Steveo is lighting up with JP8 (And recomping with Recreate)

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    could be mag, if u get over 400mg at a time, but its probably the phosphates and bicarbonates combined , and what u eat after u take the JP8. JP8 has alot of ach boosters, so most people wont get "cracked out " energy from it because Ach decreases the "amped" up effect of adrenaline, but Ach increases is where ur coordination, strength and mind muscle connection come from.

    Arent u the one eating oats or something pre-workout right after JP8?


    How soon do u take JP8 pre-workout? How soon before or after taking JP8 do u eat the oats or whatever it is?
    I generally eat oat bran (a watery oatmeal/porridge, digests quicker I find), then JP8 45 minutes after, then hit the gym 45 minutes after. I was doing that with 1.5 scoops, but it wasn't hitting me hard enough. I did it once with 2 scoops back at the beginning and it felt too much, but now I think 2 scoops is the right amount.

    Yesterday I tried JP8 upon waking, then a shake 15 mins later, then gym 30 mins later. Didn't get too much energy, although endurance was pretty good.

    Also I only started the Swell 3 days ago, JP8 wasn't agreeing with my stomach before. I'll try the Swell empty-stomach, then my oat bran, then JP8 45 mins later and 2 scoops, then the gym 45 mins later and see how that goes. Also no calcium carbonate, but it does have Calcium Pantothenate and Mg Carb, etc. which might interfere w/ JP8. The stomach discomfort was pretty quick when I mixed JP8 & Swell on an empty stomach, so perhaps I should separate them.

    I thought I could get by with 1.5 scoops since I'm a lighter build and pretty sensitive to stims and I don't like taking >200mg at once (2 scoops of JP8 is 240mg), I find it messes with my sleep. However with ZMA, GABA and the occasional melatonin I haven't noticed any sleep problems yet. I've also avoided taking JP8 more than 5 times a week. Usually 2 on then 1 off (my cardio day).
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    Translation.....getting out of boring ass central Florida.
    Funniest post i've read all week.

    Sorry about your stomach problems Steve. You should try to run each supplement individually to figure out the culprit. Seems like you threw a couple new supplements into the mix, and that's when problems began.

  3. Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    I generally eat oat bran (a watery oatmeal/porridge, digests quicker I find), then JP8 45 minutes after, then hit the gym 45 minutes after. I was doing that with 1.5 scoops, but it wasn't hitting me hard enough. I did it once with 2 scoops back at the beginning and it felt too much, but now I think 2 scoops is the right amount.

    Yesterday I tried JP8 upon waking, then a shake 15 mins later, then gym 30 mins later. Didn't get too much energy, although endurance was pretty good.

    Also I only started the Swell 3 days ago, JP8 wasn't agreeing with my stomach before. I'll try the Swell empty-stomach, then my oat bran, then JP8 45 mins later and 2 scoops, then the gym 45 mins later and see how that goes. Also no calcium carbonate, but it does have Calcium Pantothenate and Mg Carb, etc. which might interfere w/ JP8. The stomach discomfort was pretty quick when I mixed JP8 & Swell on an empty stomach, so perhaps I should separate them.

    I thought I could get by with 1.5 scoops since I'm a lighter build and pretty sensitive to stims and I don't like taking >200mg at once (2 scoops of JP8 is 240mg), I find it messes with my sleep. However with ZMA, GABA and the occasional melatonin I haven't noticed any sleep problems yet. I've also avoided taking JP8 more than 5 times a week. Usually 2 on then 1 off (my cardio day).

    umm yeah all that is confusing, I eat at 12 take JP8 at 1pm workout at 2:30, but thats me. IF it was AM, I guess I would eat at 7am, JP8 at 7:45 then workout at 9.

  4. <---- Stupid. I just got out my digital scale and weighed the scooper and realized it was supposed to be a level scoops and not just to the fill line on the side of the scooper Should have done that first. Anyways, now I've taken a full 1.5 scoops and will hit the gym and see how it goes.

    Recap:I was underdosing. My mistake, now let's see some good workouts!

    Quote Originally Posted by ecu19 View Post
    Funniest post i've read all week.

