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    Volcom's Fat Loss while Gaining Strength with RECREATE, DCP, AP/Pslin Log


    I began a fat loss while gaining strength log about 45 days ago. My beginning weight was 230lbs and I slowly dropped down to 219lbs. My fat loss progression was very slow, because it took me a long time to build up my cardio fitness to an effective level and to establish a solid diet mentality discipline, which I have achieved both. My fat loss was slow in progress, however, I did manage to increase my strength quit drastically throughout the entire process.

    For example, this is my flat bench comparison from when I weighed 230lbs to when I weighed 219lbs

    Weighing@230lbs
    Flat Bench
    275lbs x 8 reps
    295lbs x 6 reps
    295lbs x 5 reps

    Weighing@219lbs
    Flat Bench
    275lbs x 10 reps
    295lbs x 8 reps
    315lbs x 5 reps

    I am stronger at 219lbs then I was at 230lbs all across the board, not just flat bench, but my ultimate objective is to drop down to 200-205lbs, while minimally, maintaining my current strength, but with goals and expectations to continually progress upward in strength as I have been.

    From this point on, I will be continuing the same premise and goals of my previous log, to lose fat mass while gaining strength, but with a new supplement base. The long awaited, RECREATE. I will be stacking this product, but my stack will be very simple and undiluted, so there won't be any mystery as to where to trace the results to.

    - Recreate
    - DCP
    - AP/Pslin

    I currently do double sessions of cardio, AM Cardio for 45-60min and PM- Pre workout Cardio for 45-60 min, along with lifting immediately afterwards. On occasion I throw in some HIIT in the mix and my diet is very strict at this point.

    I appreciate the encouragement from everyone in my previous log, especially the Texan Viking who keeps upping the cardio standard.Attachment 20875
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    I'm down, bro .. now which standard should we keep upping this time around ? .. new products, new thread, new drive .. anything's possible !

    Good luck !!
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    Yea im liking the Pslin/ AP combo myself!! Best of Luck!
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    Thanks guys. I start my first dose tomorrow. I hope I don't lose sleep, I'm like a high schooler coming back from Winter Break with a new outfit to show off on the first day back when it comes to trying new supplements.

    I have an early morning study group, then class, then work, so I'm going to have to get up EXTRA early and cardio with the seniors in the morning. I really want to kick off Recreate with my signature 60 min cardio, continue with my day onto my PM cardio and lift. I'm psyched, ready and able.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Thanks guys. I start my first dose tomorrow. I hope I don't lose sleep, I'm like a high schooler coming back from Winter Break with a new outfit to show off on the first day back when it comes to trying new supplements.

    I have an early morning study group, then class, then work, so I'm going to have to get up EXTRA early and cardio with the seniors in the morning. I really want to kick off Recreate with my signature 60 min cardio, continue with my day onto my PM cardio and lift. I'm psyched, ready and able.
    Hahaha, damn straight ! Every morning at 7AM, you've got little but the granny's working out. Let me tell ya, you'll pick up some new techniques watching them do cable work every so often. I've seen the most peculiar of cable/machine movements ! LOL

    (not mocking the elders, I highly support them keeping active, but still)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwegian View Post
    Hahaha, damn straight ! Every morning at 7AM, you've got little but the granny's working out. Let me tell ya, you'll pick up some new techniques watching them do cable work every so often. I've seen the most peculiar of cable/machine movements ! LOL

    (not mocking the elders, I highly support them keeping active, but still)

    I love the 100 rep, literally 0 ROM workouts I see. I call them twitch reps. But more power to them for staying active.
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    Day 1


    AM Cardio
    60 min on stair-climber, fat burn on intensity 7 for 30 min, 6 for 30 min. 808 kcals burned.

    Recreate First Impressions:

    Stim Effect (from a Stim Junkies' POV):
    Recreate's stim effect is very, very low. There's no energy spike sensation. It doesn't make you feel jittery & restless and unable to focus on simple tasks (like hold a cup without shaking) and It doesn't feel like your eyes are being pushed out of your sockets.

