Epic Pulse Cycle of Epidrol

Page 1 of 7 1236 ... Last
  1. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0

    Epic Pulse Cycle of Epidrol


    The deal: starting Monday will be my first cycle, and I'm excited to be able to log this for myself and other uses. Decided on Epidrol due to it's mild shutdown and mild side effects if any. The cycle length will be 6 weeks in duration, with a shortening of cycle pending due to results and sides.

    Name:Craig
    Age: 27
    Years Training: 7 (5 seriously)
    Goals for this cycle: Bulk up, pretty much gain as much lean body mass as possible.
    Training schedule: Since this is a pulse I will be doing a Monday/Wednesday/Friday workout.

    Routine:
    Monday: Chest and Back, abs, Calves
    Wednesday: Shoulders and Arms, Abs
    Friday: Legs, Calves, Abs

    Supplements:

    During cycle:
    Epidrol (obviously)
    Post cycle Support (Taken on off days to help minimize suppression)
    Cycle support (chocolate)
    Life support (pill version of above)
    Taurine Powder (100 gm)
    Adam (60 tabs)
    Poseidon (450 grams)
    Trisorbagen (90 caps)
    Liv.52 (Liver Care) (90 tabs)
    L-Leucine (500 grams)
    Bulk Bcaa (250 grams)

    PCT
    Post cycle Support
    Indole-3-Carbinol (I3C) (60 caps)
    ZMA (180 caps)
    6oxo (Trione - 90caps)

    Diet: Will try keep calories about 3500 - 4000 per day. Will be keeping protein through natural sources high, as well as Low GI carbs, and dirty low GI when I'm in a hurry or need extra calories. will keep fat intake moderate as well.

    Rep ranges: Will be doing 3 exercises per body group, with 8-12 reps per set, going as heavy as I can really!

    Log layout will look like this to rate supplement:

    Strength:
    Bodyweight/Body Comp:
    Pumps/Vascularity:
    Endurance:
    Aggression:
    Focus:
    Libido:
    Muscle Density/Hardening:
    Overall Energy:
    Personal Commentary:

    Epidrol Dosing for Pulse:
    (may pump to 40 depending on results)
    wk 1 10-20-30
    wk 2 30-30-30
    wk 3 30-30-30
    wk 4 30-30-30
    wk 5 30-30-30
    wk 6 30-30-30

    PCT Dosing:
    Weeks 1-4:
    Post Cycle Support- 2 servings a day
    I3C- 3 caps/2 caps/1 cap/1 cap
    ZMA- 3 caps a day

    Weeks 4-7:
    6oxo- 300/200/100

    I'd like to thank dmangiarelli and evolution for their willingness to help me plan this, especially dmangiarelli for helping me with my OTC PCT.

    I have access to a SERM if things really take a turn for the worse.

    Hope you enjoy the log, and I will try keep it as detailed as possible. Starts 2 days from today. Enjoy

  2. Registered User
    hardestgainer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    301
    Answers
    0


    Look really good. I would do the last 2 weeks at 40. IMO.
  3. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by hardestgainer View Post
    Look really good. I would do the last 2 weeks at 40. IMO.
    yeah I will consider that, I will first see how 30mgs treats me and decided from there.

    Starts tomorrow, can't wait
    •   
       

  4. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Update:

    started taking my Liv52 3 days ago, and two servings per day, a little late for a pre-load, but thought it might be helpful, also have started loading b-5 at 8-10grams per day to help fend off any outbreaks.

    Really excited for this cycle, tomorrow I will weigh in before I take my dosage, and report back with my pre-cycle weight.

    Also I have just had my body fat and girth measurements taken as of today, so they are as up to date as they can get, and they were done thoroughly by a lecturer at my university, so as far as accuracy goes, this is as good as it gets for free.

