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  1. Quote Originally Posted by SamBoz19 View Post
    Skills like yours bud is what should be referred to as dedication...lol. Definitely a great wealth of knowledge you have...always something educational and entertaining to take from a lot of your posts. Good Stuff!

    Cheers!
    Thanks man! I really appreciate comments like that.


  2. I agree about mixing up the diet... My breakfast was 8 egg whites, 3 turkey sausages, and 3 pieces Ezekiel toast for the longest time... now it's been 1/3lb lean sirloin burger, some veggies, and Buckwheat cereal or gluten-free creamy rice cereal.
    Freedom means nothing here.
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  3. Well today was the first real workout where I noticed a difference, and it came in the way of above average vascularity. P-Slin really kicked in after my first set of BB rows and my arms were looking like damn road maps as I finished up with rear BB shrugs. I don't recall Powerfull providing too much in the way of pumps when I dosed it a while back, but I am also at a lower bf now so it may have had a hand in the occurrence.

    Probably the best part of the workout was knowing I wasn't just seeing a NO pump, but rather a worthwhile nutrient driving pump. No chance in pre workout meals have been made, but i do plan on adding in a banana to up my fruit intake.

    Looking forward to some increases in strength that will come in the next few weeks with the PFULL, and will be adding in the ReCreate shortly (probably within the next 2 weeks).

  4. Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023 View Post
    Well today was the first real workout where I noticed a difference, and it came in the way of above average vascularity. P-Slin really kicked in after my first set of BB rows and my arms were looking like damn road maps as I finished up with rear BB shrugs. I don't recall Powerfull providing too much in the way of pumps when I dosed it a while back, but I am also at a lower bf now so it may have had a hand in the occurrence.

    Probably the best part of the workout was knowing I wasn't just seeing a NO pump, but rather a worthwhile nutrient driving pump. No chance in pre workout meals have been made, but i do plan on adding in a banana to up my fruit intake.

    Looking forward to some increases in strength that will come in the next few weeks with the PFULL, and will be adding in the ReCreate shortly (probably within the next 2 weeks).
    Food Pump!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Food Pump!
    delicious carbs how I love thei
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023 View Post
    delicious carbs how I love thei
    Hark, doth my eyes beckon a sweet glean of doughnut icing, once lover scorned but hitherto upon me, close as a child to rearing mother's bust?

  7. Try half a strawberry-rhubarb crumble, continuously snacked on all day. I knew I should have put it in the downstairs fridge. Oh well, I'm bulking now so it's all good Was made with Splenda of course, and oats for the topping!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Hark, doth my eyes beckon a sweet glean of doughnut icing, once lover scorned but hitherto upon me, close as a child to rearing mother's bust?
    lmao thats priceless. I would try to add but I would just fail miserably seeing as how I have not seen Shakespeare for quite some time.

    Steveo ~ My problem is I don't snack on delicious foods, I go to town baby! lol. Why do you think I count the days until Thanksgiving?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023 View Post
    lmao thats priceless. I would try to add but I would just fail miserably seeing as how I have not seen Shakespeare for quite some time.

    Steveo ~ My problem is I don't snack on delicious foods, I go to town baby! lol. Why do you think I count the days until Thanksgiving?
    I hear you... I used to do this, until I gave myself a course of DL-Phenylalanine at 750mg 3x per day, tapered down to 2, then to 1. Quite the amino acid therapy. Appy has been corrected 100%! I get hungry at the right times and I just can't go overboard.
    Freedom means nothing here.

  10. FOG ~ I could have used that strategy about 2 years ago when I came off my fat boy to super skinny time period and developed a massive eating disorder lol. I can control eating now (more so because I am not paranoid about eating any more). I only go all out on holidays now, or when I want to go on a 10 mile run (a benefit of actually enjoying really long runs is the food requirements that accompany it).

    Hey Mullet got a Q for ya.

    I am dosing 3-2 on Powerfull, with the 3 dose coming about 1 hour after my pre workout meal. I have a couple of concerns pertaining to Powerfull being blunted by the carb digestion. I train in the morning so I can't be spending 2 hours just to wait to get to the gym, but I don't want to be wasting the pre dose. Is 1 hour after a 100+ gram carb meal going to be detrimental to the point where I should adjust my dosing scheme where I can take it on an emptier stomach? My only concern about going down that route is I won't be harnessing the full GH benefits of PFull during my workout. Also let me know if I am over analyzing this (I have a tendency to do this).

    Any insight on how to make this most time efficient/supplement efficient is appreciated man.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023 View Post
    Hey Mullet got a Q for ya.

    I am dosing 3-2 on Powerfull, with the 3 dose coming about 1 hour after my pre workout meal. I have a couple of concerns pertaining to Powerfull being blunted by the carb digestion. I train in the morning so I can't be spending 2 hours just to wait to get to the gym, but I don't want to be wasting the pre dose. Is 1 hour after a 100+ gram carb meal going to be detrimental to the point where I should adjust my dosing scheme where I can take it on an emptier stomach? My only concern about going down that route is I won't be harnessing the full GH benefits of PFull during my workout. Also let me know if I am over analyzing this (I have a tendency to do this).

