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L-Carnitine-L-Tartrate

  1.  01-31-2013  10:22 PM
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    Quoting this from a smart individual from another site:

    There's no reason to believe tartrate is ergogenic. It's addition to carnitine does improve carnitine uptake though. Increasing muscle carnitine via LCLT improves the rate of FA transport into the mitochondrial matrix, thus leading to more rapid ATP formation via b-oxidation and less purinergic degradation via hypoxanthine dumping, which occurs in response to high cellular AMP. This is how LCLT is:

    1. Ergogenic
    2. Cell-protective (xanthine oxidase creates ROS in detoxifying xanthine to uric acid...to make matters worse, it also acts on hypoxanthine -> xanthine, so you get a double whammy for each molecule of hypoxanthine)
    3. Able to improve the VO2 max (hypoxia is also a trigger for hypoxanthine dumping)



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    Originally Posted by domore View Post
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    Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
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    Re: L-Carnitine-L-Tartrate


    Originally Posted by domore View Post
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    That guy the quote is from isn't smart. He is jut a know it all Med student

    Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
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    Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    That guy the quote is from isn't smart. He is jut a know it all Med student



    Oh hai :/


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    So in the anecdotal realms, what sorts of effects are people noticing? This is one form I haven't tried yet.

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    Originally Posted by bioman
    So in the anecdotal realms, what sorts of effects are people noticing? This is one form I haven't tried yet.
    It is honestly really hard to quantify as I don't notice really much physically. Being that it has all of those positive studies and is dirt cheap is how I justify cost. Maybe it is just me but I feel you would have to really be in tune with testing it on yourself for different periods of time to gauge without any type of lab testing on tissues, response to androgens in the body before and after use, etc.

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    I love LCLT, I feel it boosts recovery when I take 4g a day. I if I take 3g with my pre-workout I find it helps for overall performance as well.
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