    I think 99% of the population would prefer the stim experience I just described, I however, prefer the cracked out jitters of an intense stim. Recreate has a very low, steady & sustained energy feel. The best way I can describe it is that the stim is just enough to prevent you from taking a nap, but nowhere near strong enough to make you feel like you need to be active to temper the storm.

    Workout Energy Effect: Recreate does not have a performance boosting effect (ON ME), such as surges of energy or a sense of increased endurance. Cardio was a struggle this morning because I've become used to high intensity stim's that float my endurance along, but Recreate has a very low stim effect like I mentioned previously.

    Appetite: No joke, I think it induced appetite for me [edit: the 1st day. I suspect it was due to my severe lack of sleep the night before and forcing my body to still perform energy demanding tasks (cardio) and my body said F you and the Recreate, I need to eat]

    Overall: Recreate was touted to be an amazing fat loss agent, not a performance agent, so today's experience has not rendered any opinion of Recreate's efficacy. Again, I think most of the population who try Recreate will appreciate and prefer the stim experience I described. It's very appropriate for daily living, but I'm just weird and prefer the 0-100mph Stims. However, I'd rather lose weight more effectively then get a more effective stim.

    PM Cardio
    25 min on Stair-Stepper, fat burn at intensity 6

    HIIT on a soccer field
    150 yard sprint with 10 sec rest between sprints x 2 intervals
    100 yard sprint with 10 sec rest between sprints x 3 intervals
    50 yard sprint with 10 sec rest between sprints x 4 intervals

    and I'm dead. I wanted to hit at least 45 min on the stair-stepper, but I stopped at 25 min. I didn't stop because I was too gassed to carry on, but quite simply, my lactate boredom threshold was overwhelmed. The gym atmosphere was so dead and I've been on this same machine for hundreds of min in the past two weeks. I knew I wasn't going to lift today because I was far too fatigued. Last night I woke up at 2:15am and didn't go back to sleep until 5:00'ish am and was up for morning cardio by 5:50am (then went to school and work). I was so anxious about not getting a proper rest last night because I had a strong desire to fully utilize my first day of Recreate, and the anxiety from the fear of not getting a decent rest, prevented me from resting, go figure. However, I wasn't going to let myself off the hook with a 25 min cardio session (AND no lifting) even if it was my second session of the day. I thought I'd make up for it by doing a 3 mile run outside (Norwegian style), but the type I fibers in my calves and quads were fatigued and I didn't make it past a block. On the walk of shame back home, I saw an open soccer field and decided to see how my fast twitch fibers were, and they were alright, so I did some HIIT to make up for my lack of desired performance in the gym.

    I'll lift twice tomorrow to make up for today's lack of required lifting intensity. Today was suppose to be back day and you can't skimp on Deads.

    I'm looking forward to great results from Recreate and thanks for the MACHINE T-Shirt USPLabs.
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    Volcom Recipe


    Single Macaroni & Cheese Packets

    1 packet contains 30g carbs

    boil 1 packet in milk. Add enough milk that it submerses all the macaroni, cooking just the macaroni until the milk boils to a very low point. Stirr so the macaroni doesn't stick to the pot.

    Scramble 10 eggs (max), 2 yolks

    Cooking the macaroni with milk instead of water makes it thicker when you add the powdered cheese.

    Dump scrambled eggs into pot with the cooked macaroni, add the packet of cheese, stirr with a "spoon."

    Macaroni & Cheese Eggs. (tastes good with salt & pepper or garlic salt)
    30g carbs
    roughly 40g protein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post

    I thought I'd make up for it by doing a 3 mile run outside (Norwegian style), but the type I fibers in my calves and quads were fatigued and I didn't make it past a block. On the walk of shame back home, I saw an open soccer field and decided to see how my fast twitch fibers were, and they were alright, so I did some HIIT to make up for my lack of desired performance in the gym.
    Bro, sorry to let ya know, i've got an OFF-day today, so you're gonna have to double up on your cardio to keep these boards in equilibrium today (got my ex here, ya see ..)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwegian View Post
    Bro, sorry to let ya know, i've got an OFF-day today, so you're gonna have to double up on your cardio to keep these boards in equilibrium today (got my ex here, ya see ..)
    I'll make up for it to keep the force in balance
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    Day 42 AM Workout


