Steveo is lighting up with JP8 (And recomping with Recreate)
- 08-09-2008, 12:03 PM
Leg press (5x8)
2a) Stiff-Leg Deads
2b) Calf Presses
JP8 kicked in today, but unfortunately it kicked in while I was doing my cool-down cardio. Had me so wired I wasn't listening to my iPod and was just whistling to myself on the elliptical lol. Only 1.5 scoops but it had me wired like crazy. My workout was pretty average though, it kicked in later today than normal.
60 mins elliptical, non-fasted. 1200 cals, 7.85 miles
I really think JP8 needs to be taken on an empty stomach to kick in proper. Tomorrow is shoulders. I'm going to wake up, take JP8 and Swell, then take a shake 15 mins later, then hit the gym in 15 minutes. Will do 1.5 scoops, and see how much harder it hits me. Should be a pretty good ride, will let you guys know tomorrow afternoon how it went.
- 08-09-2008, 01:43 PM
- 08-09-2008, 06:39 PM
08-09-2008, 07:10 PM
08-09-2008, 09:35 PM
08-11-2008, 01:15 AM
ill look it over tomo...!!!!!!!!!
\\ USPlabs Alpha Ginger //
08-11-2008, 07:43 AM
1a) Dips 10x10
1b) Incl. Bicep Curls 8x10
1c) Shrugs 8x8
2a) Shoulder Press 4x10
2b) DB Oblique Side Bends 4x10
Took JP8 upon waking, had a shake 20 minutes later. Hit the gym 45 minutes after JP8. I took 1.5 scoops, however at the gym I was not as pumped/stimmed as I was expecting, especially since I took JP8 empty stomach. I think I need 2 scoops, not sure why that Chest workout last week with 2 scoops hit me so hard. It's not like it kicked in late either during my HIIT sprints, it just didn't hit me. I'll do 2 scoops, ~40 mins before my chest workout on Tues.
The dips did go well all the way to my last set, so perhaps JP8 helped with endurance but I didn't feel "energized". Perhaps it works better if taken with some Ether pre-WO?
The stomach discomfort was pretty strong on an empty stomach yesterday; right when I chugged the JP8 my stomach started feeling queasy. My shake also didn't help matters, and at some points during my workout I recall feeling a bit unwell. Chuck do you notice ppl with stomach problems from R4W? It's odd because I can usually stomach anything.
08-11-2008, 07:56 AM
08-11-2008, 03:23 PM
60 Mins Elliptical. 7.74 Miles, 1182 Cals
No JP8 today, just 2 Recreate and Swell Pre-WO. I had done HIIT sessions for the past couple months, but I forgot how important some long cardio is to burning off calories! After my last 60 minute cardio session I could actually see the difference the next day; 1200 cals is a good bit of calories!
The Swell still hasn't given me a niacin flush like Dialene did, but perhaps I've gotten adjusted to the Niacin pretty quickly. It's effects are subtle, but so far it hasn't been so dramatic that I've noticed anything. The claims that I am trying to assess are:
" * Increased Hydration
* Higher Working Capacity
* Reduced Fatigue
* Increased Oxygen Delivery to Muscles
* Promote Protein Synthesis
* Increased Muscle Recovery
* Increased Aerobic and Anaerobic Energy Production
* Intense Muscle Pumps
* Suppressed Protein Catabolism
* Increased Mental Acuity"
It's kind of hard to have mental acuity after 60 minutes of pretty damn tiring cardio though lol. The higher working capacity/decreased fatigue might be noticeable in my HIIT sprints, but it has been hard to say thus far.
Chuck I'm trying to figure out what exactly in the JP8 doesn't agree with me, and if it just takes time for my stomach to get used to it (Since I bought 2 tubs of JP8, so 40 workouts!). I guess it might be those K/Na Phosphates/Bicarbonates. The thing that doesn't makes me doubt it is that the Swell has Bicarbs too (Magnesium Carbonate, Potassium Bicarbonate, Potassium Carbonate, Potassium Chloride, Pyridoxine HCL, Sodium Bicarbonate) Your ETHER has those too, meanwhile the R4W has the Mg Creatine that I've heard some people have issues with (although I haven't in the past with CL's Green Magnitude).
Tomorrow is chest day, going to do 2 scoops and see how it goes. The other logs are absolutely blown away by JP8 but here I am with a queasy stomach and just OK workouts Crikey that was a long update!
08-11-2008, 05:09 PM
could be mag, if u get over 400mg at a time, but its probably the phosphates and bicarbonates combined , and what u eat after u take the JP8. JP8 has alot of ach boosters, so most people wont get "cracked out " energy from it because Ach decreases the "amped" up effect of adrenaline, but Ach increases is where ur coordination, strength and mind muscle connection come from.
Arent u the one eating oats or something pre-workout right after JP8?
How soon do u take JP8 pre-workout? How soon before or after taking JP8 do u eat the oats or whatever it is?
08-11-2008, 05:10 PM
u take swell pre-workout? I wouldnt do that with JP8, if it has cal. carbonate. Thats like mixing tums in JP8.