    I will repost the details below:
  5. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Somatotype
    (Heath-Carter) Endomorphy 2.2 Mesomorphy 5.7 Ectomorphy 2.7
    Body Mass Index (BMI) 24.1
    Waist/Hip Ratio (WHR) 0.82
    Sum of 6 skinfolds 58.0
    (Excl. Biceps & Iliac Crest) 8.7 %fat (Yuhasz)
    Sum of 8 skinfolds 74.1 mm
  6. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Body mass 84.2 kg -0.13
    Stretch stature 187 cm
    Sitting height 93.5 cm -1.07
    Triceps sf 8.3 mm -1.75
    Subscapular sf 10.4 mm -1.53
    Biceps sf 4.0 mm -2.18
    Iliac Crest sf 12.1 mm -1.67
    Supraspinale sf 6.1 mm -2.20
    Abdominal sf 11.4 mm -1.93
    Front Thigh sf 12.0 mm -1.93
    Medial Calf sf 9.8 mm -1.52
    Head girth 56.3 mm -3.31
    Neck girth 38.2 mm -0.08
    Arm girth relaxed 35.3 cm 2.25
    Corrected arm girth 32.7 cm 4.03
    Arm girth flexed and tensed 38.7 mm 2.45
    Forearm girth (max. relaxed) 29.0 mm 0.89
    Wrist girth (distal styloid) 15.9 mm -2.61
    Chest girth (mesosternale) 104.8 mm 1.45
    Waist girth (min.) 82.3 mm 0.67
    Gluteal girth (max.) 100.2 mm -0.63
    Thigh girth (1 cm dist. glut. line) 59.5 mm -0.40
    Thigh girth (mid tro-tib lat) 57.3 mm -0.24
    Calf girth (max.) 39.3 mm 0.22
    Corrected calf girth (max.) 36.2 cm 1.39
    Ankle girth (min.) 21.6 cm -1.58
    Acromiale-radiale 25.8 cm -5.11
    Radiale-stylion 29.7 cm 1.76
    Midstylion-dactylion 20.8 cm 0.04
    Iliospinale ht 117.3 cm 2.67
    Trochanterion ht 101.4 cm 1.35
    Trochanterion-tibiale laterale 45.0 cm -0.19
    Tibiale laterale ht 57.1 cm 2.53
    Tibiale mediale-sphyrion tibiale 42.5 cm 0.87
    Biacromial breadth 45.6 cm 1.80
    Biiliocristal breadth 29.0 cm -1.40
    Foot length (ak-pt) 27.3 cm -0.60
    Transverse chest breadth 27.2 cm -1.82
    A-P Chest depth 40.2 cm 13.80
    Humerus breadth (biepicondylar) 7.4 cm 0.73
    Femur breadth (biepicondylar) 10.0 cm -0.87
  7. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    On the post above, the last number of every row, is called a phantom Z value, which is my numbers compared to the average person my weight and height etc.
  8. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Day 1 (10mgs Epidrol and 1 Trisorbagen)
    Taken with food 40 min pre workout.

    Shoulders and Arms:

    Strength:normal/ up slightly
    Bodyweight/Body Comp:normal
    Pumps/Vascularity:Huge
    Endurance:up slightly
    Aggression:normal
    Focus:up
    Libido:normal
    Muscle Density/Hardening:normal
    Overall Energy:up slightly
    Personal Commentary:Well due to how excited I was, some of the results may be placebo. Main thing I noticed was a increase in energy, half way through my workout I still felt eager to do more. May have been placebo. I noticed as well a huge increase in pump, may be due to the increase in water I am having due to being on orals, but every exercise I did, right from the get go, got me pumped! This was one of the most extreme pumps I've had, hope this continues.
  9. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Also will be adding pictures up tonight, so there will be pre cycle pics, as well as adding post cycle pics later.

  10. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Weighed in today, scale said 87.7kg.
  11. Anabolic Innovations Rep
    Board Sponsor
    zbtboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Age
    34
    Posts
    999
    Answers
    0


    Sub'd! Best of luck!
  12. Registered User
    UNCfan1's Avatar
    Stats
    6'4"  240 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    1,949
    Answers
    0


    Just wondering whats the mg per cap of I3C? Looks good best of luck man!
  13. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by UNCfan1 View Post
    Just wondering whats the mg per cap of I3C? Looks good best of luck man!
    200mg per cap I believe
  14. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by zbtboy View Post
    Sub'd! Best of luck!
    Thanks for following Should be good I hope... Just taken my PCS, as it's my off day an will follow with Life Support in a few hours.

    Then bump to 20mgs tomorrow which will be fun.

  15. Registered User
    jonnie's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  244 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    22
    Answers
    0


    sub'd. let's bring it home for the ANZAC's
  16. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by jonnie View Post
    sub'd. let's bring it home for the ANZAC's
    You know it mate! Can't wait to try 20mgs tomorrow and push some big ass weights.

    Today:

    1 dose of PCS in the morning with food.
    1 dose Life Support.
    1 serving Poseidon (got he flush)
    2.5grams of b-5

    So far so good, nothing much to mention other than no DOMS from yesterdays killer workout. No sides.
  17. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Day 2 (20mgs Epidrol and 1 Trisorbagen)
    Taken with food 1hour pre workout.

