Smeton's Piracetam log
- 07-19-2008, 01:09 AM
Smeton's Piracetam log
I started on 9 grams of piracetam divided into 3 doses, about 3 grams a piece. You don't want to dose too close to bed or it could be possible piracetam effects sleep. So far so good. i have a clarity feeling I have not felt since my last run of piracetam, which was about a month, in september of 2007. I plan on running my the rest of my
I'll be taking 9 grams per day for the first month ...than a six gram dose every day after.
I'm taking choline citrate with it and when it runs out I'll replace it with Lecithin(many people may debate whether a different choline source is more effective, I want to try Lecithin for myself)
I take in eggs almost daily and meats with contain lecithin. I'm going to make sure I get choline because it's important with piracetam.
The stuff makes me feel very clear headed. I read books. Recently I have not. I'll be writing down words I don't know and looking them up, whether I hear or read them.
so do i think Piracetam works? Yes. this is my first day and I feel the effects. it seems to relax me a bit as well, this could be because it's related to gaba indirectly or something like that.
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- 07-20-2008, 03:26 AM
Today i did about ten grams. I didn't take choline with two doses and felt the same exact feeling as I did when i did ALCAR without choline. I'm going to have to take choline with every meal at at least two of the three dosing's.
I feel different in a good way. I call it the piracetam feeling. I fell alseep today. Could have been the piracetam and also could have been the 45 min treadmill and running outside in 102 temp today . whewwwwFollow me on facebook, twitter and youtube, where I share information and videos to help you achieve your physique goals, John Smeton Ftness
- 07-20-2008, 06:33 AM
Awesome smeton. I have long been curious of piracetam. Never actually went through with trying it as I never felt that there was enough feedback, so I really appreciate you doing this log. Will be watching closely, and thanks. BTW, have you ever tried any of the other "racetams"?
Also, why the 9 gram dose for the 1st month, and 6 thereafter?
07-20-2008, 06:56 AM
Smeton I am really curious about how this ends up working for you.
I have a bunch of piracetam around that I use to use. Its been so long but I use to take it when I was attempting to learn French ...I think it helped.
I'm curious to see if the learning effect remains or goes away after a bit.
I also have and have used aniracetam. That worked sometimes and other times gave me bad lethargy & unmotivated behavior as well as an upset stomach. I kept trying it because the few times I got it dialed in music sounded better, my thought processes were deep. I just can't use it because of the sides.
Thanks for running this log bro.
07-20-2008, 08:39 AM
I tried nootropics a while back, they did tend to create lethargy. I found that lower doses worked as good, and created less of the tired feeling. However, they did seem harsh on the gastro side. Has anyone heard of the new one? Its banned by the WADA.
07-20-2008, 05:02 PM
I studied Piractam and many people have reported that this dose is the best for starting and then tapering down to 3-6 grams per day or staying high. There are no known toxic issues with piracetam as well so I might as well dose high.
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07-20-2008, 05:07 PM
I got lasting results from sulbutamine from three months.
I also used Alcar for two years strait but didn't use a choline source and I made the connection yesterday, this is the exact way I felt when using Alcar, tired, lethagaric, the alc no choline feeling, so to you who have used acetams this is why you felt ried and that depletion feeling because no choline. Alcar might have done more damage than not by not using a choline source. hopefullt it didnt, nothing I can do about it now though if it did. All i can do is do somethign about the future.
07-20-2008, 05:08 PM
07-20-2008, 07:32 PM
07-21-2008, 10:45 PM
Today dose 3 grams 3x's. I could be placebo, hopefully it is the real deal. Thoughts seem to flow, and life is more enjoyable. I seem to have more courage. I seem more louder as well
Today went into my three- four foot pool. Our neighbors pool is like super nice and they have a jaz out side and just nicer than our back yard. Also a hot younger (like 19) girl lives there. We've worked today she didn't want to hangout though.anyways... so far so good.
also seem to do some reframing exercise today very easily. Look it up its an exercise to reframe limiting beliefs. I just got done from the gym and Metallica came on the song Sad but true, and I like to keep positive so I reframed the song Sad but true as sad but true about my unfair genetic biceps. Sad but true..lol
07-22-2008, 01:19 AM
I have heard very good things about Piracetam, look forward to seeing what you get out of it.
Also, if you like looking at different ways to change beliefs, then you should look into Dr Pauls stuff, his MindOS program is really cool.
07-22-2008, 12:44 PM
anyways hard to comment on with all the other variables. Ive been super and I mean beastly horny,I guess I either responded to the pool water, that had something in it , chlorine, or its the piracetam. I have been going off little sleep and unordinarily horny.