    I got mixed up, it's day 42 of my over-all log (I subconsciously continued my day count from my previous log, but it's only day 2 with Recreate

    Preface: Today was my first time back in 3 or 4 weeks moving socially acceptable (lumbar straining) weight, due to a right lower back strain. Furthermore, I have a right calf strain, and my quads and hams feel blown from yesterdays HIIT


    BIG BACK (My first attempt at a legitimate back workout since I weighed 225lbs. My current weight is 219lbs.

    DeadLifts
    405lbs x 5 reps
    425lbs x 4 reps
    455lbs x 3 reps
    475lbs x 1 rep

    Lat Pull Downs, under-hand grip
    205lbs x 8 reps
    225lbs x 6 reps
    240lbs x 5 reps

    Bent Over Rows, narrow'ish grip (right outside the smooth center of the bar). I would normally do these second, but I wanted to give my lower back a few min break since its my first day back at lumbar weight bearing exercises.
    225lbs x 10 reps
    275lbs x 8 reps
    315lbs x 6 reps
    365lbs x 5 reps

    Hammer High Rows, One Handed
    115lbs x 8 reps
    135lbs x 6 reps
    160lbs x 5 reps

    Lat Pull Down Machine, standard Grip
    260lbs x 8 reps
    290lbs x 6 reps
    305lbs x 6 reps

    Recreate Impressions:
    I really felt the Thermo effect today. It was hard to tell how the thermo effect was yesterday because I always get drenched when I cardio, but not so much when I lift. I do sweat when I lift, but not that profusely. However, today I was drenched throughout my entire workout and I even took extra long rests to cater to my questionable lumbar stability. Good stuff today.

    PM Lift (to be done)

    Post Workout Happenings
    1 dose Anabolic Pump, 1 dose Pslin
    60g Waxy Maize
    75g Whey Protein
    5g BCAA
    5g Leucine

    I took such a large post-workout shake because I have one more workout to do this afternoon, and stacking another workout ontop of a major back day will take a lot out of me.
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    I'll definitely be following this one. This is an impressive recomp you have going here. Very nice strength gains while also dropping the bodyfat. Keep it up man. Also how tall are you if you don't mind me asking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerribleTowel View Post
    I'll definitely be following this one. This is an impressive recomp you have going here. Very nice strength gains while also dropping the bodyfat. Keep it up man. Also how tall are you if you don't mind me asking?
    Thanks for logging in. I'm 5"11.
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    Day 42, PM - second workout


    I got mixed up, it's day 42 of my over-all log (I subconsciously continued my day count from my previous log, but it's only day 2 with Recreate, PM second workout

    I took my second dose of supplements 30 min prior to my second workout. 2 caps Recreate & 2 caps DCP.

    SHOULDERS

    Smith, Shoulder Press
    185lbs x 8 reps
    205lbs x 7 reps
    225lbs x 6 reps

    Hammer, Shoulder Press
    230lbs x 8 reps
    250lbs x 6 reps
    270lbs x 6 reps

    Smith, Upright Rows, very wide grip
    95lbs x 10 reps
    115lbs x 8 reps
    135lbs x 5 reps

    Barbell Front Raises
    65lbs x 8 reps
    85lbs x 6 reps
    105lbs x 6 reps

    Machine Press, Neutral Grip
    210lbs x 8 reps
    220lbs x 6 reps
    240lbs x 6 reps

    Machine, Side Laterals
    110lbs x 8 reps
    150lbs x 6 reps
    170lbs x 6 reps

    The Thermo kicked in pretty impressively for the second consecutive time. I was sweating abnormally profuse for a lifting session, especially for a shoulders day.

