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    Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023 View Post
    Hey Mullet got a Q for ya.

    I am dosing 3-2 on Powerfull, with the 3 dose coming about 1 hour after my pre workout meal. I have a couple of concerns pertaining to Powerfull being blunted by the carb digestion. I train in the morning so I can't be spending 2 hours just to wait to get to the gym, but I don't want to be wasting the pre dose. Is 1 hour after a 100+ gram carb meal going to be detrimental to the point where I should adjust my dosing scheme where I can take it on an emptier stomach? My only concern about going down that route is I won't be harnessing the full GH benefits of PFull during my workout. Also let me know if I am over analyzing this (I have a tendency to do this).

    Any insight on how to make this most time efficient/supplement efficient is appreciated man.
    Well, only the GH-releasing aspects of PowerFULL is negated by Insulin secretion. The steroidal saponins, as well as the coordination, motivation, and increased muscular contraction effects that are associated with dopaminergic transmission, are not effected. In reality, the curve under which GH is allowed to operate (you have to think - you're eating carbohydrates after your workout either way) during a workout period, is not long enough to take major effect. This is why the pre-bed dose - at least in terms of GH - is the more important one.

    In other words: play on playa.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Well, only the GH-releasing aspects of PowerFULL is negated by Insulin secretion. The steroidal saponins, as well as the coordination, motivation, and increased muscular contraction effects that are associated with dopaminergic transmission, are not effected. In reality, the curve under which GH is allowed to operate (you have to think - you're eating carbohydrates after your workout either way) during a workout period, is not long enough to take major effect. This is why the pre-bed dose - at least in terms of GH - is the more important one.

    In other words: play on playa.

    True, didn't think of that (considering insulin plays a big role in managing cortisol levels, thinking of negating insulin during the workout would be detrimental in its own right/not really manageable enough to where I should b concerned). I was also over looking the multiple components of Powerful as far as gym benefits. Good to hear that, I hated having to wait an abnormal amount of time before hitting the gym.

    One other quick question for ya Kenton; since I am beginning ReCreate tomorrow, as far as dosing is concerned, would you advise my morning dose be taken 30 minutes prior to my pre workout meal (thus 15 minutes before I pop P-Slin) or would it be utilized just as well if I took it 30-40 minutes after my meal with my PFull dose? I remember Jacob discussing ReCreate dosing after meals, but never found a clear answer if it detracts from its ingredients.

    Update tomorrow as well guys. Already seeing number increases in the gym and such and a couple other goodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023 View Post
    True, didn't think of that (considering insulin plays a big role in managing cortisol levels, thinking of negating insulin during the workout would be detrimental in its own right/not really manageable enough to where I should b concerned). I was also over looking the multiple components of Powerful as far as gym benefits. Good to hear that, I hated having to wait an abnormal amount of time before hitting the gym.

    One other quick question for ya Kenton; since I am beginning ReCreate tomorrow, as far as dosing is concerned, would you advise my morning dose be taken 30 minutes prior to my pre workout meal (thus 15 minutes before I pop P-Slin) or would it be utilized just as well if I took it 30-40 minutes after my meal with my PFull dose? I remember Jacob discussing ReCreate dosing after meals, but never found a clear answer if it detracts from its ingredients.

    Update tomorrow as well guys. Already seeing number increases in the gym and such and a couple other goodies.
    I usually take it at the same time as P-Slin, not adverse reactions for me.

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    1 Week update tomorrow. Was away in NYC so couldn't get that mini update up.

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    Well its been a week since starting, and although I wasn't expecting too much in the way of "updatable" news, I am pleasantly surprised thus far.


    First off let me start with the P-Slin. I've dosed AP before my pre workout carb meals (that have always been around 100 grams or so) and have been finding that vascularity along with a sense of being hungry sooner than I use to be ever increasing (when I say sense of being hungrier, I use to down that meal and be full throughout the duration of my gym time, now I find I could easily put down more food within an hour). I love the fact that P-Slin is making it so I don't feel full and sluggish with the large meal I am putting down about an hour before I lift. P-Slin thus far is highly impressive, because like I mentioned before, I can honestly feel the sense of a "nutrient pump" as opposed to a purely aesthetic NO pump.

    As you recall, I have used Powerfull in the past with solid results, but the time frame in which they are emerging is far more drastic this time around. Strength increases are already present (in the form of more weights, and higher reps). Dosing 3 30-40 minutes after my pre meal (which I thought would be an issue has been no problem) 30 minutes before I lift has been my sweet spot. I would like to add that I have legitimately not had a zit/pimple in the last 8 months (don't ask how, I don't know why or how I had this) but within 1 week of starting Powerfull (3-2 dosing) I have noticed 3 random zits and oilier skin around my nose. I can't say I enjoy the addition of some zits, but as well all know thats sides that are complimentary to beneficial aspects of Powerfull.

    Onto ReCreate. I was toying with dosing schemes and found (from the advice of Mullet) I am using 2 with my P-Slin dose and 2 in the afternoon. Not only do I find that the P-Slin dose completely alleviates the drowsiness that I had felt in the past when I only dosed Powerfull, but I can say that I look leaner/harder since dosing. ReCreate is not the the only factor in the former statement, as AP/P-Slin are certainly having a good role in it, but ReCreate is really making this a "lean Bulk"

    Thats about as much as I have seen for week 1. Since I am onto week 3 of my new routine and week 2 of Powerfull/USP Ultimo stack, I think I will be recording PRs and such. Also 2nd weigh in , where I will also have original numbers, will be completed on Sunday morning (although it may be later in the day since I will be at a Snoop concert the night before (unfortunately no drinking )


    Oh and one last thing. A new juice bar girl started working at my gym last week (I actually went out of my way to get a protein shake after my Sunday workout) so I am going to be going after her, so if I can pull that off I will grant it to my Powefull libido enhancer for giving the extra edge ahahah (oh and since my gf broke up with me for beating the piss out of some dude who threw a drink on here, PFull will be coming in handy on the singles scene ).

    Until next time gents!

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    Good post mate - I'll be following your progress closely - this is a stack I'll be considering in the future

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