eatingisfun's MST Somnidren & ZMK log!!

[eatingisfun]

Woohoo so it finally came and the postage was $6.66
I'm not sure if I should take it now with those numbers associated

OK, joking


To remind you of my application:
• Why should you be selected as a tester? (state your case)
I'm always waking up at least 2 times per night and sometimes 5 times per night. Got a new mattress cover and pillow that helped make my bed more comfortable but still waking up a lot. I also just started a new job which requires me to get up about 1.5 hrs earlier than I have been in the past and I'm not getting as much sleep as I need. I'm probably going to be moving closer to work but not exactly soon. I really can use all the help I can get to remain asleep for the entire night. I've tried PowerFULL and ZMA and they both work pretty well for making me tired and making it easier to fall asleep.
I previously looked into ZMK because it's advantages over ZMA and the price seem right. Unfortunately the last order I made at np I couldn't get it because it was sold out.

So that was about 2 weeks ago and I still hate getting up at 6:30 because I'm really not able to get a full 8 hrs at least half of the nights it seems. Sometimes I'm just not tired especially Sunday night and come Monday morning I'm pretty tired. I guess that's probably the same for most people, although on the weekends I only "sleep in" until 8:00 AM so I don't throw off my rhythm too much.

I'll be trying out the sublingual dosing of Somnidren GH because it smells and tastes not too bad at all and hits me faster than ingesting it. I'll be taking this probably Sunday-Thursday nights so that I'm getting the doses for the night before Mon-Fri and will take Friday night and Saturday night off because the instructions say 5 days on, 2 off.

I'm used to taking ZMA so I will be very interested in trying out ZMK for the first time. I'll be taking that as instructed which is 30-40 mins before bed @ 4 caps.

Tonight will be my first dose so I'll post my initial thoughts tomorrow evening.

Thanks again to all the people at MST for this opportunity.

[CTDeuce]

Looks good...even if you DID copy and paste from Borobulker

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[eatingisfun]

Just the image, the rest is mine

[Zero V]

Looks good...even if you DID copy and paste from Borobulker

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lol thats funny stuff.

Good luck man, you will love this stuf.

[SFRANGER]

If you are having problems sleeping, Somnidren GH and ZMK are awesome. Ive taken both products for several months now and I consistently have awesome sleep. I haven't noticed anything new physique, or strength wise, but it is nice knowing that your going to sleep hard every night naturally. Just my two cents...sorry to hijack!

[eatingisfun]

Looks good...even if you DID copy and paste from Borobulker

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ROFL, I didn't even really notice what you were talking about until now when I looked at the image more carefully.

[eatingisfun]

That's what I get when I try and quickly post a log late at night.

[eatingisfun]

So my first dose was last night. I stayed up a bit late too and I didn't feel too bad today. I did feel like I was a little more relaxed while trying to fall asleep. When I say that I mean that my muscles seemed to be more relaxed and my body felt heavier. I think for the first night it was pretty good. I was already really tired last night. Still woke up I think 2 times but overall was pretty good.

[eatingisfun]

Argh, last night was going good and then my dad starts yelling at my brother at 4:30 AM. I'm trying to sleep here FFS!! I did get back to sleep within about 30 mins max.

I got to bed around 10:30 and got up at 6:30. Right around 8 hrs but not a full 8 hrs solid. Tonight I will try to get to bed at 10PM.

Overall energy today was not bad, I've certainly been more tired before. Hopefully tonight will be better. I also can't wait until I can buy a new organic latex bed. They look really good and should last for a long time without poking any springs in me because there aren't any. Basically it's all natural latex rubber and no off gassing like those memory foam beds.

Today was my off day from the gym and tomorrow is back so I hope to get some decent sleep tonight for that. My back is actually pretty good now so I might try fairly light deads tomorrow. I haven't done that for about a month and a half.

Supps have now changed since my application because I'm through with them for now. I was taking Recreate, Drive, DCP but now those are all dropped because I need to take a break from it.

My diet really never changes except occasionally I'll throw in some lean beef. Mainly why I don't eat it more is that it's hard to take it to work. My cooler is already crammed full of stuff for the day. I pack 4 chicken breasts in a container for the protein.

[SFRANGER]

Ive noticed that Somnidren doesnt do anything if I don't take it on a pretty empty stomach

[CTDeuce]

Ive noticed that Somnidren doesnt do anything if I don't take it on a pretty empty stomach

This is why the directions for these products call for an empty stomach. The product is bringing you to a relaxed state and faster REM sleep and your release of GH completely revolves around the amount of food resting in your gut when you lay down for bed.