    Post Workout Happenings
    1 Anabolic Pump
    30g Waxy Maize
    50g Whey Protein
    5g BCAA
    5g Leucine

    Solid meal being cooked in the oven as we speak.
    8g fat
    5g carbs
    16g protein

    Recreate is suppose to be a new standard of fat burners, therefore, I decided to set a new personal standard of proactivity to fully exploit the effects of Recreate. I want to be 100% affirmed that a lack of results will not be due to a lack of effort and discipline on my part. With that said, I have very positive and high hopes from this very promising new supplement.
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    ROM discussion


    Range of Motion.

    I see atrocities at my gym a lot with people with throw on tons of weight and perform 1/2 ROM lifts. In some cases where someone has a lack of ROM due to injury or lack of flexibility issues, I can understand, but what I witness a lot are really young guys who for the most part, just want to put up quantity lifts and not quality.

    I saw a high school kid "press" 315lbs, but I call them wide grip tricep presses, where the elbow slightly bends and then is extended again, which was suppose to be a rep. Now I understand there are powerlifts who train at a certain ROM (with blocks) with knowledeable and legitimate reasons. I'm just talking about the 1" knee bends in a squat, top of the head shoulder presses and wide grip tricep presses being passed off as a bench press.

    I like to assure all of you I perform full ROM on everything. The bar touches, but not bounces off my chest when I bench. On Db shoulder presses, the inside of the Db touches my shoulder before I extend and on barbell shoulder presses, I touch my clavicle (not literally touch the clavicle cause that could be dangerous, but upper, upper chest area). I realize not a lot of people have that ROM on shoulder presses and I'm definitely not saying anything less then that is insuffice. But if the bar is only going to the top of your head, that's a military, wide grip, over head tricep press. Again, my rant excludes those who are physically limited and is solely geared toward those people who choose to compromise proper & able ROM for big weight to "look" strong.
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    Thumbs up In for this one too!


    I followed your first one so I'll continue to follow you here too bud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Range of Motion.

    I see atrocities at my gym a lot with people with throw on tons of weight and perform 1/2 ROM lifts. In some cases where someone has a lack of ROM due to injury or lack of flexibility issues, I can understand, but what I witness a lot are really young guys who for the most part, just want to put up quantity lifts and not quality.

    I saw a high school kid "press" 315lbs, but I call them wide grip tricep presses, where the elbow slightly bends and then is extended again, which was suppose to be a rep. Now I understand there are powerlifts who train at a certain ROM (with blocks) with knowledeable and legitimate reasons. I'm just talking about the 1" knee bends in a squat, top of the head shoulder presses and wide grip tricep presses being passed off as a bench press.

    I like to assure all of you I perform full ROM on everything. The bar touches, but not bounces off my chest when I bench. On Db shoulder presses, the inside of the Db touches my shoulder before I extend and on barbell shoulder presses, I touch my clavicle (not literally touch the clavicle cause that could be dangerous, but upper, upper chest area). I realize not a lot of people have that ROM on shoulder presses and I'm definitely not saying anything less then that is insuffice. But if the bar is only going to the top of your head, that's a military, wide grip, over head tricep press. Again, my rant excludes those who are physically limited and is solely geared toward those people who choose to compromise proper & able ROM for big weight to "look" strong.
    I will further elaborate on that rant later on .. agree with most everything you say (apart from the DB's touching the shoulders on shoulder presses .. that's a little too low for me ) .. but still, fcukin' $weet that you did two hardcore sessions in one day !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwegian View Post
    I will further elaborate on that rant later on .. agree with most everything you say (apart from the DB's touching the shoulders on shoulder presses .. that's a little too low for me ) .. but still, fcukin' $weet that you did two hardcore sessions in one day !
    Thanks. I realize 90% of the people who lift aren't going to touch their shoulder with the Db, that is low, plus there are mediating variables determining if the Db will touch. If the Db isn't at least an 80lbs sized Db, it's not touching my shoulder.

    What bothers me really are the 2" 315lbs lifts for "reps" then looking around the gym to see who's admiring their beastly wide grip tricep presses. Sometimes I get the tendency to want to walk by and say, "now that your tri's are warmed up lets hit that chest," or I want to yell across the room, "I'm still waiting for rep number one!" Of course I wouldn't really do that, but my inner voice is saying these things when I see it.