    Sorry about your stomach problems Steve. You should try to run each supplement individually to figure out the culprit. Seems like you threw a couple new supplements into the mix, and that's when problems began.
    Well I started recreate a few days before JP8 and had no problems. Then I started JP8 and my stomach started getting queasy after I took it. I added swell about a week after and still the same stomach problems, so I know it's the JP8 that doesn't agree with me, but I think my body is getting used to it because I just took 1.5 scoops and doing OK.
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  5. looking forward to your update
    SFW and GFH

  6. Workout: Chest & Best
    1a) Incline DB 10,10,10,9,8,7,8,7,8,9
    1b) Rows 10,10,10,10,10,9,10,10,10,10
    2a) Chest Flys 3x10
    2b) Pulldowns 3x10
    3) Dips - 3 To Failure

    Comments: Wow! Today's workout was amazing. No comparison to my half- @### workouts from the past 2 weeks. I had so much energy I did three EXTRA sets of dips to failure at the end, and could have easily kept on going! This was with only 1.5 scoops JP8 . The endurance was awesome, I would be exhausted and put down the weights. Then pick them up again and get 2 sets out of nowhere. I got some major chest pumps too. Loved it!

    Damn that was a good workout. Looking forward to legs tomorrow, and seeing how sore my upper body will be from todays workout!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Workout: Chest & Best
    1a) Incline DB 10,10,10,9,8,7,8,7,8,9
    1b) Rows 10,10,10,10,10,9,10,10,10,10
    2a) Chest Flys 3x10
    2b) Pulldowns 3x10
    3) Dips - 3 To Failure

    Comments: Wow! Today's workout was amazing. No comparison to my half- @### workouts from the past 2 weeks. I had so much energy I did three EXTRA sets of dips to failure at the end, and could have easily kept on going! This was with only 1.5 scoops JP8 . The endurance was awesome, I would be exhausted and put down the weights. Then pick them up again and get 2 sets out of nowhere. I got some major chest pumps too. Loved it!

    Damn that was a good workout. Looking forward to legs tomorrow, and seeing how sore my upper body will be from todays workout!
    you do anything different with your dosing?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    you do anything different with your dosing?
    Sounds like he kept the timing the same, and realized the actual dosage portion was adjusted..

  9. Great log so far.
    \\ USPlabs Alpha Ginger //

  10. Workout: Legs
    1a)Leg Press: 10,10,10,10,10,8,10,10,10,10
    1b) Abs (Various)
    2a) Stiff-Leg Deads 3x8 (Slow for tension)
    2b) Calf Press

    Comments:
    Dosage: 1.5 scoops JP8. Timing: Oats --> 45 Mins JP8 --> 45 mins Workout.
    Today I didn't feel like I could go forever like I did yesterday, but I think it was because I pushed myself so hard on the leg press. I was amazed at my endurance, only missed 2 reps on the 6th set. I was pushing so hard I broke a good swear just from the leg presses! Today I didn't feel as energetic/refreshed at 1 hour into my workout, but was still great nonetheless!

    And yea, Chuck nothing changed except I realized I needed a level scoop, not to the line Also a sign of hard workouts is that it gets my metabolism going and I can't stop eating. Been eating tons yesterday and today which is a good sign.

    Also tomorrow I'm going in for some dental surgery. I'm not sure how long he will say I can't hit the gym for, but if he says no gym for a week I might not work out for 2 or 3 days

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post

    Also tomorrow I'm going in for some dental surgery. I'm not sure how long he will say I can't hit the gym for, but if he says no gym for a week I might not work out for 2 or 3 days
    ok, well hope stuff goes fine. I remember back in like 99 I had some jaw surgery/dental work (they put bone marrow in my gum line) anyway the AC broke in the hospital while I was under and it was Aug. in abuqureque(sp) NM, I woke up sweating and I could feel them stitching me up. I was like "umm its like 120 degrees and I can feel that and it hurts" and they was like, "oh well were almost done so we wont sedate u again."

    anyway good luck.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    ok, well hope stuff goes fine. I remember back in like 99 I had some jaw surgery/dental work (they put bone marrow in my gum line) anyway the AC broke in the hospital while I was under and it was Aug. in abuqureque(sp) NM, I woke up sweating and I could feel them stitching me up. I was like "umm its like 120 degrees and I can feel that and it hurts" and they was like, "oh well were almost done so we wont sedate u again."

    anyway good luck.
    Thats FUKCED up man!!!
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2

  13. Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Thats FUKCED up man!!!
    The worst are those cases where people wake up when they're supposed to be under general anesthetic but they are awake and can't talk or move!!! That sucks.

