Epic Pulse Cycle of Epidrol
- 04-17-2008, 10:18 PM
Epic Pulse Cycle of Epidrol
The deal: starting Monday will be my first cycle, and I'm excited to be able to log this for myself and other uses. Decided on Epidrol due to it's mild shutdown and mild side effects if any. The cycle length will be 6 weeks in duration, with a shortening of cycle pending due to results and sides.
Years Training: 7 (5 seriously)
Goals for this cycle: Bulk up, pretty much gain as much lean body mass as possible.
Training schedule: Since this is a pulse I will be doing a Monday/Wednesday/Friday workout.
Monday: Chest and Back, abs, Calves
Wednesday: Shoulders and Arms, Abs
Friday: Legs, Calves, Abs
Post cycle Support (Taken on off days to help minimize suppression)
Cycle support (chocolate)
Life support (pill version of above)
Taurine Powder (100 gm)
Adam (60 tabs)
Poseidon (450 grams)
Trisorbagen (90 caps)
Liv.52 (Liver Care) (90 tabs)
L-Leucine (500 grams)
Bulk Bcaa (250 grams)
Post cycle Support
Indole-3-Carbinol (I3C) (60 caps)
ZMA (180 caps)
6oxo (Trione - 90caps)
Diet: Will try keep calories about 3500 - 4000 per day. Will be keeping protein through natural sources high, as well as Low GI carbs, and dirty low GI when I'm in a hurry or need extra calories. will keep fat intake moderate as well.
Rep ranges: Will be doing 3 exercises per body group, with 8-12 reps per set, going as heavy as I can really!
Log layout will look like this to rate supplement:
Epidrol Dosing for Pulse: (may pump to 40 depending on results)
wk 1 10-20-30
wk 2 30-30-30
wk 3 30-30-30
wk 4 30-30-30
wk 5 30-30-30
wk 6 30-30-30
Post Cycle Support- 2 servings a day
I3C- 3 caps/2 caps/1 cap/1 cap
ZMA- 3 caps a day
I'd like to thank dmangiarelli and evolution for their willingness to help me plan this, especially dmangiarelli for helping me with my OTC PCT.
I have access to a SERM if things really take a turn for the worse.
Hope you enjoy the log, and I will try keep it as detailed as possible. Starts 2 days from today. Enjoy
- 04-19-2008, 08:29 PM
04-20-2008, 01:01 AM
04-20-2008, 05:00 AM
started taking my Liv52 3 days ago, and two servings per day, a little late for a pre-load, but thought it might be helpful, also have started loading b-5 at 8-10grams per day to help fend off any outbreaks.
Really excited for this cycle, tomorrow I will weigh in before I take my dosage, and report back with my pre-cycle weight.
Also I have just had my body fat and girth measurements taken as of today, so they are as up to date as they can get, and they were done thoroughly by a lecturer at my university, so as far as accuracy goes, this is as good as it gets for free.
I will repost the details below:
04-20-2008, 05:04 AM
(Heath-Carter) Endomorphy 2.2 Mesomorphy 5.7 Ectomorphy 2.7
Body Mass Index (BMI) 24.1
Waist/Hip Ratio (WHR) 0.82
Sum of 6 skinfolds 58.0
(Excl. Biceps & Iliac Crest) 8.7 %fat (Yuhasz)
Sum of 8 skinfolds 74.1 mm
04-20-2008, 05:09 AM
Body mass 84.2 kg -0.13
Stretch stature 187 cm
Sitting height 93.5 cm -1.07
Triceps sf 8.3 mm -1.75
Subscapular sf 10.4 mm -1.53
Biceps sf 4.0 mm -2.18
Iliac Crest sf 12.1 mm -1.67
Supraspinale sf 6.1 mm -2.20
Abdominal sf 11.4 mm -1.93
Front Thigh sf 12.0 mm -1.93
Medial Calf sf 9.8 mm -1.52
Head girth 56.3 mm -3.31
Neck girth 38.2 mm -0.08
Arm girth relaxed 35.3 cm 2.25
Corrected arm girth 32.7 cm 4.03
Arm girth flexed and tensed 38.7 mm 2.45
Forearm girth (max. relaxed) 29.0 mm 0.89
Wrist girth (distal styloid) 15.9 mm -2.61
Chest girth (mesosternale) 104.8 mm 1.45
Waist girth (min.) 82.3 mm 0.67
Gluteal girth (max.) 100.2 mm -0.63
Thigh girth (1 cm dist. glut. line) 59.5 mm -0.40
Thigh girth (mid tro-tib lat) 57.3 mm -0.24
Calf girth (max.) 39.3 mm 0.22
Corrected calf girth (max.) 36.2 cm 1.39
Ankle girth (min.) 21.6 cm -1.58
Acromiale-radiale 25.8 cm -5.11
Radiale-stylion 29.7 cm 1.76
Midstylion-dactylion 20.8 cm 0.04
Iliospinale ht 117.3 cm 2.67
Trochanterion ht 101.4 cm 1.35
Trochanterion-tibiale laterale 45.0 cm -0.19
Tibiale laterale ht 57.1 cm 2.53
Tibiale mediale-sphyrion tibiale 42.5 cm 0.87
Biacromial breadth 45.6 cm 1.80
Biiliocristal breadth 29.0 cm -1.40
Foot length (ak-pt) 27.3 cm -0.60
Transverse chest breadth 27.2 cm -1.82
A-P Chest depth 40.2 cm 13.80
Humerus breadth (biepicondylar) 7.4 cm 0.73
Femur breadth (biepicondylar) 10.0 cm -0.87
04-20-2008, 05:10 AM
On the post above, the last number of every row, is called a phantom Z value, which is my numbers compared to the average person my weight and height etc.