    By the way, I had sushi tonight too.... but I had an Anabolic Pump before I did.

    P.S. My lower back is toast. I probably shouldn't have done the bent over rows until next time, but I couldn't resist. I haven't had a legitimate back workout in weeks and today felt like the day. We'll see how I feel tomorrow. I'll be grateful for muscle soreness (it's a badge of honor for job well done), but not for muscle injury pain.
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    for me it is the 4" rom leg presses that drive me bonkers. I do calf raises with more range of motion than some people at the gym have for leg presses
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    Recreate Pro's & Con's.


    Pro: Amazing Thermo Effect. None like it so far.
    Con: If you're a singer of an emo band, your eye liner WILL run.

    Con: Low Stim
    1. no endurance prolonging energy.
    2. no surge of energy that motivates you into the gym on those days when your heart is not in it for some reason.

    Pro: (to low stim)
    1. No Insomnia!
    2. No jitters
    3. No restlessness
    4. No stim headaches
    5. No being stuck in post workout stim purgatory; have you ever had an amazing, body limit pushing workout session, when your cardio intensity could have beat a Kenyan to his breakfast and your lifts would have made Dorian Yates not frown so much (thats all I ever see him do). You get home, your body's spent all it's had and you are in serious need of a nap. You try to nap because your body is physically dead, but the stim effect won't let you. So you lie in bed, maybe for hours, mentally awake, but unable to sleep or do anything. I call this, post workout stim purgatory.
    6. No energy spikes, thus, no energy crashes either.
    7. Supplemental to no insomnia; this allows you to take a dose rather late in the day for those of use who can't hit the gym (or hit the gym again) until the end of the work day.

    Pro: Great Appetitie Suppressant.
    Con: None for me personally. I have a natural appetite of a rhino, so this actually makes me eat like a normal person.

    Pro: Supplemental to thermo effect. Although Recreate lacks an intense stim, it does make you sweat VERY easily. Once I start sweating at the gym, it becomes a pyschological stim for me.

    5 more days until I weigh myself again to measure my progression.


    P.S. My back is feeling great. It is VERY sore, but it seems to be a healthy microtrauma sore, not go see a chiropractor sore. I really took my time with the deads, I think those 4 sets, including 3 warm up sets took me around 40 min to perform and I wasn't walking with the weight so I could rack it and unload the wheels with more convenience, it was all off-the-floor NASCAR style. I use a little 2.5lbs weight and roll the wheels onto it, so I have a little lift, this makes loading and unloading much easier. Whenever I perform heavy deads and make a ruckus, I have a tendency to just look at the floor when I'm done. I feel like I don't want to be one of those guys who finishes a huge llift then looks around the gym to see who's been watching (even though, truthfully, I've been guilty of that on the down-low somtimes). Bottom line, my lower back seems to be okay. I probably won't hit "lower" back for another 6-7 days, but that time will decrease as I feel my lower back stabilizing.
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    Good detail, Volcom! Your making nice progress, too. Keep it up!
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    great log Volcom. I read your one with the link in it before this one. Keep up on your goals. Much respect on your strength.

    how many calories are you taking in per day?
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    Day 43


    I got mixed up, it's day 43 of my over-all log (I subconsciously continued my day count from my previous log, but it's only day 3 with Recreate

    Afternoon Cardio - At the zenith of the sun
    5 mile mountain hike, 1hr 38min

    Before you say to yourself, why did you take 1hr 38 to hike 5 miles? What'd you do, bearwalk the whole thing? No, fact of the matter is, this is a training trail. It's an irrationally steap hike that people come to train on for other moutainous excursions/greater hikes and is also a Fireman's Forrestry training trail.

    Without exaggeration, 20 yards into the hike and the quads and calves start to flair. The upward hike is hell on earth on the cardio-respiratory and quads/calves. The hike down is very easy on the cardio-respiratory, however, you have to take short, chopping steps due to it's steapness so you don't fall, leaning way back. I actually feel greater wear & tear on the qauds and calves during the hike down. Ironically, the hike down actually takes longer then the hike up, because you can afford to move a little quicker on the upward hike due to a more efficient weight displacement.