Hope that helped a bit

[eatingisfun]

I've moved my last meal earlier so now I wait at least 1.5 hrs before taking it. My last meal is 250g cottage cheese which only has about 10g carbs and also I don't think lactose has much affect on insulin response does it?

Do you think there's any problem taking Somnidren(sublingually) and ZMK with peanut butter?

[CTDeuce]

I've moved my last meal earlier so now I wait at least 1.5 hrs before taking it. My last meal is 250g cottage cheese which only has about 10g carbs and also I don't think lactose has much affect on insulin response does it?

Do you think there's any problem taking Somnidren(sublingually) and ZMK with peanut butter?

Eating with these products is negating what they can truly do for you. You GH release will be much greater using these products on an empty stomach than it ever was prior not using these products at all and eating before bed.

[eatingisfun]

Even just 2 tbsp peanut butter? I thought only the carbs would affect GH release? Somnidren would get in my blood fast through the sublingual method and ZMK would still be absorbed well I thought. If not I can change it around some more.

I will update more tonight on my experiences so far.

[Millennium 1]

Even just 2 tbsp peanut butter? I thought only the carbs would affect GH release? Somnidren would get in my blood fast through the sublingual method and ZMK would still be absorbed well I thought. If not I can change it around some more.

I will update more tonight on my experiences so far.

I don't recommend any food to be taken with S-GH or ZMK. 2 tbl spoons of pb still has roughly 6g of carbs and 16g of fat. The fat would inhibit GH secretion just as much as an insulin spike.

I personally think that people who eat before bed are stunting their gains in a big way. Food before sleep in NOT ANABOLIC like some supplement companies promoting nighttime protein will tell you to sell product. Food in the stomach before bed will inevitably alter neuro transmitter ratios needed for proper sleep and GH release. Food before bed will keep GH from being released and quickly slow down your recovery even though the food source may be protein.

I would eat your cottage cheese (You can add the PB with the cottage cheese if need be) at least an hour (preferably longer) before ingesting ZMK and then take your S-GH sublingually about 20 minutes before hitting the pillow.

You should feel your muscles recovering roughly 24 hours faster than usual after being on this stack for about 2 weeks.

Hope this helps a little.

Keep up the good work!

[eatingisfun]

Thanks, I didn't realize that fat would inhibit GH release. I'll just move that with my cottage cheese then. I'm eating my cottage cheese around 8:30 and then taking the supps around 10 or 10:30 so that should be good.

[eatingisfun]

Updates on sleeping.

So even though I was taking a little PB with the supps it still worked well I think both Wed and Thurs nights. I got to bed at 10PM those nights and fell asleep really fast. A lot of time it would take me 1 hr to get to sleep but I'd say I was asleep within 1/2 hr. Last night I had a weird dream about zombies lol. I guess that could count as strange since I don't normally dream about that sort of thing.

Tonight and tomorrow night will be my off days for Somnidren. Will start back up Sunday night.

[CTDeuce]

Thanks Matt. I always know the answers to the questions, I just don't know how to phrase them nearly half as well as you do

[eatingisfun]

Thursday last week was pretty good doing back. Did deads for 195 lbs, didn't want to push it cause I hurt my back about 1.5 months ago. I think I lifted a little more on chest pulls, just about 5 lbs more but that's a start.

Today was great. I took Somnidren and ZMK last night. While I didn't take it early enough, I took it about only 10-15 mins before going to bed so once I hit the sac I wasn't quite as tired. It must have kicked in though because today I was really awake. Usually I'm grabbing the coffee as soon as I get to work but I really didn't feel like I needed it at all.

When I woke up I felt I could have kept sleeping for a long while as I was still dead tired. But after waking up I was pretty energetic which was great.

My brother is an insomniac so I gave him 4 ZMK and 3 Abyss to see if that helps at all. Just one dose of ZMK and 2 doses Abyss but I want to get him to try it to see if it helps him. He also has a bad back(doc. says just muscular) so that causes a lot of the sleep problems.

So far I haven't noticed anything huge in the lifts or anything but definitely feeling more energy in the afternoons around 3-4PM. Usually I would start to be pretty tired around this time but I'm not quite as tired.

[eatingisfun]

Tuesday and today were great as well. Tuesday I had lots of energy and same with today. Still waking up really tired but once I wake up more I'm not tired.

Dumb brother didn't even take the ZMK I tried to give him so no updated on whether or not that worked.