04-20-2008, 09:23 PM
Day 1 (10mgs Epidrol and 1 Trisorbagen)
Taken with food 40 min pre workout.
Shoulders and Arms:
Strength:normal/ up slightly
Overall Energy:up slightly
Personal Commentary:Well due to how excited I was, some of the results may be placebo. Main thing I noticed was a increase in energy, half way through my workout I still felt eager to do more. May have been placebo. I noticed as well a huge increase in pump, may be due to the increase in water I am having due to being on orals, but every exercise I did, right from the get go, got me pumped! This was one of the most extreme pumps I've had, hope this continues.
04-21-2008, 12:14 AM
Also will be adding pictures up tonight, so there will be pre cycle pics, as well as adding post cycle pics later.
04-21-2008, 05:46 AM
04-21-2008, 10:38 AM
04-21-2008, 02:10 PM
04-21-2008, 05:32 PM
04-21-2008, 05:33 PM
04-21-2008, 08:15 PM
04-21-2008, 08:25 PM
1 dose of PCS in the morning with food.
1 dose Life Support.
1 serving Poseidon (got he flush)
2.5grams of b-5
So far so good, nothing much to mention other than no DOMS from yesterdays killer workout. No sides.
04-22-2008, 09:39 PM
Day 2 (20mgs Epidrol and 1 Trisorbagen)
Taken with food 1hour pre workout.
Legs and abs:
Strength:normal/ up slightly
Overall Energy:up slightly
Personal Commentary: Great strength today, got my ATG squats up nicely, and always thrashed my calves, got cramps in the higher rep stuff, took 1.5g taurine, might have to up that. Really great pump in the quads, almost painful.Good workout, next one will bump to 30mgs, that should rock!
04-22-2008, 10:14 PM
04-22-2008, 10:21 PM
04-24-2008, 05:50 AM
Day 2 of off day (4 Post Cycle Support, 2 scoops Cycle Support)
Also have been dosing 10mgs b5 per day over 4 doses.
Not much to mention, libido has been up the past few days, annoyingly so sometimes... and today noticed a alpha male mentality coming in... as well as slight roid rage when I was hungry, in fact my appetite is up somewhat.
so far so good though, no real sides apart from libido and increased hunger. Which are both welcomed
04-25-2008, 12:28 AM
Day 3 of off days (4 Post cycle Support, 2 scoops Cycle Support)
Public holiday here, so gym was closed, much to my annoyance, so have to take today off, and take the 30mgs of Epi tomorrow for chest and back, which will be an epic workout I'm hoping. Will be my first time taking 30, so should be nice, hopefully a brutal pump and some nice strength gains.
Post Cycle Support has been good on the off days, libido is sky high, like way high, and the alpha male mentality is really on now. i see what people mean when they feel 'on'.
Calves are in pain from the other days leg workout, hope they have recovered by tomorrow as I'd like to blast them again with chest and back and bring them up to standard while on cycle.
I am noticing that while taking Cycle Support my stomach becomes a bit runny, if you know what I mean, I have been taking it with small meals.. should I take it with more carbohydrates or what?? I usually mix it in with a protein shake... any advise?
Otherwise, it's all going to plan so far, no sides to speak of, just increased hunger, slightly angrier, and libido up.
04-26-2008, 01:40 AM
im on board man. ill be running a similar pulse but with propadrol on "on" days. and psarm/formadrol for pct....i think. ive got plenty of time to research so we'll see.
what all cycles have you run prior? and have you ever run any type of epi?
keep us all posted and good luck!
04-26-2008, 01:59 AM
Day 3 (20mgs pre + 10mgs post Epidrol and 2 Trisorbagen)
Taken with food 1hour pre workout and 1 hour post.
Chest, Back and Abs
Bodyweight/Body Comp:Leaning out
Personal Commentary: Started with chest, and really didn't notice much of a strength increase, but may have been due to a poor warm up, as the workout went on the strength increases were evident, especially on back, where I was able to set a new PR on seated row and complete 5 sets of it.. which is crazy! Pump was huge, and biceps felt like they were going to pop, forearms were pumped as hell to.
04-26-2008, 02:02 AM
04-26-2008, 10:09 AM
i think this cycle was really well planned out. I like it but i must say you might want to leave the last weeks open for bumping of the epi doses. Im very curious on your results turn out.
04-26-2008, 04:59 PM
04-26-2008, 05:42 PM
I am still deliberating over how to take my 30mgs... 20 pre and 10 post or the whole 30 pre??? Any comments?
04-26-2008, 05:43 PM
04-26-2008, 06:29 PM
04-26-2008, 09:51 PM
what time of your day do you workout?
taking dosages closer to waking time will have a lesser effect on suppression.
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