    Legs and abs:

    Strength:normal/ up slightly
    Bodyweight/Body Comp:normal
    Pumps/Vascularity:Huge
    Endurance:up slightly
    Aggression:normal
    Focus:up
    Libido:normal
    Muscle Density/Hardening:normal
    Overall Energy:up slightly
    Personal Commentary: Great strength today, got my ATG squats up nicely, and always thrashed my calves, got cramps in the higher rep stuff, took 1.5g taurine, might have to up that. Really great pump in the quads, almost painful.Good workout, next one will bump to 30mgs, that should rock!
  18. Registered User
    jonnie's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  244 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    22
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Craigmatthew View Post
    No DOMS from yesterdays killer workout.
    Well clearly you didn't train hard enough then did you
  19. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by jonnie View Post
    Well clearly you didn't train hard enough then did you
    hahha, well I went crazy on them... so who knows!! haha. Next time I'm going to **** them up even more!! haha
  20. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Day 2 of off day (4 Post Cycle Support, 2 scoops Cycle Support)
    Also have been dosing 10mgs b5 per day over 4 doses.

    Not much to mention, libido has been up the past few days, annoyingly so sometimes... and today noticed a alpha male mentality coming in... as well as slight roid rage when I was hungry, in fact my appetite is up somewhat.

    so far so good though, no real sides apart from libido and increased hunger. Which are both welcomed
  21. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Day 3 of off days (4 Post cycle Support, 2 scoops Cycle Support)

    Public holiday here, so gym was closed, much to my annoyance, so have to take today off, and take the 30mgs of Epi tomorrow for chest and back, which will be an epic workout I'm hoping. Will be my first time taking 30, so should be nice, hopefully a brutal pump and some nice strength gains.

    Post Cycle Support has been good on the off days, libido is sky high, like way high, and the alpha male mentality is really on now. i see what people mean when they feel 'on'.

    Calves are in pain from the other days leg workout, hope they have recovered by tomorrow as I'd like to blast them again with chest and back and bring them up to standard while on cycle.

    I am noticing that while taking Cycle Support my stomach becomes a bit runny, if you know what I mean, I have been taking it with small meals.. should I take it with more carbohydrates or what?? I usually mix it in with a protein shake... any advise?

    Otherwise, it's all going to plan so far, no sides to speak of, just increased hunger, slightly angrier, and libido up.
  22. Registered User
    casey2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Age
    28
    Posts
    45
    Answers
    0


    im on board man. ill be running a similar pulse but with propadrol on "on" days. and psarm/formadrol for pct....i think. ive got plenty of time to research so we'll see.

    what all cycles have you run prior? and have you ever run any type of epi?

    keep us all posted and good luck!
  23. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Day 3 (20mgs pre + 10mgs post Epidrol and 2 Trisorbagen)
    Taken with food 1hour pre workout and 1 hour post.

    Chest, Back and Abs

    Strength:Up slightly
    Bodyweight/Body Comp:Leaning out
    Pumps/Vascularity:Huge
    Endurance:Up
    Aggression:Up
    Focus:Normal/slightly up
    Libido:Up
    Muscle Density/Hardening:normal
    Overall Energy:Up
    Personal Commentary: Started with chest, and really didn't notice much of a strength increase, but may have been due to a poor warm up, as the workout went on the strength increases were evident, especially on back, where I was able to set a new PR on seated row and complete 5 sets of it.. which is crazy! Pump was huge, and biceps felt like they were going to pop, forearms were pumped as hell to.
  24. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by casey2 View Post
    im on board man. ill be running a similar pulse but with propadrol on "on" days. and psarm/formadrol for pct....i think. ive got plenty of time to research so we'll see.

    what all cycles have you run prior? and have you ever run any type of epi?

    keep us all posted and good luck!
    Hey there man, thanks for following and showing support
    This is my first real cycle, so I'm learning as I go really, so far so good, but it's only the end of week1.
  25. Banned
    pistonpump's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Age
    30
    Posts
    12,114
    Answers
    0


    i think this cycle was really well planned out. I like it but i must say you might want to leave the last weeks open for bumping of the epi doses. Im very curious on your results turn out.
  26. Registered User
    hman85's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  192 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Age
    29
    Posts
    3,806
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    i think this cycle was really well planned out. I like it but i must say you might want to leave the last weeks open for bumping of the epi doses. Im very curious on your results turn out.
    I am thinking you will need to bmp your doses as well. I am interested to se how the trisorbagen affects the potency and effect. Who knows you might not need to bump dose but probably will. this is a average dose for a regular cycle and low for a pulse. Have a good time with this one!
  27. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    i think this cycle was really well planned out. I like it but i must say you might want to leave the last weeks open for bumping of the epi doses. Im very curious on your results turn out.
    Hey man thanks for the comment, it was a long process of research and writing up the plan a million times getting it right. I agreed on maybe bumping the dosages up, this week I will stay at 30mgs, as I only did 30 once last week, and see how 30 treats me, then week 3 I may bump it to 40mgs and see how my body reacts to it.