    Recreate Impression:
    The thermo effect during this hike was out of this world! 5 min into the hike and I was "dripping". My sweat skipped all three phases of persperation and went straight to dripping.

    Phase 1: The Glow, sweat builds up on the skin
    Phase 2: The Streak. The integrity of the water puddles break and sweat starts to streak down the body.
    Phase 3: The Drip. The streaking becomes so voluminous and too heavy to cling to the skin that is starts to drip off your body.

    I went straight to dripping. Amazing thermo effect. Furthermore, I've done this hike many times and based on all my previous experience, all the sweating I do on the climb up starts to dry off on the hike down, however, I continued to drip on the hike down. Good stuff Recreate.
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    Haha I love the steps of perspiration. Sounds like a killer workout too. Keep it up man. You and Norweigan are all the motivation I need. Well actually I don't think I need any, but a little extra never hurts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    great log Volcom. I read your one with the link in it before this one. Keep up on your goals. Much respect on your strength.

    how many calories are you taking in per day?
    I don't know the exact calorie count, but my diet is measured more so in macrounits.

    - Fats are always intentionally minimal
    - Carbs are no/low days vs high days, primarily complex.
    - Proteins are always high and from various sources. Egg Whites, Fish, Chicken, Whey, Steak is a rarity due to cost.

    I over did it with the no carbs one week and my body did not respond well. Instead of protein synthesis I swear my body went into adipose synthesis. Rather then my adipose being oxidized in the mitochondria, I think adipose was created and spit back out into my body. I'm partly kidding, but I was so insanely active that week (I mean irrationally active) and my diet was so ridiculously clean, yet I only lost 0.8lbs. I believe my body likes to have a little more carbs in its system to efficiently assist the fat burn.
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    I did the whole 50 gram carbs per day and found out I respond to higher carbs whereas some people get really big and fat , while cutting.Again, so obvious and so true, every body responds differently. You have to find what works for you.
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    did you go with friends on the hike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Day 43, rest day, didn't happen.

    Afternoon Cardio - At the zenith of the sun
    5 mile mountain hike, 1hr 38min

    Before you say to yourself, why did you take 1hr 38 to hike 5 miles? What'd you do, bearwalk the whole thing? No, fact of the matter is, this is a training trail. It's an irrationally steap hike that people come to train on for other moutainous excursions/greater hikes and is also a Fireman's Forrestry training trail.

    Without exaggeration, 20 yards into the hike and the quads and calves start to flair. The upward hike is hell on earth on the cardio-respiratory and quads/calves. The hike down is very easy on the cardio-respiratory, however, you have to take short, chopping steps due to it's steapness so you don't fall, leaning way back. I actually feel greater wear & tear on the qauds and calves during the hike down. Ironically, the hike down actually takes longer then the hike up, because you can afford to move a little quicker on the upward hike due to a more efficient weight displacement.

    Recreate Impression:
    The thermo effect during this hike was out of this world! 5 min into the hike and I was "dripping". My sweat skipped all three phases of persperation and went straight to dripping.

    Phase 1: The Glow, sweat builds up on the skin
    Phase 2: The Streak. The integrity of the water puddles break and sweat starts to streak down the body.
    Phase 3: The Drip. The streaking becomes so voluminous and too heavy to cling to the skin that is starts to drip off your body.

    I went straight to dripping. Amazing thermo effect. Furthermore, I've done this hike many times and based on all my previous experience, all the sweating I do on the climb up starts to dry off on the hike down, however, I continued to drip on the hike down. Good stuff Recreate.
    Volcom, your sense of detail and description is above and beyond anything I've seen on boards before. Reading your training log/journal is like reading the final edition of a throroughly researched motivational training narrative. You cover every base with a sense for details in which many others would view as irrelevant, when really, it makes for such an interesting and unbelievably motivational log. I know Bolt has my back - as he already mentioned - but you are a motivator ! Time and time again, whether it be in the midst of my cardio or weight-training session, I've come to think of an element out of your log (f.x., your 405 * 7 deadlifts, and your 60 minutes non-stop Stairclimber on Level 9), and it has never failed to make me push myself to where I need to get or to accomplish the goals I set for myself.

