Can you get a cold from Molecular X Factor?
- 05-25-2008, 12:01 AM
- 05-25-2008, 12:38 AM
from my understanding...NO...but maybe jjohn can chime in on this...
- 05-25-2008, 12:54 AM
I googled vasodilation medications can cause cough and things are coming up, so maybe I should stop x factor for a week and see what happens. ?????
05-25-2008, 07:26 AM
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Unless you go whooping cough going on I wouldn't stop the X-Factor, because you get the benefits from it loading up in your system. Go to the store and see if you can get one of those super concentrated greens powders, when ever I feel a cold I take those for a few days and it usually blocks the cold from ever amounting to anything.
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05-25-2008, 02:14 PM
well first off xfactor isnt a "vasodilation medication" its a supplement...and i HIGHLY doubt ur cough is from the xfactor...the only thing i can kinda think if is xfactor can raise luekotrienes and this MIGHT attribute to getting a cough...but thats just a bogus theory...
05-25-2008, 02:20 PM
I have no cold and have been on X-factor for a month.
05-25-2008, 02:36 PM
^^^what he said.
05-25-2008, 11:56 PM
Are you sure there is no possibility, don't get me wrong guys I love the benefits of XF, but this dry cough is killing me and I have seen 2 dif doctors and they can't explain this f en cough. I know xf is a supp an not a med by the way it was a n ex.
05-25-2008, 11:58 PM
By the way, I just realized I put a cold when I meant a dry cough, big mistake, but I will edit it.
05-26-2008, 12:37 AM
exactly what i said earlier...the ONLY possibility of xfactor making a cough is the fact taht it raises leukotrienes and that could possibly make u susceptible to catch a cough...but even that it very very very unlikely...i think most doctors are crap anyways... so just keep on it...
here is an image if the breakdown of AA...do ur own research on each of the prostaglandins and u might find ur answer...i hope that helped...good luck
05-26-2008, 01:06 AM
Smart guy, I googled Arachnadonic acid and dry cough, found basically what you are saying. Now this cough is keeping me up at night, I can't talk to people sometimes with my throat so harsh. If i stay on xf what can I do? To stop this cough?
05-26-2008, 09:46 AM
I think the world would benefit from more doctors that were engineers in a former life.
05-26-2008, 12:47 PM
05-26-2008, 09:10 PM
05-26-2008, 09:12 PM
05-26-2008, 09:14 PM
This would be an excellent opportunity to drop in and view my log in my sig.
05-27-2008, 02:08 PM
05-27-2008, 02:10 PM
technically aa will enhance and strengthen the immune system. i have been cycling it for the past year and incredibily - i have not been sick once. though i don't quickly tout xfactor with the cudos for that - i do wonder sometime if it is what helped me. especially in the office environment i am in and how the bug du jour passes down the corridor where i work - i am amazed what things bypassed me!
05-27-2008, 09:14 PM
Oddly enough I got a cold on Day 18, but I hope to be working out again tomorrow morning and shake it in no time. I haven't caught a cold in... oh I don't know probably a year+ but I must have had it coming Even when my 4 housemates were sick I managed to avoid it.
05-28-2008, 12:07 AM
I have been off xf for 3 days, I will see if it goes away.
05-28-2008, 01:23 AM
ur correct technically its not considered a vasodilation supplement but new studies as well as real world results are indicating it works very well as a vaso supplement especially when taken preworkout it can substantially increase NOS which will lead to a more pronounced pump...
05-28-2008, 09:42 AM
so is it a catalyst for NO production like other vasodilation NO products? what does promote vasodilation mean compared to products that actually increase/produce NO in the body?
05-28-2008, 01:11 PM
one of my above posts shows the synthesis of AA in the body and what prostaglandins it converts to...some of those "enzymes" can promote extreme ?muscle relaxation? which will lead to more blood getting to the muscle...for more information about this i suggest u contact jjohn...
05-28-2008, 01:30 PM
05-28-2008, 01:34 PM
The problem with these flow charts is that they show all pathways in an 'equal' light. I don't know (or anyone) for certain what % of these pathways convert to. This is part of the upregulation of NOS for nitric oxide production.
How much ? It is possibly it does upregulate nitric oxide but an appreciable amount is another story. I kinda alluded to these unknown conversion factors in my log which still remain unknown till now.
05-28-2008, 01:34 PM
05-28-2008, 01:36 PM
05-28-2008, 01:45 PM
I think it is all relative. I think that strict nitric oxide supplements are honestly a waste of money and I'll be the first to admit to buy them just for the hell of it.
Even if there is dialation occuring in the blood vessels, I can't imagine that it is an appreciable amount to actually make a massive difference in nutrient repartitioning.
Even if it does then are they really worth $50+ dollars ?
A pump is really just localized edema in the muscle, and I question the need to even have them.
Like a lot of people here, I was told that it is dead necessary to have a 'pump' in order to grow muscle, however, im my own experience this hasen't been the case.
For me anyway, the biggest determining factor in putting on muscle is just heavier weights. I've tried attacking it from every angle, but once I started really increasing my weight load and disreguarding pumps, etc is when I made my best gains.
05-28-2008, 01:50 PM
i guess what my real question relates to is wording. in all literature/marketing material of x-factor they indicate it promotes vasodilation (not going all the way and indicating its a vasodilation product). so i am really asking what does promote mean in comparison to a vasodilation product - not the difference in the vasodilation affects ones gest with it or another vaso product.
05-28-2008, 01:51 PM
05-28-2008, 01:56 PM
Probably what X-Factor's claims are supposed to mean are that it is going to help facilitate it as opposed to directly causing it.
Assuming you take PlasmaJet solely for nitric oxide, X-Factor is more of a 'well, you should possibly get some pumps from this too'
Probably the most noticible effect from X-Factor is some reduction in fat. Pumps are too inconsistant to be conclusive, same thing with DOMS.
05-28-2008, 02:02 PM
Did they give you a cough medicine with codeine such as hycodan or robitussin w/ codeine? Nothing suppresses the cough mechanism in the cerebral medulla better than codeine based cough suppressants.
There are so many factors that could be causing this. Many as simple as an URI(upper respiratory infection or common cold), or living in a very dry climate that can cause drying out of the nasal mucousa and posterior oropharyx leading to irritation and a subsequent cough reflex. An air humidifier at night can help alleviate this issue.
You did the right thing going to the doctor and getting blood work done to source possible infectious process. Did they do a chest x-ray?
Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
05-28-2008, 02:50 PM
05-28-2008, 02:55 PM
05-28-2008, 06:08 PM
no it does not work the same as arginine...it works through different pathways...but it does create a vasodialation effect...this is why jjohn takes AA b4 workouts because it helps with pumps...i dont think i can explain this anymore than i already have but if u still have unanswered questions i think u should contact jjohn (MN rep)...
10-18-2009, 02:03 PM
I know this post is so old but just to let everyone know, the cold went away 8 f$ken months later and had 2 chest x-rays. Still never found out what it was. Thank God it's gone now though.
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