    I am still deliberating over how to take my 30mgs... 20 pre and 10 post or the whole 30 pre??? Any comments?
  28. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by hman85 View Post
    I am thinking you will need to bmp your doses as well. I am interested to se how the trisorbagen affects the potency and effect. Who knows you might not need to bump dose but probably will. this is a average dose for a regular cycle and low for a pulse. Have a good time with this one!
    hey there, yes once again agree with you guys, and I am also keen to see how Trisorbagen affects this cycle. Might make the 30mgs pretty effective. Thanks for the comment and support!
  29. Registered User
    hman85's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  192 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Age
    29
    Posts
    3,806
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Craigmatthew View Post
    Hey man thanks for the comment, it was a long process of research and writing up the plan a million times getting it right. I agreed on maybe bumping the dosages up, this week I will stay at 30mgs, as I only did 30 once last week, and see how 30 treats me, then week 3 I may bump it to 40mgs and see how my body reacts to it.

    I am still deliberating over how to take my 30mgs... 20 pre and 10 post or the whole 30 pre??? Any comments?
    Take the larger dose pre.
  30. Banned
    pistonpump's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Age
    30
    Posts
    12,114
    Answers
    0


    what time of your day do you workout?

    taking dosages closer to waking time will have a lesser effect on suppression.
  31. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    what time of your day do you workout?

    taking dosages closer to waking time will have a lesser effect on suppression.
    I work out about and hour and a half after I wake up, so wake, take my stuff, then shower and head to the gym, second dose is then taken about 2 hours later, around lunch time, so it's far away from evening, thus reducing any suppression.
  32. Banned
    pistonpump's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Age
    30
    Posts
    12,114
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Craigmatthew View Post
    I work out about and hour and a half after I wake up, so wake, take my stuff, then shower and head to the gym, second dose is then taken about 2 hours later, around lunch time, so it's far away from evening, thus reducing any suppression.
    right on
  33. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    right on
    Yeah I think I've got this thing sorted :P
    Will try 30mgs again tomorrow for arms and shoulders, should get a nice skin busting pump I hope, and might be able to knock over some PR's.
  34. Registered User
    jonnie's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  244 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    22
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Craigmatthew View Post
    Will try 30mgs again tomorrow for arms and shoulders, should get a nice skin busting pump I hope, and might be able to knock over some PR's.
    Hey mate,
    I'm taking my whole dose (40mg) pre w/o ATM and not noticing any negative sides.
  35. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Day 4 (20mgs pre + 10mgs post Epidrol and 2 Trisorbagen)
    Taken with food 1hour pre workout and 1 hour post.

    Shoulders and Arms

    Strength:Up slightly
    Bodyweight/Body Comp:Leaning out
    Pumps/Vascularity:Huge
    Endurance:Up
    Aggression:Up
    Focus:Normal/slightly up
    Libido:Up
    Muscle Density/Hardening:normal
    Overall Energy:Up
    Personal Commentary: Crazy Bicep pump, even painful, pretty much skin bursting!! Pump was amazing, so happy with that, strength on shoulders and biceps wasn't great, but endurance was up, tricep strength was where I really noticed it! Got a new tricep bar push down PR.
  36. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by jonnie View Post
    Hey mate,
    I'm taking my whole dose (40mg) pre w/o ATM and not noticing any negative sides.
    Yeah I might try 30mgs pre sometime this week and see what happens....
  37. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    quick update: Weighed in today, and scale read 88.9, which is 1.2kg's heavier than last week, which is quite a jump. So that's great news (that's 2.6lbs for you Americans)
  38. Registered User
    jonnie's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  244 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    22
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Craigmatthew View Post
    (that's 2.6lbs for you Americans)
    You need to type it slower too mate
  39. Registered User
    Craigmatthew's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  206 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    6,010
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by jonnie View Post
    You need to type it slower too mate
    haha be careful, they may be watching!
  40. Registered User
    casey2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Age
    28
    Posts
    45
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Craigmatthew View Post
    haha be careful, they may be watching!
    oh...we are. any more slip ups and ill high-jack the thread.
  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. My Epidrol Pulse Log.
    By Graglor in forum Supplement Logs
    Replies: 69
    Last Post: 03-19-2009, 07:13 AM
  2. My first epidrol pulse cycle, need help
    By flexq98 in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 11-12-2008, 02:05 PM
  3. Stack H-Drol ed with Epidrol Pulse
    By abuleh in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 03-21-2008, 08:29 AM
  4. Mr Z's emax/epidrol pulse
    By MrZ in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 07-17-2007, 08:18 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in