    Anyways surgery went well, but I'm not supposed to hit the gym for a week! I'm going to give it 4 days and see how it feels, and add do some lighter weights/more reps next week. Ice on and off for 5 minutes is really tedious lol. Atleast I've got a stash of Tylenol 3's to keep me sedated and happy Can't feel a damn thing.

    Probably going to be back in the gym Monday the earliest. It's going to be a glorious 4 days since I'm not allowed solid foods I'm living off UP 2.0 Chocolate Peanut Butter!!! This stuck is addicting! Let's see if 4 lbs will last 4 days.

  14. good luck with that!! That stuff is great!

    I hate when they tell you to let them know when it hurts then they clamp your mouth open so you can't talk except for some interesting noises.
    And then the sound of drill is louder than your noises. I punched my dentist in the shoulder once because he wasn't listening to my noises!!
    SFW and GFH

  15. Wish you fast recovery, Steveoph!

  16. Alright so after 5 days of rest, I'm returning to the gym. I'm not supposed to train for atleast a week, so I might not take the JP8 tomorrow; I know it will make me want to push myself hard and with the still healing wounds in my mouth, too much pressure can easily cause the stitches and scabs to rupture.

    Tomorrow I'll post up my cheesecake that I made while out of commission (and downed in 2 days lol, almost ate it before I found my camera!). Also running low on the recreate, it's had a rough last few days but I kept the carbs and cals low so hopefully not too much damage.

  17. Alright, here's a few pictures. I'll take another one of my daily omelette and oat-bran/porridge today, right now I've got my cheesecake (it looked alot more impressive with the whole thing in the cake pan... but I ate it too fast lol). I've also included a picture of what the JP8 container should look like, so you don't think you got shortchanged when you open your container.



  18. Crustless Pumpkin Cheesecake

    Ingredients:
    3x250g Light Cream Cheese (Softened)
    500mL (15 oz.) Canned Pumpkin
    3 Eggs (Separated)
    1 c. Sugar (I used Splenda)
    1 Tsp Vanilla Extract
    1 Tsp Cinnamon
    1/2 Tsp Ginger, Nutmeg, Cloves and Allspice
    1 Tbsp Corn Starch
    Salt to taste

    Instructions:
    Mix egg yolks in a beater until thick (~5 minutes), add in softened cream cheese, then all ingredients except whites. In a separate bowl, beat egg whites to a tip, then fold in.

    Pour into a spray 10" springboard pan. Bake at 350 for ~60 minutes (Until top darkens), then turn off over and open slightly and allow to cool. Top with whipped cream and ENJOY!

    Mine of course cracked because I'm no Martha Stewart, and my cream cheese was kind of old, but it tasted awesome! Next time to make it "lighter" I'll try only 2 blocks of cream cheese, and may an extra egg white or two.


  19. sweet np shirt!
    How's the mouth?
    SFW and GFH

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Inarius View Post
    sweet np shirt!
    How's the mouth?
    The black shirt is awesome
    Still stitched up, but I'm not popping Tylenol 3's every few hours Still can't talk properly, but should be fixed once the stitches are out I'm going to try and hit some weights in an hour, but if I do my HIIT the surgeon will probably be pretty ticked off when I go on Thursday for Post-Op. Thanks for asking.

    Looking forward to a big Leg day tomorrow with JP8!

    Anyways I'm off to the gym. I took Vassive-NO by ON 30 mins ago, and it's not kicking in much but I think this is all I'm going to get lol.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Anyways I'm off to the gym. I took Vassive-NO by ON 30 mins ago, and it's not kicking in much but I think this is all I'm going to get lol.
    Yeah I tried a sample of it b4, wasn't impressed

  22. Mini Vassive-NO Review

    Taste: 10/10 - This reminded me of some drink I used to have a kid that was amazing.
    Mixability: 10/10 - Like a charm
    Energy: 6/10 - Had a bit of a buzz, but that was from the 125mg Caffeine + 75mg from Recreate
    Strength/Pumps: 3/10 - Had some vascularity , but I get that anyways having a low bf % and just getting the blood flowing. Not much of a noticeable effect vs. working out plain.

    This made me look forward alot more to JP8 tomorrow, although I have to be careful not to push myself too hard! Also I ate my daily omelet and forgot to take a picture, so that's waiting until tomorrow.

    Also my daily oat-bran concoction! Note, the blueberries are freaking massive, but that's ~900 mL of water and 1c. of oatbran and berries + 1 scoop berry whey isolate.



  23. hooray for blueberry season!

  24. don quixote ftw!
    SFW and GFH
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