    Sounds like you had one helluva mountain hike, and it makes me realize that I miss the mountainous regions outside of Denver where my family lives. Let's be honest here, there is no better place to do cardio than outside in the open, with the freshest of air, and a challenging scenery of obstacle course upon obstabcle course. I find myself running alongside the feeder and highway here in this flat little town, so I do envy your outdoor-situation.

    To conclude this little rant (as partially a response to your comments on my log earlier) I picked up on your advice on doing wind-sprints and different agility exercises on a soccerfield; 100-yard sprints, back-wards running, side-way running, high kicks, butt kicks and so on. I had a 50 minute cardio session upon waking, running 4 miles and doing a variation of those exercises. It's something I will definitely have to sit down with in order to set up an effective program to get added benefits of these types of exercises.

    Keep up the awesome work, this great log, and you'll have many other followers to come !!!
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    Speaking of carbohydrates .. when my body grows accustomed to NO/LOW carbs (~20 grams/day only non-impact carbs - i.e. broccoli or green beans), I guilt trip after endulging in any amount of carbs afterward. Not only that, but it wrecks havoc in my stomach, completely ! Carb-loads don't work out for my stomach and my digestion, that's for sure, so I know where you're coming from ..
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    I also need my carbs. I have tried going low carb and it just doesn't work for me. I'm currently cutting and am currently on a 40P/40C/20F diet and it's been the most successful, smoothest, and effective cut I've ever done. Also I love my carbs, so a diet that involves me eliminating the majority of my carbs is not exactly my cup of tea, because I love my rice and oatmeal.
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    I can live totally without carbs, but if I drop fats too low my hair nails and skin start to noticeably worsen, and my libido drops like a rock. funny how different we all are
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    I'm recomping right now and I cycle carbs and calories from day to day, high protein, low carb, moderate fat. I need the lower carbs to drop the fat (100g's or below) and i up them to 250g's on training days, and weekends are normally 50g's or so. The best thing you can do for fatloss imho is to cycle calories and macro nutrients
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHAPS View Post
    I'm recomping right now and I cycle carbs and calories from day to day, high protein, low carb, moderate fat. I need the lower carbs to drop the fat (100g's or below) and i up them to 250g's on training days, and weekends are normally 50g's or so. The best thing you can do for fatloss imho is to cycle calories and macro nutrients
    If at all possible, I'd love to see a little more detailed outline of the carb cycling method .. @ whichever bodyweight you are at. I personally never gave it an attempt, but now I'm finding myself doing a total of 150 grams complex carbs (80 grams from Cytogainer and 70 grams from Post-workout meal) following my weight training workouts, and no/low carbs on cardio-only days. (excluding my little splurge this past weekend..)
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I can live totally without carbs, but if I drop fats too low my hair nails and skin start to noticeably worsen, and my libido drops like a rock. funny how different we all are
    Libido ? What's libido ?

    hahaha .. it's been a loooong time with no carbs, what can I say ?! fortunately, I've got no girl who's complaining at me, but all I can say is, NON-existant ! (apart from when my ex is around me......)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHAPS View Post
    I'm recomping right now and I cycle carbs and calories from day to day, high protein, low carb, moderate fat. I need the lower carbs to drop the fat (100g's or below) and i up them to 250g's on training days, and weekends are normally 50g's or so. The best thing you can do for fatloss imho is to cycle calories and macro nutrients
    Quote Originally Posted by Norwegian View Post
    If at all possible, I'd love to see a little more detailed outline of the carb cycling method .. @ whichever bodyweight you are at. I personally never gave it an attempt, but now I'm finding myself doing a total of 150 grams complex carbs (80 grams from Cytogainer and 70 grams from Post-workout meal) following my weight training workouts, and no/low carbs on cardio-only days. (excluding my little splurge this past weekend..)
    I would also be interested in seeing an outline of your carb cycling diet if you don't mind typing it up.
  

  
 

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