08-11-2008, 06:20 PM
Yesterday I tried JP8 upon waking, then a shake 15 mins later, then gym 30 mins later. Didn't get too much energy, although endurance was pretty good.
Also I only started the Swell 3 days ago, JP8 wasn't agreeing with my stomach before. I'll try the Swell empty-stomach, then my oat bran, then JP8 45 mins later and 2 scoops, then the gym 45 mins later and see how that goes. Also no calcium carbonate, but it does have Calcium Pantothenate and Mg Carb, etc. which might interfere w/ JP8. The stomach discomfort was pretty quick when I mixed JP8 & Swell on an empty stomach, so perhaps I should separate them.
I thought I could get by with 1.5 scoops since I'm a lighter build and pretty sensitive to stims and I don't like taking >200mg at once (2 scoops of JP8 is 240mg), I find it messes with my sleep. However with ZMA, GABA and the occasional melatonin I haven't noticed any sleep problems yet. I've also avoided taking JP8 more than 5 times a week. Usually 2 on then 1 off (my cardio day).
08-11-2008, 07:26 PM
08-11-2008, 08:31 PM
08-12-2008, 07:55 AM
<---- Stupid. I just got out my digital scale and weighed the scooper and realized it was supposed to be a level scoops and not just to the fill line on the side of the scooper Should have done that first. Anyways, now I've taken a full 1.5 scoops and will hit the gym and see how it goes.
Recap:I was underdosing. My mistake, now let's see some good workouts!
08-12-2008, 07:58 AM
looking forward to your update
SFW and GFH
08-12-2008, 04:51 PM
Workout: Chest & Best
1a) Incline DB 10,10,10,9,8,7,8,7,8,9
1b) Rows 10,10,10,10,10,9,10,10,10,10
2a) Chest Flys 3x10
2b) Pulldowns 3x10
3) Dips - 3 To Failure
Comments: Wow! Today's workout was amazing. No comparison to my half- @### workouts from the past 2 weeks. I had so much energy I did three EXTRA sets of dips to failure at the end, and could have easily kept on going! This was with only 1.5 scoops JP8 . The endurance was awesome, I would be exhausted and put down the weights. Then pick them up again and get 2 sets out of nowhere. I got some major chest pumps too. Loved it!
Damn that was a good workout. Looking forward to legs tomorrow, and seeing how sore my upper body will be from todays workout!
08-13-2008, 07:58 AM
08-13-2008, 02:31 PM
08-13-2008, 02:47 PM
Great log so far.
\\ USPlabs Alpha Ginger //
08-13-2008, 03:30 PM
1a)Leg Press: 10,10,10,10,10,8,10,10,10,10
1b) Abs (Various)
2a) Stiff-Leg Deads 3x8 (Slow for tension)
2b) Calf Press
Dosage: 1.5 scoops JP8. Timing: Oats --> 45 Mins JP8 --> 45 mins Workout.
Today I didn't feel like I could go forever like I did yesterday, but I think it was because I pushed myself so hard on the leg press. I was amazed at my endurance, only missed 2 reps on the 6th set. I was pushing so hard I broke a good swear just from the leg presses! Today I didn't feel as energetic/refreshed at 1 hour into my workout, but was still great nonetheless!
And yea, Chuck nothing changed except I realized I needed a level scoop, not to the line Also a sign of hard workouts is that it gets my metabolism going and I can't stop eating. Been eating tons yesterday and today which is a good sign.
Also tomorrow I'm going in for some dental surgery. I'm not sure how long he will say I can't hit the gym for, but if he says no gym for a week I might not work out for 2 or 3 days
08-13-2008, 11:22 PM
anyway good luck.
08-13-2008, 11:48 PM
08-14-2008, 12:48 PM
Anyways surgery went well, but I'm not supposed to hit the gym for a week! I'm going to give it 4 days and see how it feels, and add do some lighter weights/more reps next week. Ice on and off for 5 minutes is really tedious lol. Atleast I've got a stash of Tylenol 3's to keep me sedated and happy Can't feel a damn thing.
Probably going to be back in the gym Monday the earliest. It's going to be a glorious 4 days since I'm not allowed solid foods I'm living off UP 2.0 Chocolate Peanut Butter!!! This stuck is addicting! Let's see if 4 lbs will last 4 days.
08-14-2008, 12:57 PM
good luck with that!! That stuff is great!
I hate when they tell you to let them know when it hurts then they clamp your mouth open so you can't talk except for some interesting noises.
And then the sound of drill is louder than your noises. I punched my dentist in the shoulder once because he wasn't listening to my noises!!
SFW and GFH
08-15-2008, 08:05 AM
Wish you fast recovery, Steveoph!
08-18-2008, 09:20 PM
Alright so after 5 days of rest, I'm returning to the gym. I'm not supposed to train for atleast a week, so I might not take the JP8 tomorrow; I know it will make me want to push myself hard and with the still healing wounds in my mouth, too much pressure can easily cause the stitches and scabs to rupture.
