take months to years to manifest, and about the same amount of time to be reversed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    What you are experiencing is called placebo. A vitamin D deficiency will take months to years to manifest, and about the same amount of time to be reversed.
    Placebo?? re-read what I wrote, I couldn't figure out what it was, I had to go over what it was that I did differently. If I knew what it was then I can vouch for a placebo. I took it without any expectations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dondon View Post
    Placebo?? re-read what I wrote, I couldn't figure out what it was, I had to go over what it was that I did differently. If I knew what it was then I can vouch for a placebo. I took it without any expectations.
    You don't need concious expectations for placebo to be at play.
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    Placebo or not, if its improved your quality of life then that's good for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    You don't need concious expectations for placebo to be at play.
    Okay, that may be right, but you just can't turn testosterone on and off, not like I witnessed. I been in this game a long time, I've had many supplements that worked and had some (actually most) that didn't work, so I do know what I'm experiencing is not placebo, its been consistent everyday.

    Quote Originally Posted by broons View Post
    Placebo or not, if its improved your quality of life then that's good for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelbolic View Post
    Vitamin D supplementation doesn't prevent or reduces symptoms and duration of the common cold when 25(OH)D levels are sufficient:
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    The answer to that question is yes apparently
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    A deeper look into the paper of the OP is quite interesting. The Vit D group consumed more calories overall, and vit D seemed to stimulate appetite as the change in caloric consumption after 12 weeks was much higher in the vit D group.

    The vit D group had an obvious decline in PTH levels, showing that supplemental calcium and Vit D are sufficient for raising blood calcium levels (if you didn't already know this). Statistical significance isn't the be all, end all.

    BUUUUUUUT, here's a figure that ergolog conveniently left out in their latest article:



    So absolute fat mass trended towards an increase over placebo in the vit D group, yet the waist-to-hip ratio decreased. So ergolog's extrapolations are actually quite false. It would appear that vit D alters fat distribution and negatively affects overall body comp, as suppversity concluded.
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    Should I stop taking my vitamin D?

    confuzzled...will stop for now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla99 View Post
    Should I stop taking my vitamin D?

    confuzzled...will stop for now
    Yeah just for now or until there are more positive studies posted about it....Tomorrow or next week it will be recommended again. LMAO. Every-time the win blows a different direction. I'm sure if you search hard enough you can find as positive and negative studies on anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla99 View Post
    Should I stop taking my vitamin D?

    confuzzled...will stop for now
    No

    the lessen here is more is not always better. If you are vit D deficient then supplementation may be beneficial for you but if you are not AND are mega dosing vitD (which seems to be a popular trend) then it may NOT be as beneficial for you as one might think.

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    Yeah just for now or until there are more positive studies posted about it....Tomorrow or next week it will be recommended again. LMAO. Every-time the win blows a different direction. I'm sure if you search hard enough you can find as positive and negative studies on anything.
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    coop, there's something I'd like to point out about that graph which you may have momentarily forgotten. In statistics, if you have error bars like that that intersect each other at any point between different bars/data points, it means there's no statistical significance. So what one is supposed to get out of that graph is that there is no significant change in either lean mass or fat mass during the experiment.
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