    Any insight on how to make this most time efficient/supplement efficient is appreciated man.
    Well, only the GH-releasing aspects of PowerFULL is negated by Insulin secretion. The steroidal saponins, as well as the coordination, motivation, and increased muscular contraction effects that are associated with dopaminergic transmission, are not effected. In reality, the curve under which GH is allowed to operate (you have to think - you're eating carbohydrates after your workout either way) during a workout period, is not long enough to take major effect. This is why the pre-bed dose - at least in terms of GH - is the more important one.

    In other words: play on playa.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Well, only the GH-releasing aspects of PowerFULL is negated by Insulin secretion. The steroidal saponins, as well as the coordination, motivation, and increased muscular contraction effects that are associated with dopaminergic transmission, are not effected. In reality, the curve under which GH is allowed to operate (you have to think - you're eating carbohydrates after your workout either way) during a workout period, is not long enough to take major effect. This is why the pre-bed dose - at least in terms of GH - is the more important one.

    In other words: play on playa.

    True, didn't think of that (considering insulin plays a big role in managing cortisol levels, thinking of negating insulin during the workout would be detrimental in its own right/not really manageable enough to where I should b concerned). I was also over looking the multiple components of Powerful as far as gym benefits. Good to hear that, I hated having to wait an abnormal amount of time before hitting the gym.

    One other quick question for ya Kenton; since I am beginning ReCreate tomorrow, as far as dosing is concerned, would you advise my morning dose be taken 30 minutes prior to my pre workout meal (thus 15 minutes before I pop P-Slin) or would it be utilized just as well if I took it 30-40 minutes after my meal with my PFull dose? I remember Jacob discussing ReCreate dosing after meals, but never found a clear answer if it detracts from its ingredients.

    Update tomorrow as well guys. Already seeing number increases in the gym and such and a couple other goodies.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by OCCFan023 View Post
    True, didn't think of that (considering insulin plays a big role in managing cortisol levels, thinking of negating insulin during the workout would be detrimental in its own right/not really manageable enough to where I should b concerned). I was also over looking the multiple components of Powerful as far as gym benefits. Good to hear that, I hated having to wait an abnormal amount of time before hitting the gym.

    One other quick question for ya Kenton; since I am beginning ReCreate tomorrow, as far as dosing is concerned, would you advise my morning dose be taken 30 minutes prior to my pre workout meal (thus 15 minutes before I pop P-Slin) or would it be utilized just as well if I took it 30-40 minutes after my meal with my PFull dose? I remember Jacob discussing ReCreate dosing after meals, but never found a clear answer if it detracts from its ingredients.

    Update tomorrow as well guys. Already seeing number increases in the gym and such and a couple other goodies.
    I usually take it at the same time as P-Slin, not adverse reactions for me.

  14. 1 Week update tomorrow. Was away in NYC so couldn't get that mini update up.

  15. Well its been a week since starting, and although I wasn't expecting too much in the way of "updatable" news, I am pleasantly surprised thus far.


    First off let me start with the P-Slin. I've dosed AP before my pre workout carb meals (that have always been around 100 grams or so) and have been finding that vascularity along with a sense of being hungry sooner than I use to be ever increasing (when I say sense of being hungrier, I use to down that meal and be full throughout the duration of my gym time, now I find I could easily put down more food within an hour). I love the fact that P-Slin is making it so I don't feel full and sluggish with the large meal I am putting down about an hour before I lift. P-Slin thus far is highly impressive, because like I mentioned before, I can honestly feel the sense of a "nutrient pump" as opposed to a purely aesthetic NO pump.

    As you recall, I have used Powerfull in the past with solid results, but the time frame in which they are emerging is far more drastic this time around. Strength increases are already present (in the form of more weights, and higher reps). Dosing 3 30-40 minutes after my pre meal (which I thought would be an issue has been no problem) 30 minutes before I lift has been my sweet spot. I would like to add that I have legitimately not had a zit/pimple in the last 8 months (don't ask how, I don't know why or how I had this) but within 1 week of starting Powerfull (3-2 dosing) I have noticed 3 random zits and oilier skin around my nose. I can't say I enjoy the addition of some zits, but as well all know thats sides that are complimentary to beneficial aspects of Powerfull.

    Onto ReCreate. I was toying with dosing schemes and found (from the advice of Mullet) I am using 2 with my P-Slin dose and 2 in the afternoon. Not only do I find that the P-Slin dose completely alleviates the drowsiness that I had felt in the past when I only dosed Powerfull, but I can say that I look leaner/harder since dosing. ReCreate is not the the only factor in the former statement, as AP/P-Slin are certainly having a good role in it, but ReCreate is really making this a "lean Bulk"

    Thats about as much as I have seen for week 1. Since I am onto week 3 of my new routine and week 2 of Powerfull/USP Ultimo stack, I think I will be recording PRs and such. Also 2nd weigh in , where I will also have original numbers, will be completed on Sunday morning (although it may be later in the day since I will be at a Snoop concert the night before (unfortunately no drinking )


    Oh and one last thing. A new juice bar girl started working at my gym last week (I actually went out of my way to get a protein shake after my Sunday workout) so I am going to be going after her, so if I can pull that off I will grant it to my Powefull libido enhancer for giving the extra edge ahahah (oh and since my gf broke up with me for beating the piss out of some dude who threw a drink on here, PFull will be coming in handy on the singles scene ).

    Until next time gents!

  16. Good post mate - I'll be following your progress closely - this is a stack I'll be considering in the future
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