Tried it with applied nut igf 1 , two days now,the original and great results.
07-22-2008, 09:30 PM
07-22-2008, 11:00 PM
Smeton, I like to use in the ballpark of 500mg-1000mg of tyrosine with my BCAA during workouts. It seems to give me a mild alert feeling and helps prevent crashes if I use a stim. It sounds like most nootropics have similar effect.
07-23-2008, 02:13 AM
Tyrosine is a great pre-workout supplement and great for restoring adrenal abuse. it supposedly up restores adrenal receptors, Ive heard. I like it pre-training.
Celc5, Heath ledger's performance in the New Batman is supposed to be awesome, my friend told me today.I've always like Batman.
as far as effects, maybe some, not real noticeable, it takes about two weeks to kick in for real improvements as far as motor skills, I believe.I do feel different. Hopefully it's not placebo and real.
07-23-2008, 09:21 AM
Interesting point on adrenal recovery. In hindsight, I think I've been unknowinlgy using it in that manner. Thanks for bringing that to my attention
The Dark Knight was a very entertaining film and worth seeing in theatres. The plot didn't have the depth that Batman Begins offers, but action/entertainment was excellent. Heath Ledger did a good job as the Joker. But, the part was so well written that I think anyone could have played the role just as good.
07-23-2008, 10:09 AM
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07-23-2008, 10:28 AM
07-23-2008, 10:38 AM
07-23-2008, 11:27 AM
Effects of the novel compound aniracetam (Ro 13-5057) upon impaired learning and memory in rodents, R. Cumin, et al., Psychopharmacology, Volume 78, Number 2 / October, 1982
...These improvements or normalizations of impaired cognitive functions were seen at oral aniracetam doses of 10–100 mg/kg. Generally, the dose-response curves were bell-shaped. The mechanisms underlying the activity of aniracetam and its therapeutic window are unknown.
Piracetam, another pyrrolidinone derivative was used for comparison. It was active only in six of nine tests and had about one-tenth the potency of aniracetam. The results indicate that aniracetam improves cognitive functions which are impaired by different procedure and in different phases of the learning and memory process.
07-23-2008, 11:39 AM
07-23-2008, 11:43 AM
I dose a few grams of piracetam for a few weeks each year. I invariably stop taking it because I get crazy insomnia from it..can't stop thinking at night. I feel it definitely improves cognitive function in several ways.
Have yet to try the other 'tams though.
07-23-2008, 02:51 PM
07-23-2008, 03:45 PM
07-23-2008, 03:54 PM
After the citrate runs out I'm going to try lecithin. After doing some more research last night from the piracteman brain food articles part one and two, it mentioned that most people dosed 2.8-4.something grams. I've also read many logs where people where having success with ten grams. Also in the piracetam articles it was saying there are benefits to higher dosing.(It just costs a bit more and goes faster)
Here's a post on http://www.1fast400.com/a95_Brain_Fo...l...apparently this author,David Tolson, is a brain food expert.
07-23-2008, 05:57 PM
A timely (for me, I have capped piracetam on the way) and insightful log. Thank you smeton, and good luck. Doh, looks like I have to spread some more rep, haha.
07-24-2008, 03:16 AM
I capped my own with cap em quick, which equals 500-700 mgs per capsule(I forget I measured it out when i capped, its been many months ago when i capped.
I've changed my dosing to 6-8 grams per day due to scheduling two times daily.
07-24-2008, 08:50 AM
The combo that works best for me is 2 caps of NP's tryptophan about 30min pre-bed. Then about 1g of GABA taken sublingually, let it absorb for about 2-3 minutes, then go immediately to bed. It's cheaper and more effective than most fancy brand name blends IMO.
07-24-2008, 08:21 PM
alright I don't know if this is causing sleep issues but Im putting it to an end.
I'm dosing one time daily in the morning at three grams. It is in my system enough to do this dose. I will say I responded well to the higher doses, even though it's only been five days. My sleep is more important. Oh the ratio is about piracetam/choline 2:1 and sometimes 2:2. This means three grams/ 1.5 grams or 3/3
so I am not saying piracetam causes sleep problems , I'm just saying that I've had them the past couple nights. IIt could have been many other factors; ALTHOUGH THIS COULD BE ONE. HARD TO PIN POINT. Just saying its a possibility
07-24-2008, 10:33 PM
I had no problems BUT I felt that the choline was barely keeping me from being sluggish & that I needed more choline even at that low a dose. Plus I felt sleepier at bedtime.
This stuff seems to just demand that you take in a LOT of choline.
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