Tomorrow I'll post up my cheesecake that I made while out of commission (and downed in 2 days lol, almost ate it before I found my camera!). Also running low on the recreate, it's had a rough last few days but I kept the carbs and cals low so hopefully not too much damage.
08-19-2008, 07:41 AM
Alright, here's a few pictures. I'll take another one of my daily omelette and oat-bran/porridge today, right now I've got my cheesecake (it looked alot more impressive with the whole thing in the cake pan... but I ate it too fast lol). I've also included a picture of what the JP8 container should look like, so you don't think you got shortchanged when you open your container.
08-19-2008, 07:46 AM
Crustless Pumpkin Cheesecake
3x250g Light Cream Cheese (Softened)
500mL (15 oz.) Canned Pumpkin
3 Eggs (Separated)
1 c. Sugar (I used Splenda)
1 Tsp Vanilla Extract
1 Tsp Cinnamon
1/2 Tsp Ginger, Nutmeg, Cloves and Allspice
1 Tbsp Corn Starch
Salt to taste
Mix egg yolks in a beater until thick (~5 minutes), add in softened cream cheese, then all ingredients except whites. In a separate bowl, beat egg whites to a tip, then fold in.
Pour into a spray 10" springboard pan. Bake at 350 for ~60 minutes (Until top darkens), then turn off over and open slightly and allow to cool. Top with whipped cream and ENJOY!
Mine of course cracked because I'm no Martha Stewart, and my cream cheese was kind of old, but it tasted awesome! Next time to make it "lighter" I'll try only 2 blocks of cream cheese, and may an extra egg white or two.
08-19-2008, 07:49 AM
sweet np shirt!
How's the mouth?
SFW and GFH
08-19-2008, 07:54 AM
Still stitched up, but I'm not popping Tylenol 3's every few hours Still can't talk properly, but should be fixed once the stitches are out I'm going to try and hit some weights in an hour, but if I do my HIIT the surgeon will probably be pretty ticked off when I go on Thursday for Post-Op. Thanks for asking.
Looking forward to a big Leg day tomorrow with JP8!
Anyways I'm off to the gym. I took Vassive-NO by ON 30 mins ago, and it's not kicking in much but I think this is all I'm going to get lol.
08-19-2008, 09:44 AM
08-19-2008, 03:21 PM
Mini Vassive-NO Review
Taste: 10/10 - This reminded me of some drink I used to have a kid that was amazing.
Mixability: 10/10 - Like a charm
Energy: 6/10 - Had a bit of a buzz, but that was from the 125mg Caffeine + 75mg from Recreate
Strength/Pumps: 3/10 - Had some vascularity , but I get that anyways having a low bf % and just getting the blood flowing. Not much of a noticeable effect vs. working out plain.
This made me look forward alot more to JP8 tomorrow, although I have to be careful not to push myself too hard! Also I ate my daily omelet and forgot to take a picture, so that's waiting until tomorrow.
Also my daily oat-bran concoction! Note, the blueberries are freaking massive, but that's ~900 mL of water and 1c. of oatbran and berries + 1 scoop berry whey isolate.
08-19-2008, 03:27 PM
- 5'10" 176 lbs.
- Join Date
- Dec 2005
- Rep Power
hooray for blueberry season!
08-19-2008, 03:55 PM
don quixote ftw!
SFW and GFH
08-19-2008, 04:09 PM
- 5'10" 176 lbs.
- Join Date
- Dec 2005
- Rep Power
08-19-2008, 04:56 PM
08-19-2008, 06:35 PM
AWESOME pics buddy!
Best of luck recovering...
\\ USPlabs Alpha Ginger //
08-20-2008, 10:52 AM
Stiff Leg Deadlifts
Lunges (BB & DB)
Hip Abduction & Adduction
Wow looking at that list of exercises it's no wonder I was in the gym almost 90 minutes and was late getting back! JP8 continues to impress me; I wanted to keep hitting the weights so hard (and it was going so well) that I skipped by usual 10-15 mins cool-down cardio to keep doing weights!!! Just a great workout, I was focused and kept at it.
Today I noticed a unusual amount of aggresiveness. Sure the old guy wouldn't let me do lunges in "his space", and I felt like slapping the trainer who was clapping and dancing like a 2 year old to "Jitterbug", but usually I don't get worked up. I tried to channel this anger into my workout, and it really showed when I got a new personal best on leg press.
My stomach issues are back again unfortunately; It may be that my gut is weakened from my antibiotic regime (I'm taking kefir to help my body, but it is still somewhat weakened). Today was the most significant stomach discomfort I've had yet; for the first 45 minutes of my workout I was feeling mildly nauseous during my rest sets, and omitted my core/ab work because of this. I have a bottle of Orange Triad unopened, which has digestion aids included but JP8 is the only thing that bothers my stomach.
PS I See you guys noticed the Don Quixote. I try and read all the classics, so that when I finally become a walking muscle I'll have some brains to back it up with I'm only 1/2 done Don Quixote since it's so long, but last week I read Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn and thoroughly enjoyed those! I've only got 2 weeks left until it's time for the textbooks
08-20-2008, 08:03 PM
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