[Craigmatthew]

Originally Posted by pistonpump

what time of your day do you workout?

taking dosages closer to waking time will have a lesser effect on suppression.

I work out about and hour and a half after I wake up, so wake, take my stuff, then shower and head to the gym, second dose is then taken about 2 hours later, around lunch time, so it's far away from evening, thus reducing any suppression.

[pistonpump]

Originally Posted by Craigmatthew

I work out about and hour and a half after I wake up, so wake, take my stuff, then shower and head to the gym, second dose is then taken about 2 hours later, around lunch time, so it's far away from evening, thus reducing any suppression.

right on

[Craigmatthew]

Originally Posted by pistonpump

right on

Yeah I think I've got this thing sorted :P
Will try 30mgs again tomorrow for arms and shoulders, should get a nice skin busting pump I hope, and might be able to knock over some PR's.

[jonnie]

Originally Posted by Craigmatthew

Will try 30mgs again tomorrow for arms and shoulders, should get a nice skin busting pump I hope, and might be able to knock over some PR's.

Hey mate,
I'm taking my whole dose (40mg) pre w/o ATM and not noticing any negative sides.

[Craigmatthew]

Day 4 (20mgs pre + 10mgs post Epidrol and 2 Trisorbagen)
Taken with food 1hour pre workout and 1 hour post.

Shoulders and Arms

Strength:Up slightly
Bodyweight/Body Comp:Leaning out
Pumps/Vascularity:Huge
Endurance:Up
Aggression:Up
Focus:Normal/slightly up
Libido:Up
Muscle Density/Hardening:normal
Overall Energy:Up
Personal Commentary: Crazy Bicep pump, even painful, pretty much skin bursting!! Pump was amazing, so happy with that, strength on shoulders and biceps wasn't great, but endurance was up, tricep strength was where I really noticed it! Got a new tricep bar push down PR.

[Craigmatthew]

Originally Posted by jonnie

Hey mate,
I'm taking my whole dose (40mg) pre w/o ATM and not noticing any negative sides.

Yeah I might try 30mgs pre sometime this week and see what happens....

[Craigmatthew]

quick update: Weighed in today, and scale read 88.9, which is 1.2kg's heavier than last week, which is quite a jump. So that's great news (that's 2.6lbs for you Americans)

[jonnie]

Originally Posted by Craigmatthew

(that's 2.6lbs for you Americans)

You need to type it slower too mate

[Craigmatthew]

Originally Posted by jonnie

You need to type it slower too mate

haha be careful, they may be watching!

[casey2]

Originally Posted by Craigmatthew

haha be careful, they may be watching!

oh...we are. any more slip ups and ill high-jack the thread.

[Craigmatthew]

Day 5 (20mgs pre + 10mgs post Epidrol and 2 Trisorbagen)
Taken with food 1hour pre workout and 1 hour post.

Legs and abs

Strength:Up slightly
Bodyweight/Body Comp:Leaning out
Pumps/Vascularity:Huge
Endurance:Up
Aggression:Up
Focus:Up
Libido:Up
Muscle Density/Hardening:normal
Overall Energy:Up
Personal Commentary: Well legs is always a good test of strength, and I think the Epi is starting to kick in now. Recovery is amazing, 30seconds after a set and I'm ready to go, have to make myself chill out, aggression was high as hell today in the gym, tore the squats apart. Abs went really well as well, endurance was great and getting some crazy numbers for crunches, will have to start adding some weight to my crunches again. Still look leaner, but fuller at the same time. Quad pump was unreal, forgot to take my taurine.. so calves got quite pumped/ sore, wasn't to bad, but will pay to remember next time.

Cant wait to weigh myself next week, hoping for another 2 or so pounds with good eating May start taking my 30mgs all pre and see what happens, if no change in strength, might bump to 40mgs per day, either 20/20 split or 30/10.. any ideas on how to split the 40mgs Epi?

[hman85]

I always do the most pre. It helps with suppression.

[jonnie]

I do all mine (40mg) pre.

[Craigmatthew]

Originally Posted by hman85

I always do the most pre. It helps with suppression.

yeah thinking maybe a 30/10 split.... then at least I have a big dose pre and another smaller dose later to keep blood levels for a bit longer.